I really hope now that Hexy has cleared some of the big contracts and has some space to manuever, he strengthens the bottom six this summer. There can be some really solid bottom six guys picked up without giving out huge dollar lengthy deals.
Could make a big difference next year.

The only expensive one left is really Umberger. You could argue Read, but he's been pretty solid this season, if a bit underproductive.
- Jsaquella

I really hate to say this, but I actually agree with MJL relating to his comments after the Pittsburgh game. The biggest problem with the Flyers is not their bottom 6, it's their top 6.

The Flyers have an excellent 3rd line....with Raffl/Couturier/Schenn. Problem is that's the 2nd line. Until they show more consistency they are fridge top 6. The Flyers desperately need at least 2 top 6 players or ones that can play above their abilities.

Toronto must be looking to trade JVR.
- MJL

I really hope now that Hexy has cleared some of the big contracts and has some space to manuever, he strengthens the bottom six this summer. There can be some really solid bottom six guys picked up without giving out huge dollar lengthy deals.
Could make a big difference next year.
- Marc D

They could even do so without spending a ton of money. Guy like Lee Stempniak is out there, he's consistently productive (between 12-15 goals a year) puts up solid possession numbers despite bouncing around a lot. Current cap hit is $850K

They could even do so without spending a ton of money. Guy like Lee Stempniak is out there, he's consistently productive (between 12-15 goals a year) puts up solid possession numbers despite bouncing around a lot. Current cap hit is $850K
- Jsaquella

I'd love to see the Flyers really make a push for Bodker or even a super risky Grabner, rather Bodker.

I really hate to say this, but I actually agree with MJL relating to his comments after the Pittsburgh game. The biggest problem with the Flyers is not their bottom 6, it's their top 6.

The Flyers have an excellent 3rd line....with Raffl/Couturier/Schenn. Problem is that's the 2nd line. Until they show more consistency they are fridge top 6. The Flyers desperately need at least 2 top 6 players or ones that can play above their abilities.
- Glak18

I agree with that, to an extent. I think if you added a good LW, Couturier & Schenn could give you a really decent two way line that puts up decent offense and provides shut down capabilities.

But if they could go out and land another really consistent offensively productive center then Couturier, Schenn & Raffl and an excellent third line-maybe the best in the NHL

I'd love to see the Flyers really make a push for Bodker or even a super risky Grabner, rather Bodker.
- Glak18

Gabner has the wheels, but he's never been a consistent scorer. Boedker is a guy who intrigues, because he's got flash and speed, and has been stuck in a defense first system. I also think he's the kind of guy that gets a huge deal and fizzles.

I agree with that, to an extent. I think if you added a good LW, Couturier & Schenn could give you a really decent two way line that puts up decent offense and provides shut down capabilities.

But if they could go out and land another really consistent offensively productive center then Couturier, Schenn & Raffl and an excellent third line-maybe the best in the NHL
- Jsaquella

Bodker + Coburn (reasonable deals) and shed as much unwanted as possible, best offseason ever.

Bodker + Coburn (reasonable deals) and shed as much unwanted as possible, best offseason ever.
- Glak18

I'd definitely be Ok with exploring Coburn returning.

EDIT: I'm also not against Boedker. He's a good player. I just don't want to see them overpay

I really hate to say this, but I actually agree with MJL relating to his comments after the Pittsburgh game. The biggest problem with the Flyers is not their bottom 6, it's their top 6.

The Flyers have an excellent 3rd line....with Raffl/Couturier/Schenn. Problem is that's the 2nd line. Until they show more consistency they are fridge top 6. The Flyers desperately need at least 2 top 6 players or ones that can play above their abilities.
- Glak18

Ifyou are talking about that game specifically, speed and the PK were the biggest issues.

You make a good point about those 3 players possibly a 3rd line.

I'd definitely be Ok with exploring Coburn returning.
- Jsaquella

Just saying, anything is possible...

Top 4
MDZ
Coburn
Provorov (I think he makes the team)
Streit (Not moving until next year)

3rd Pair
Ghost
Gudas

7th
Schultz

Callup
Morin

I'm pretty cool with that.

I'd definitely be Ok with exploring Coburn returning.

EDIT: I'm also not against Boedker. He's a good player. I just don't want to see them overpay
- Jsaquella

I wouldn't pay more than 5M per...maybe 5.25M.

I'd definitely be Ok with exploring Coburn returning.

