The only thing I want to hear from Garth is Cappy has been replaced by a real coach or we just traded for a skilled and gritty forward. Anything else he can save the we have enough talent to win speech.
- ses111

This ^^^ and maybe we got a depth dman for the playoff run.

It's not even remotely the same.

It would be nice if someone gave me $20. I do not expect someone to give me $20 and will not get upset when I don't get $20 from someone.

You are questioning why nobody gave you $20 and saying that you believe they owe you $20.

Does that simplify it?

Sure...Snow holding court and addressing the fans about the team would be nice. But I don't expect it to happen, it's not going to happen, and I'm not going to get all bent out of shape about it.
- eichiefs9

Your analogy makes no sense.........when im a paying member of a gym, and they decide to get rid of something, or add something, or raise rates, or whatever, as a paying customer you are notified. Im not upset im not hearing anything from SNow as i know it will be the same story. I think like his managing its bad business to be so distant from the fan base. ESPECIALLY when that fan base isnt really buying many tickets. As management you try and address the paying customers.

The only thing I want to hear from Garth is Cappy has been replaced by a real coach or we just traded for a skilled and gritty forward. Anything else he can save the we have enough talent to win speech.
- ses111

It doenst matter to him.........he doesnt feel Snow should say anything, nor should the paying fans expect it.

Your analogy makes no sense.........when im a paying member of a gym, and they decide to get rid of something, or add something, or raise rates, or whatever, as a paying customer you are notified. Im not upset im not hearing anything from SNow as i know it will be the same story. I think like his managing its bad business to be so distant from the fan base. ESPECIALLY when that fan base isnt really buying many tickets. As management you try and address the paying customers.
- kindlyrick

You are not contractually bound to pay money to the Islanders in return for goods or a service, like you are to a gym. I am sure that when STH's have their rates raised (or lowered) that they are given a reason.

Also, the General Manager position is not a public relations position. It's a function put in place by ownership to manage and grow the organizations on-ice product in the NHL, the minors, and juniors/NCAA/etc...and to manage the cap. This does not require, directly or indirectly, any GM to have any interaction with the fan base. Garth Snow does not owe you, me, or anybody a single word.

Do you really wanna hear the same BS from snow? It will only make your blood boil
- Vukota

I think if he actually answered some of the questions that benning has answered over the last couple years it would be an interesting interview. Granted, I don't expect this to ever happen

You are not contractually bound to pay money to the Islanders in return for goods or a service, like you are to a gym. I am sure that when STH's have their rates raised (or lowered) that they are given a reason.

Also, the General Manager position is not a public relations position. It's a function put in place by ownership to manage and grow the organizations on-ice product in the NHL, the minors, and juniors/NCAA/etc...and to manage the cap. This does not require, directly or indirectly, any GM to have any interaction with the fan base. Garth Snow does not owe you, me, or anybody a single word.
- eichiefs9

When you pay for season tickets, and the salesmen tell you on the phone, the isles are going to improve by adding this and that, and Snow will do this and that, you wanna hear from the GM whats happening. Without the fans, professional sports dont exist. When a company has shareholders which this somewhat emulates, the companies have quarterly meetings, discussing the direction of the firm and or the performance, and its future game plan. The paying fans are the shareholders, and the fact that the management is nowhere to be found, is bad business. PERIOD

That's just not true.

What was the last think Jeff Gorton came out and said?

Have you heard from Ken Holland lately?

Any big news from Jim Nill?
- eichiefs9

When he retired from nascar

When you pay for season tickets, and the salesmen tell you on the phone, the isles are going to improve by adding this and that, and Snow will do this and that, you wanna hear from the GM whats happening. Without the fans, professional sports dont exist. When a company has shareholders which this somewhat emulates, the companies have quarterly meetings, discussing the direction of the firm and or the performance, and its future game plan. The paying fans are the shareholders, and the fact that the management is nowhere to be found, is bad business. PERIOD
- kindlyrick

My question still remains: which other professional sports franchise in NA comes out and has something resembling a shareholder meeting?

Hint: the answer is none

You are demanding something that does not exist.

When he retired from nascar
- mdw7413

My question still remains: which other professional sports franchise in NA comes out and has something resembling a shareholder meeting?

Hint: the answer is none

You are demanding something that does not exist.
- eichiefs9

I think you're missing my point........im not demanding anything. I think its bad business to be in the position the isles have been with such a disconnect to the fan base. Without the fans, they dont have this.......yet there has been zero communication about this teams plans going forward.

