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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 3 @ 11:37 AM ET
If you go to union Jacks gotta pair those wings with a burger.
- mayorofangrytown


Those wings are legit
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
Try the wings at union jacks its about 5 minutes down the road from Keswick. The blue comet is a cool bar also.
- twotoekenn

keep away from my area
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
Awesome.

Columbus is last in the league and Flyers are actually pushing for a playoff spot and still rebuilding for the future at the same time.

- J35Bacher


Situation probably would not be much different if Hartsy was still in Philly, but I'd bet they'd be closer than 5 points back. If you add in Hartnell's scoring ability (and admittedly you'd have to subtract his propensity for ill-timed, bad penalties, but I think the scoring qutweighs that) I don't think it would be going out on a limb too much to say that maybe they get some additional points out of some of the one goal/OT losses.

It is fun to debate, but realty is what it is. Philly has Umberger. They will have to deal with that as best they can.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 3 @ 11:41 AM ET
Konecny will have to develop physically before he takes on the NHL for a year. Hope it happens quickly!
- YuenglingJagr



Konecny is around the same weight as Gerbe and Desharnais.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 3 @ 11:42 AM ET
Try the wings at union jacks its about 5 minutes down the road from Keswick. The blue comet is a cool bar also.
- twotoekenn


Do they still have the "Talk to the person next to you" sign on the tv?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
Do they still have the "Talk to the person next to you" sign on the tv?
- PhillySportsGuy


i think so yeah
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
keep away from my area
- Crimsoninja


it's my area too. can I still go since we are the only ones that believe?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:44 AM ET
it's my area too. can I still go since we are the only ones that believe?
- funmaster18

-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Feb 3 @ 11:44 AM ET
Provorov joining the rush last night






- PhillySportsGuy



my boy
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 3 @ 11:45 AM ET

- Crimsoninja


well it's your call. I'm going regardless so you can like it or not like it.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Feb 3 @ 11:45 AM ET
it's my area too. can I still go since we are the only ones that believe?
- funmaster18



he's gonna need backup when two ton ken comes to kick his ass
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 3 @ 11:45 AM ET
my boy
- -davies-



Can someone post the hit again?

That makes me smile too
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 3 @ 11:46 AM ET
keep away from my area
- Crimsoninja

You live in Glenside? Get out...
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 3 @ 11:46 AM ET
Konecny is around the same weight as Gerbe and Desharnais.
- J35Bacher


They are shorter...and men
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Feb 3 @ 11:47 AM ET
Here is what I think Hextall was thinking.

A 32 year old power forward who plays a top 6 roll. 5 years left on his deal. What are the chances he continues to produce at a high level? If he does stop to produce, then where does he fit? Doesn't kill penalties. Not a strong defensive player. Not a terrific skater. Has a full NTC so he has say to where he wants to go.

In RJ I might be getting a roll player with 2 less years on his deal. This team isn't ready to compete for another couple years so I can handle a bottom 6 roll player. Hopefully he can chip in some scoring and also allows for young players to get a couple seasons in the AHL. Also lets guys like Schenn, Couturier, Simmonds take on a more prominate roll with the team.

Yes. They haven't got the production they wanted from Umberger. But Hextall was playing the odds.

- J35Bacher


seeded or plain
Tomfan365
Joined: 03.11.2013

Feb 3 @ 11:47 AM ET
It was a flat out bad trade. Horrible. I'd gladly take Hartnell's scoring, levity, grit, leadership, and other intangibles back along with his cap hit and duration.

The signs were there on Umberger. Getting scratched regularly for underperforming on a bad Columbus team? That should have been a huge red flag.

Hartnell was (and still is in Columbus) a productive glue guy. At this juncture, Umberger is a guy you can replace with an AHL call-up. He is a stanp-up guy and the current reality may not be his fault. He was never fast and injuries have taken their toll on him. The reality at this point, however, is that Umberger is an overpaid mucker/grinder. Colin McDonald could come in and do the same thing at a better market value.

- Lexington Flyer


Hartnell has 17G, 18A, 35 P this year but also 85 penalty minutes. With how horrendous our PK has been, those penalty minutes could very well negate any good those goals would do. People always look at production but not other factors like goals against. Which was always my Cooter argument last year, while he wasn't putting up great scoring numbers, he was constantly prevent other teams best scorers from putting the puck in the net. So if Coots scores 15 goals but prevents another 15-20 (which I admit there is no real way to measure that) that really helps the team. Same with Hartnell, if those penalty minutes are all minors, that's 42 power plays for the other team, which at the team's current 78% average, is another 10 goals against the Flyers this year, probably more since another 42 PKs would probably lower our average they way they have been this year.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:48 AM ET
It was a flat out bad trade. Horrible. I'd gladly take Hartnell's scoring, levity, grit, leadership, and other intangibles back along with his cap hit and duration.

The signs were there on Umberger. Getting scratched regularly for underperforming on a bad Columbus team? That should have been a huge red flag.

Hartnell was (and still is in Columbus) a productive glue guy. At this juncture, Umberger is a guy you can replace with an AHL call-up. He is a stanp-up guy and the current reality may not be his fault. He was never fast and injuries have taken their toll on him. The reality at this point, however, is that Umberger is an overpaid mucker/grinder. Colin McDonald could come in and do the same thing at a better market value.

- Lexington Flyer


it certainly has turned out that way, sadly.

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:49 AM ET
You live in Glenside? Get out...
- mayorofangrytown

basically
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:49 AM ET
When the goalie is happy, everyone is happy.
- Scoob


exactly. learn it. love it. live it.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 3 @ 11:50 AM ET
Hartnell has 17G, 18A, 35 P this year but also 85 penalty minutes. With how horrendous our PK has been, those penalty minutes could very well negate any good those goals would do. People always look at production but not other factors like goals against. Which was always my Cooter argument last year, while he wasn't putting up great scoring numbers, he was constantly prevent other teams best scorers from putting the puck in the net. So if Coots scores 15 goals but prevents another 15-20 (which I admit there is no real way to measure that) that really helps the team. Same with Hartnell, if those penalty minutes are all minors, that's 42 power plays for the other team, which at the team's current 78% average, is another 10 goals against the Flyers this year, probably more since another 42 PKs would probably lower our average they way they have been this year.
- Tomfan365


0 goals
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:51 AM ET
it's my area too. can I still go since we are the only ones that believe?
- funmaster18


glenside was my area for 5 years until i moved to the land of enchantment.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 3 @ 11:51 AM ET
basically
- Crimsoninja

I worked in Glenside for 15 yrs before our company moved to Ft Washington. I've been thrown out of every bar in that damn town at least once.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 3 @ 11:52 AM ET
I worked in Glenside for 15 yrs before our company moved to Ft Washington. I've been thrown out of every bar in that damn town at least once.
- mayorofangrytown


there's a mural of you inside the comet. legendary.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Feb 3 @ 11:53 AM ET
keep away from my area
- Crimsoninja


I do now, moved up near qtown 5 years ago
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 3 @ 11:53 AM ET
he's gonna need backup when two ton ken comes to kick his ass
- -davies-


let him try. we will throw lemon pies at him
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