EDIT: I'm also not against Boedker. He's a good player. I just don't want to see them overpay
- Jsaquella

Not a Boedker fan for what's he going to get. His even strength possession and scoring numbers have been meh for most of his career. Most of his points are PP points anyways. He's a big, good skating LW, but he is just lacking with what the Flyers need at evens. Little interest for me.

Coburn. If it's fair, sure. It'd be too real though to see Coby back.

If Coots misses more than another game or 2, chances of playoffs go from slim to none. You just can't win consistently in this league with only one quality center
- BiggE

1-5-1 w/o him in the lineup

he sucker punched a coyotes player in the head after a play
its only a matter of time before he bertuzzi's someone
- 2Real

Just saw it. Got slashed on the wrist, then whacked the guy in the legs and suckered him well after the whistle, and probably would have hit the ref if he wasn't being held back. Someone should have done the same to Kopitar next chance they had.

I wouldn't pay more than 5M per...maybe 5.25M.
- Glak18

Mikkel Boedker :

0.18 Goals per game, 0.30 Assists per game 0.48 Points per game

Brayden Schenn

0.22 Goals Per game, 0.28 Assist per game, 0.5 points per game

Possession numbers are very similar 48.2 Corsi for Boedker, 49.1 for Schenn, CF REL is -1.8 for Boedker, -1.6 for Schenn. Schenn has higher OZ starts 55% to 53%.

I had no idea how similar they were statistically. I was just kind of kicking around for an idea.

Within 2-3 years (some sooner), the bottom six has a chance to include players like Leier, Dove-McFalls, Ghoul, Fazleev, Cousins, NAK, Lindblom, Bardreau, Martel....and then some others yet to be drafted or signed.

That is very very very good depth. A few of those could even be top 6 players with some NHL experience (Lindblom, NAK being the obvious). I made the comparison the other day, a bottom six is like a bullpen. Having an unreliable one can sink a team. Having one that you can roll out 7-8-9 confidently is all the difference.

long time no visit, how have you been?
- Marc D

hanging in there from time to time. how about you?

Mikkel Boedker :

0.18 Goals per game, 0.30 Assists per game 0.48 Points per game

Brayden Schenn

0.22 Goals Per game, 0.28 Assist per game, 0.5 points per game

Possession numbers are very similar 48.2 Corsi for Boedker, 49.1 for Schenn, CF REL is -1.8 for Boedker, -1.6 for Schenn. Schenn has higher OZ starts 55% to 53%.

I had no idea how similar they were statistically. I was just kind of kicking around for an idea.
- Jsaquella

Very interesting to see Schenn as a similar comparison, which I did not know. I personally believe both players have different styles and Bodker speed would be a nice element to add with Giroux or Voracek.

Within 2-3 years (some sooner), the bottom six has a chance to include players like Leier, Dove-McFalls, Ghoul, Fazleev, Cousins, NAK, Lindblom, Bardreau, Martel....and then some others yet to be drafted or signed.

That is very very very good depth. A few of those could even be top 6 players with some NHL experience (Lindblom, NAK being the obvious). I made the comparison the other day, a bottom six is like a bullpen. Having an unreliable one can sink a team. Having one that you can roll out 7-8-9 confidently is all the difference.
- Mononoke

There still is a chance the Flyers opt to sign low cost experience players for those spots in the next 2-3 years, which makes it tougher for young prospects to even fight for those spots.

I have really high hopes for Aube-Kubel and hope the Flyers found a nice gem.

Very interesting to see Schenn as a similar comparison, which I did not know. I personally believe both players have different styles and Bodker speed would be a nice element to add with Giroux or Voracek.
- Glak18

Yeah I had no idea how close they were statistically, and agree that their styles are not similar at all.

Wow Stamkos offered 8 year 68 Million (8.5M) and its public. This will show if money or winning is Stamkos main factor. No way Tampa can afford 10M, especially with their past history of big contracts, but they did win a cup. If Stamkos, or most likely his agent, wants the max well say hello to Toronto and no playoffs for 3-5 years.

Personally Tampa did it right. If Stamkos turns down the offer then trade him and bulk assets for the next 5-10 years combined with their solid roster now.

I'd love to see the Flyers really make a push for Bodker or even a super risky Grabner, rather Bodker.
- Glak18

Why? Like you said on a previous post, players are past their prime at 28-29. Boedker is younger than that, but he's going to cost significant money and for significant term. Stay away from big money long term free agents, and draft and develop. Use free agency a few years from now, when you're in better position to gauge needs at that time.

hanging in there from time to time. how about you?
- stayinthefnnet

Great
Still in law school?

Brady getting hammered.