I think you're missing my point........im not demanding anything. I think its bad business to be in the position the isles have been with such a disconnect to the fan base. Without the fans, they dont have this.......yet there has been zero communication about this teams plans going forward.
- kindlyrick

You're right I'm sorry..you're not demanding it.

But still...you're saying it's bad business and you're seemingly upset with the Islanders for not doing this. My point is that this type of thing does not exist in sports anywhere. You are implying that this is an Islanders-specific problem and it just simply isn't.

Shareholders meetings aren't a good analogy because your money is not invested in the Islanders. You and I are consumers, not investors. You and I do not stand to lose tangible assets if the Islanders perform poorly.

My question still remains: which other professional sports franchise in NA comes out and has something resembling a shareholder meeting?

Hint: the answer is none

You are demanding something that does not exist.
- eichiefs9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QJZJUf6hwY

The answer is not none.........the answer is, a REAL franchise puts themselves out there and doesnt turtle like Snow.

You're right I'm sorry..you're not demanding it.

But still...you're saying it's bad business and you're seemingly upset with the Islanders for not doing this. My point is that this type of thing does not exist in sports anywhere. You are implying that this is an Islanders-specific problem and it just simply isn't.

Shareholders meetings aren't a good analogy because your money is not invested in the Islanders. You and I are consumers, not investors. You and I do not stand to lose tangible assets if the Islanders perform poorly.
- eichiefs9

my tv is at risk

You're right I'm sorry..you're not demanding it.

But still...you're saying it's bad business and you're seemingly upset with the Islanders for not doing this. My point is that this type of thing does not exist in sports anywhere. You are implying that this is an Islanders-specific problem and it just simply isn't.

Shareholders meetings aren't a good analogy because your money is not invested in the Islanders. You and I are consumers, not investors. You and I do not stand to lose tangible assets if the Islanders perform poorly.
- eichiefs9

See above youtube clip. Im sorry my friend, but it does exist. Its bad business otherwise. Especially for a team looking to lure more fans in the doors.

You're right I'm sorry..you're not demanding it.

But still...you're saying it's bad business and you're seemingly upset with the Islanders for not doing this. My point is that this type of thing does not exist in sports anywhere. You are implying that this is an Islanders-specific problem and it just simply isn't.

Shareholders meetings aren't a good analogy because your money is not invested in the Islanders. You and I are consumers, not investors. You and I do not stand to lose tangible assets if the Islanders perform poorly.
- eichiefs9

My shareholder analogy i said was kind like a sports team. Obviously its not the same thing, but without the fans professional sports do not exist.

my tv is at risk
- Isles_since_6

No way my TV survives another we have enough talent to win speech. He gave those back when the Isles were missing the playoffs.

My shareholder analogy i said was kind like a sports team. Obviously its not the same thing, but without the fans professional sports do not exist.
- kindlyrick

It's not even close to the same thing. Plus no business could exist without it's customers. Garth works for Wang, not the fans.

http://www.nhlpa.com/news...c-spreads-message-of-hope

Great article/video on Hamonic. Can't believe we have to trade him

See above youtube clip. Im sorry my friend, but it does exist. Its bad business otherwise. Especially for a team looking to lure more fans in the doors.
- kindlyrick

Here is your quote

"At least we aren't getting blown out every night"

This ^^^ and maybe we got a depth dman for the playoff run.
- nyisles7

Interest in Polak?

Interest in Polak?
- optimus-reim

Sure for like a 5th rd pick

For the record... Noel and I are reaching out to the team and requesting to see if Garth will come on the podcast

My question still remains: which other professional sports franchise in NA comes out and has something resembling a shareholder meeting?

Hint: the answer is none

You are demanding something that does not exist.
- eichiefs9

Shanny had a presser before xmas. Charielli has been interviewed on TSN as have other GM's, recently. Cashman talks about the Yanks. Alderson about the Mets. Sather hasnt done one in a while but has given statements in the past. Jets/Giants GM's have quotes in the paper, frequently.

I think it's a bit rhetorical, he's not visible or accessable because he has no good news to report. THAT and the fact that the Isles dont get much press outside of the spoon fed info shared with Newsday.

This team has operated as a feifdom since Wang took over. No reason to think it will change until new owners take over.

For the record... Noel and I are reaching out to the team and requesting to see if Garth will come on the podcast
- Dan Petriw

good luck with that

good luck with that
- Vukota

It's great for Noel and Dan to reach out, but I cannot imagine we will get anything new or interesting if he does come on.