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MikeOxbyg
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 26 @ 4:25 PM ET
Not surprised that people are failing to see my point....

KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jan 26 @ 4:29 PM ET
If this was the Kings, the GM would have to look at Horcoff's value on the ice to determine if he wanted to void his contract. Don't act like the classlessness was limited to a player or two. No one got arrested. No one beat their wife and tried to cover it up. Horcoff isn't getting deported. Murray didn't circumvent the salary cap.

When a normal person has an injury like say a back injury, one of the first things an orthopedist will do is prescribe steroids and exercise to speed up the healing process. I'm not sure if that's what happened here. But I do know I have reason to dislike the Kings, and to hate most of the fans who didn't attend games at the Forum.

- yzermaneely

Wow... So all fans that were born in the 90s but never saw a game til let's say the early 2000s and on you hate? All teams gain fans at some point during that teams existence, just saying
67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jan 26 @ 4:32 PM ET
I thought that team medical personnel oversee treatment for injuries. So how does this happen? -something fishy here.
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jan 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
The guy took responsibility for his actions. Players are trying to find things to heal quicker not so much to bulk up although that's sometimes the end results. He sounds like a class guy but maybe Duck fans can speak to that.
- arh777



Well he didn't really take responsibility for his actions! He essentially said he didn't know it was banned. As no less than a union rep he knows what substances are banned and at best turned a blind eye. As a pro athlete making huge money you have a responsibility to your organization , should you elect to go outside for medical advice, to say " these are banned substances and I don't want any treatment containing anything with these substances". Horcoff knows better, and at best turned a blind eye, and is now saying "I didn't know"! How is that taking responsibility?
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jan 26 @ 4:49 PM ET

I didn't know Horcoff was on the Kings.

- KINGS67


I know you won't notice him most nights (except the other night), but Gaborik is...
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 26 @ 4:50 PM ET
Not surprised that people are failing to see my point....


- MikeOxbyg

Your point was stupid which is the point.
MikeOxbyg
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 26 @ 4:58 PM ET
Your point was stupid which is the point.
- Feds91Stammer



My point was ... and I don't expect you to be privy to this, that whenever the slightest thing is written about a Kings player, be it substantiated or unsubstantiated, rumor or legal matter (barring the actual issues and occurrences that we all agree are egregious), the ducks fans come onto our blog and blow it up with slanderous attacks of the nature I outlined, so what I said was true and not stupid,

Now go home and get your eff'n shine box.. you stupid, one cup having tampa fan!

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 26 @ 4:59 PM ET
My point was ... and I don't expect you to be privy to this, that whenever the slightest thing is written about a Kings player, be it substantiated or unsubstantiated, rumor or legal matter (barring the actual issues and occurrences that we all agree are egregious), the ducks fans come onto our blog and blow it up with slanderous attacks of the nature I outlined, so what I said was true and not stupid,

Now go home and get your eff'n shine box.. you stupid, one cup having tampa fan!


- MikeOxbyg

Lol ok guy
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jan 26 @ 5:01 PM ET
My point was ... and I don't expect you to be privy to this, that whenever the slightest thing is written about a Kings player, be it substantiated or unsubstantiated, rumor or legal matter (barring the actual issues and occurrences that we all agree are egregious), the ducks fans come onto our blog and blow it up with slanderous attacks of the nature I outlined, so what I said was true and not stupid,

Now go home and get your eff'n shine box.. you stupid, one cup having tampa fan!


- MikeOxbyg


One cup is better than none.

Even if the first took 45yrs
masterhans
Los Angeles Kings
Location: alta loma, CA
Joined: 02.22.2011

Jan 26 @ 5:01 PM ET
Lol ok guy
- Feds91Stammer

you gonna change your name when stammer bails?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 26 @ 5:04 PM ET
you gonna change your name when stammer bails?
- masterhans

No. I've been banned enough here and the alt account is banned for like 3 years. I will stick with the name as is.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jan 26 @ 5:05 PM ET
No. I've been banned enough here and the alt account is banned for like 3 years. I will stick with the name as is.
- Feds91Stammer

gtrman09
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 07.16.2009

Jan 26 @ 5:07 PM ET
Not surprised that people are failing to see my point....


