Derek Grant is playing some really good hockey in Stockton. He should be up with the Flames. Time to send Raymond down and bring Grant up.

No poop. He's a bottom pair D man that will want top 4 cash and you guys are not maki g the playoffs. No (frank)i g brainer.
- TheIronSheik

He is top 4 on many teams...including the Oilers

honestly I think you are way over thinking that. IF players were so focused on that, don't you think Russell would rather take his money and live in a city with a lower cost of living that edmonton vs Calgary. No one is picking a team based on Taxes and Cost of living as the deciding factor

NHL players are not hedge fund investments, they want to win and have a role on a team they feel conformable in, any other tax benefits etc are just bonuses for them.
- DDM-Coga

Actually, I don't think I am. Players aren't economists or accountants, but they do have agents, and the Flames GM sure as hell better be advising them of the nuance of signing in different markets and the money they see in their jeans.

Remember when it was reported that Giordano was seeking $9.5M and max term? Everyone seemed so shocked that he signed for $6.75M per season. Maybe it isn't so shocking when you consider that next year, when that new contract kicks in, he will be the fourth highest paid defenceman in the league after tax. Only Shea Webber, Suban and Letang will make more than Gio after the tax man gets his due.

The following are player - gross salary - after tax net salary.

Suban - $9,000,000 - $4,140,000
Webber - $7,8,57,142 - $4,675,000
Suter - $7,538,461 - $3,754,153
Letang - $7,250,000 - $3,871,500
Phaneuf - $7,000,000 - $3,598,000
Doughty - $7,000,000 - $3,290,000
Chara - $6,916,667 - $3,755,750
Giordano -$6,750,000 - $3,820,500
Karlsson - $6,500,000 - $3,341,000

To further the tax factor argument. Prior to the NDP changing the tax structure, the take home for Giordano would have been $4,151,250. Incidentally, this would have been higher take home than the $9M salaried Suban in Montreal.This would have placed him second in the league.

I'm pretty sure there is some relation between Salary and the tax rate in plenty of instances.

He is top 4 on many teams...including the Oilers
- flashfire

no, no he's not, he's a top 4 dman on teams with no other options

no, no he's not, he's a top 4 dman on teams with no other options
- Bigern4MVP

Yup

OK I have seen enough of this Gaudreau-Hall chemistry.

Stajan for Hall straight up.

OK I have seen enough of this Gaudreau-Hall chemistry.

Stajan for Hall straight up.
- The-O-G

Let's get it done

OK I have seen enough of this Gaudreau-Hall chemistry.

Stajan for Hall straight up.
- The-O-G

Nope. Gudreau for Lander and a 4th

Actually, I don't think I am. Players aren't economists or accountants, but they do have agents, and the Flames GM sure as hell better be advising them of the nuance of signing in different markets and the money they see in their jeans.

Remember when it was reported that Giordano was seeking $9.5M and max term? Everyone seemed so shocked that he signed for $6.75M per season. Maybe it isn't so shocking when you consider that next year, when that new contract kicks in, he will be the fourth highest paid defenceman in the league after tax. Only Shea Webber, Suban and Letang will make more than Gio after the tax man gets his due.

The following are player - gross salary - after tax net salary.

Suban - $9,000,000 - $4,140,000
Webber - $7,8,57,142 - $4,675,000
Suter - $7,538,461 - $3,754,153
Letang - $7,250,000 - $3,871,500
Phaneuf - $7,000,000 - $3,598,000
Doughty - $7,000,000 - $3,290,000
Chara - $6,916,667 - $3,755,750
Giordano -$6,750,000 - $3,820,500
Karlsson - $6,500,000 - $3,341,000

To further the tax factor argument. Prior to the NDP changing the tax structure, the take home for Giordano would have been $4,151,250. Incidentally, this would have been higher take home than the $9M salaried Suban in Montreal.This would have placed him second in the league.

I'm pretty sure there is some relation between Salary and the tax rate in plenty of instances.




- InSutterWeTrust

While I'm sure players are very aware of this, agents couldn't care less. They get payed off of gross salary, so net doesn't mean anything to them. A GM can talk to the agent about taxes and the exchange until their ears bleed, it won't make a difference.

It's well known that Russell wants to be in Calgary. He's also good buddies with Glenx, so I'm sure he's not overly keen on FA. I think the best possibility is trade and resign, preferably for 3 or less. Unless we can move one or both of Wideman and Smid, I don't see him getting a new contract though. That's an awful lot tied up in the #4-7 dmen.

While I'm sure players are very aware of this, agents couldn't care less. They get payed off of gross salary, so net doesn't mean anything to them. A GM can talk to the agent about taxes and the exchange until their ears bleed, it won't make a difference.

It's well known that Russell wants to be in Calgary. He's also good buddies with Glenx, so I'm sure he's not overly keen on FA. I think the best possibility is trade and resign, preferably for 3 or less. Unless we can move one or both of Wideman and Smid, I don't see him getting a new contract though. That's an awful lot tied up in the #4-7 dmen.
- dr_soiledpants

Glen X was injury plagued with lower production last year, and a bit long in the tooth. Russel has little to worry about. He'll get paid this summer.

Glen X was injury plagued with lower production last year, and a bit long in the tooth. Russel has little to worry about. He'll get paid this summer.
- TheIronSheik

What about sending Russell to the Rangers if they trade Yandle, maybe Hayes would like to play with JG again?

What about sending Russell to the Rangers if they trade Yandle, maybe Hayes would like to play with JG again?
- DuranDuran

would love to grab Hayes from NYR

What about sending Russell to the Rangers if they trade Yandle, maybe Hayes would like to play with JG again?
- DuranDuran

Better throw in a fair amount.

Trade Russell and decide if you want him this summer.