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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 22 @ 10:52 PM ET
The Lehner trade isn't the problem. A bigger concern is they can't score a freaken goal.
- sippyd

Lots of goal scorers picked in the 1st round.

Larkin is one
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:00 PM ET
Lots of goal scorers picked in the 1st round.

Larkin is one

- sbroads24


And a lot aren't. Hopefully we get one in the draft.
SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Jan 22 @ 11:02 PM ET
Lots of goal scorers picked in the 1st round.

Larkin is one

- sbroads24

So are Eichel, Reinhart, Grigorenko, Girgensons, Ennis, Kassian, Hodgson, Kane and Legwand.

Jeebus.

http://youtu.be/i-nGsl1wfMo
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:02 PM ET
I seriously hate this team sometimes. They are boring, slow, and lose more than they win. Good grief.

One entertaining game every 5 or 6 games doesn't cut it for me.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:04 PM ET
So are Eichel, Reinhart, Grigorenko, Girgensons, Ennis, Kassian, Hodgson, Kane and Legwand.

Jeebus.

http://youtu.be/i-nGsl1wfMo

- SomeoneGerman

I'm so confused what that is supposed to mean.

YES some 1st round picks are busts. Some GM's are also pretty big busts as well
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jan 22 @ 11:05 PM ET
I seriously hate this team sometimes. They are boring, slow, and lose more than they win. Good grief.

One entertaining game every 5 or 6 games doesn't cut it for me.

- sbroads24


Big change from the beginning of the season, that's for sure. Where's that team that was pretty dominating in possession and shots?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:10 PM ET
Big change from the beginning of the season, that's for sure. Where's that team that was pretty dominating in possession and shots?
- stashu

I don't know. When the season started I thought Bylsma had this team ready to play. I thought we would score some goals, play fast, but make a ton of mistakes.

Half the time this looks like a Nolan coached team
SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Jan 22 @ 11:12 PM ET
I'm so confused what that is supposed to mean.

YES some 1st round picks are busts. Some GM's are also pretty big busts as well

- sbroads24


You shouldn't be confused. The confusion results from your insistence that Murrays trades be viewed as negatives.

Otherwise, the simplicity of the post would be obvious. First round picks can be, and often are, overvalued. For every Larkin type scorer hit, there is a Hodgson type scoring bust.

Be honest with yourself, you're not really confused, you're just refusing to let go of the same old argument.
SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Jan 22 @ 11:14 PM ET
I don't know. When the season started I thought Bylsma had this team ready to play. I thought we would score some goals, play fast, but make a ton of mistakes.

Half the time this looks like a Nolan coached team

- sbroads24

The half that got called in for injured starters?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:18 PM ET
You shouldn't be confused. The confusion results from your insistence that Murrays trades be viewed as negatives.

Otherwise, the simplicity of the post would be obvious. First round picks can be, and often are, overvalued. For every Larkin type scorer hit, there is a Hodgson type scoring bust.

Be honest with yourself, you're not really confused, you're just refusing to let go of the same old argument.

- SomeoneGerman

See, I feel that other people are refusing to see what's in front of there face.

It's unfortunately all unfolding as I thought it would. And it sucks because I root for the 29th place team that can't score.

1 year after having the #1 rated prospect pool and we now have Phil Varone and Cal O'Reilly in the lineup.
One more injury away from Matt Ellis my friend.
SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Jan 22 @ 11:22 PM ET
See, I feel that other people are refusing to see what's in front of there face.

It's unfortunately all unfolding as I thought it would. And it sucks because I root for the 29th place team that can't score.

1 year after having the #1 rated prospect pool and we now have Phil Varone and Cal O'Reilly in the lineup.
One more injury away from Matt Ellis my friend.

- sbroads24


I get it - you wanted to be able to call up the wizardry of Joel Armia, right friend?

EDIT: and if you ask me, the goal is to acquire the best NHL roster in the League, not the best prospect pool. They give the cup to the guys playing in the national league, not the kids in the A and juniors.
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:22 PM ET
I want to see the Pre season team that scored all those shorthanded goals. They play for a zero to zero tie and get killed in the end.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:29 PM ET
I get it - you wanted to be able to call up the wizardry of Joel Armia, right friend?
- SomeoneGerman

Sure. But if Joel Armia isn't an option because he's been traded, I'd like to sometimes score some goals because I moved him and others to do so.

Is that too much to ask? Or is bottom 3 in goal scoring for the 3rd consecutive season acceptable to you?
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:30 PM ET
It's been a while since I've looked at the standings, my god has reality caught up with Montreal.
SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Jan 22 @ 11:39 PM ET
Sure. But if Joel Armia isn't an option because he's been traded, I'd like to sometimes score some goals because I moved him and others to do so.