- MikeOxbyg

Everyone understood your point. The problem is that this couldn't happen to the kings in a vacuum. If a player on the kings tested positive for HGH before the Richards/Carter stuff, before the Stoll arrest, before the Voynov beating, before the Doughty rape allegations, then the response would be exactly what it has been for Horcoff. You are correct that the response would be worse if it were LA, but it's because of all those things kings players have been involved with recently, not because of some skewed view we all have of your team. They did it to themselves with the questionable personnel they've chosen to employ.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 26 @ 5:07 PM ET

- KINGS67

Also I'm not a lightning fan so the chirping is very amusing.
MikeOxbyg
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 26 @ 5:09 PM ET

One cup is better than none.

Even if the first took 45yrs

- KINGS67



I hear your words...

I had to sit through the dark years, may not have waited 45 years, but 26 was a long a$$ time to wait and the first one was unbefreakinlievable
getzlaugh
Anaheim Ducks
Location: WA
Joined: 09.10.2015

Jan 26 @ 5:10 PM ET
Was Stoll busted with cocaine or XTC? Was it both?

Wasn't Stoll also busted in Vegas coming from a party with other Kings players? Who were the other players?

- tredbrta


*Patrick Kane enters stage*
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jan 26 @ 5:10 PM ET
Everyone understood your point. The problem is that this couldn't happen to the kings in a vacuum. If a player on the kings tested positive for HGH before the Richards/Carter stuff, before the Stoll arrest, before the Voynov beating, before the Doughty rape allegations, then the response would be exactly what it has been for Horcoff. You are correct that the response would be worse if it were LA, but it's because of all those things kings players have been involved with recently, not because of some skewed view we all have of your team. They did it to themselves with the questionable personnel they've chosen to employ.
- gtrman09

I could careless what those players do with their money and off time. Those players helped get LA to a championship and that's all I care about... Except for voynov, (frank) that piece of poop
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 26 @ 5:10 PM ET
I thought that team medical personnel oversee treatment for injuries. So how does this happen? -something fishy here.
- 67hawks

A player can always get they're hands something that aids in healing. Weathers its from a shady dealer at gyms. Or from the teams own trainers. Who knows. All players do this stuff. Some are just better at getting away with it. And honestly. Players shouldn't be allowed to do this sort of thing.
MikeOxbyg
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 26 @ 5:11 PM ET
Also I'm not a lightning fan so the chirping is very amusing.
- Feds91Stammer



so you are traipsing around hockeybuzz incognito for some reason?
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 26 @ 5:11 PM ET
I could careless what those players do with their money and off time. Those players helped get LA to a championship and that's all I care about... Except for voynov, (frank) that piece of poop
- KINGS67

That's only because your a chick Kidding of course.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
so you are traipsing around hockeybuzz incognito for some reason?
- MikeOxbyg

Specifically for dippoops like you that try to chirp someone because of the team they cheer for.
MikeOxbyg
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 26 @ 5:15 PM ET
Everyone understood your point. The problem is that this couldn't happen to the kings in a vacuum. If a player on the kings tested positive for HGH before the Richards/Carter stuff, before the Stoll arrest, before the Voynov beating, before the Doughty rape allegations, then the response would be exactly what it has been for Horcoff. You are correct that the response would be worse if it were LA, but it's because of all those things kings players have been involved with recently, not because of some skewed view we all have of your team. They did it to themselves with the questionable personnel they've chosen to employ.
- gtrman09



I would bet vital parts of my anatomy that if there was absolutely zero of the prerequisites you listed, that ducks fans would have reacted exactly the way I outlined it, but that toothpaste is out of the tube so we really can't test the veracity of my assertion. That does not mean that my statement is unsubstantiated though.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jan 26 @ 5:16 PM ET
I hear your words...

I had to sit through the dark years, may not have waited 45 years, but 26 was a long a$$ time to wait and the first one was unbefreakinlievable

- MikeOxbyg


Yeah, I can't imagine being a die hard and waiting 45yrs, it only took me about 17yrs. But it was a painful 17. The highlights for me before the cup was the 3 consective years of 90+pts with Andy Murray at the helm. Along with just going to games at the forum. I thought it was amazing just to get into the playoffs
MikeOxbyg
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jan 26 @ 5:17 PM ET
Specifically for dippoops like you that try to chirp someone because of the team they cheer for.
- Feds91Stammer



well then, mission accomplished tough guy
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jan 26 @ 5:24 PM ET
That's only because your a chick Kidding of course.
- poisondhearts37



But I disagree with anyone who beats the poop out of their spouse. I think women will always get the benefit of the doubt though, unless it's blatantly obvious. But There was no question about what happened in Voynovs case. Now in galchenyks case, I have no idea what the GF has done o just know she was the abuser. Sounds minor, to a point, but still unacceptable
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