Is that too much to ask? Or is bottom 3 in goal scoring for the 3rd consecutive season acceptable to you?

- sbroads24

So the complaint is that the rebuild isn't happening fast enough? That Murray should have been more aggressive finding scorers for the NHL team this year, and known that Ennis, Moulson, and Girgs would all bottom out?
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:50 PM ET
So the complaint is that the rebuild isn't happening fast enough? That Murray should have been more aggressive finding scorers for the NHL team this year, and known that Ennis, Moulson, and Girgs would all bottom out?
- SomeoneGerman


Ennis has hope. Girgs is still usefull, but Moulson is a disaster.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:52 PM ET
I get it - you wanted to be able to call up the wizardry of Joel Armia, right friend?

EDIT: and if you ask me, the goal is to acquire the best NHL roster in the League, not the best prospect pool. They give the cup to the guys playing in the national league, not the kids in the A and juniors.

- SomeoneGerman


Its too early to call gmtm a dummy, especially when he hasnt made a move that has been completely unjustified. And conversely its too early to call him a genius. Just a chill season.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:58 PM ET
I seriously hate this team sometimes. They are boring, slow, and lose more than they win. Good grief.

One entertaining game every 5 or 6 games doesn't cut it for me.

- sbroads24


It's also in part symptomatic of the league in general regarding style of play, which is wait for the other team to make a mistake and don't make one yourself, which is code for BORING.

Check the most recent blog from the Kings writer talking about the Wild game. The irony there is the Kings heavily defensive and often hardly offensive style of play.

I miss 2005-06 badly!
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jan 22 @ 11:59 PM ET
So the complaint is that the rebuild isn't happening fast enough? That Murray should have been more aggressive finding scorers for the NHL team this year, and known that Ennis, Moulson, and Girgs would all bottom out?
- SomeoneGerman


Well....one of those 3 isn't too tough to predict.

I just looked him up to see how bad it is....168 games as a Sabre, 28 goals.

11 in 44 GP, 13 in 77 GP, and only 4 in 47 GP this year
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 23 @ 12:09 AM ET
So the complaint is that the rebuild isn't happening fast enough? That Murray should have been more aggressive finding scorers for the NHL team this year, and known that Ennis, Moulson, and Girgs would all bottom out?
- SomeoneGerman

The complaint is we are still very bad. A very bad team with gaping holes, and limited assets to fill them. A top draft pick is 1 thing we have going for us.

SomeoneGerman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: greazy moves and plenty of moxie = lotsa choppin but not many chips flyin, NY
Joined: 02.10.2014

Jan 23 @ 12:13 AM ET
The complaint is we are still very bad. A very bad team with gaping holes, and limited assets to fill them. A top draft pick is 1 thing we have going for us.
- sbroads24

I bought Powerball tickets for three weeks running.

It didn't change my life.

Just saying.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jan 23 @ 12:21 AM ET
The complaint is we are still very bad. A very bad team with gaping holes, and limited assets to fill them. A top draft pick is 1 thing we have going for us.
- sbroads24


This was to be expected.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 23 @ 12:43 AM ET
just so you boys know, Z is going back down to AHL to make room for Johnson coming back from Injury. Sucks, but it makes sense. Sounds like this was already a pre determined plan as soon as the call up happened

Roy is not going to break up his top 4 of EJ/beauchemin Barrie/Holden and won't play Zads/Bigras as a 3rd pair with one playing their of hand, sucks but number game for the guy at the moment.

He played really well in his call up, he still needs to clean up his some his decision making with the puck, but I am more than excited for the potential of this guy.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jan 23 @ 12:45 AM ET
just so you boys know, Z is going back down to AHL to make room for Johnson coming back from Injury. Sucks, but it makes sense. Sounds like this was already a pre determined plan as soon as the call up happened

Roy is not going to break up his top 4 of EJ/beauchemin Barrie/Holden and won't play Zads/Bigras as a 3rd pair with one playing their of hand, sucks but number game for the guy at the moment.

He played really well in his call up, he still needs to clean up his some his decision making with the puck, but I am more than excited for the potential of this guy.

- DDM-Coga


Glad he is accepting going down to the AHL for you guys . With some more seasoning that kid is going to be a stud.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jan 23 @ 12:48 AM ET
I bought Powerball tickets for three weeks running.

It didn't change my life.

Just saying.

- SomeoneGerman


That sucks! I feel for you. But on a good note Lehner trade is not looking bad already and he is far from having his whole game back yet. It is almost like Tim Murray might know something . But that just can't be . It must be being done with mirrors.
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