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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 22 @ 10:22 AM ET
I distinctly remember the "Trade Couts, Laughton's the same thing anyway" posts, and


- BulliesPhan87


Laughton certainly seemed like a guy who could step in and be a solid, two-way center at an early age. But it just shows that you can't know that for sure based on performances in Junior and the AHL. The NHL is a huge step up.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 22 @ 10:26 AM ET
The worst I've seen from Coots overall was his second season.
- SuperSchennBros


He struggled in the lockout season as a 19 year old given very hard minutes on a mediocre team, which allowed the Flyers to sign him to a very cheap bridge deal.
EMJAYEL
Joined: 12.29.2015

Jan 22 @ 10:27 AM ET
I like advanced stats too, but too many people on this board can't form an opinion about a game without checking them first.

Very lame.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 22 @ 10:27 AM ET
yeah, well, um

I've got nothing, carry on.

- BulliesPhan87


Yeah well ah, you u got nothing. Your right.
At least I admitted being wrong.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 22 @ 10:29 AM ET
Yeah well ah, you u got nothing. Your right.
At least I admitted being wrong.

- puckhead17

puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 22 @ 10:30 AM ET
Couturier may have been in a point slump, but the reality is as an overall player, Couturier has rarely struggled since he came into the league. He has a big impact on the game, whether he puts up points or not. When he's putting up points, that makes him even more valuable.
- MJL


Don't need to know how valuable he is, I already know.
No problem admitting I was wrong.
I'm not an NHL GM, nor do I pretend to be.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jan 22 @ 10:33 AM ET
Hang over? Just remembered the game results from last night? I feel ya
- coffee junkie


No hang over. Just a very frustrating game.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 22 @ 10:34 AM ET
29 teams in NHL get that bounce that Schenn didn't get. Guarantee it.
- Giroux_Is_God

Amen. I've seen us have that kind of bad luck so many times at the end of games. Defender makes a nice block, puck bounces right to a wide open player with a screaming net and we have OT on our hands.

How about that RJ shot last night? Wait let me re-phrase that, how about that RJ dribbler last night? That had to be the weakest shot I've ever seen, no exaggeration.

And kudos to Mason who played a great game. My dad missed the game and when he got home and saw the final score he asked, bad game by Mason? My answer was simple..if it wasn't for Mason it probably would have been 9-2 after 2.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 22 @ 10:35 AM ET
I like advanced stats too, but too many people on this board can't form an opinion about a game without checking them first.

Very lame.

- EMJAYEL


That one's gonna leave a mark.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jan 22 @ 10:36 AM ET
Incorrect.

Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view
Facts don't do what I want them to
Facts just twist the truth around
Facts are living turned inside out
Facts are getting the best of them
Facts are nothing on the face of things
Facts don't stain the furniture
Facts go out and slam the door
Facts are written all over your face
Facts continue to change their shape

- Scoob


Big, if true.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 10:36 AM ET
We already established that MDZ/Gudas had a rough night.

So L1 lost against Crosby, but they played very well against others.

- Tomahawk



They did fair, overall, at ES, the Flyers top players were all outplayed. Along with the PK, that was the biggest reason why the Flyers lost. Couturier being out was another big factor.
dick_wilderness
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Forests , NJ
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 10:39 AM ET
They did fair, overall, at ES, the Flyers top players were all outplayed. Along with the PK, that was the biggest reason why the Flyers lost. Couturier being out was another big factor.
- MJL


The top line is also the reason they were in the game.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 22 @ 10:41 AM ET
Big, if true.
- hockeylover


Oh, it's true
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 10:43 AM ET
The top line is also the reason they were in the game.
- Richard_wilderness


They did well on the PP, I agree.
dick_wilderness
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Forests , NJ
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 10:45 AM ET
They did well on the PP, I agree.
- MJL



I guess we should give mason some credit.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 22 @ 10:46 AM ET
I guess we should give mason some credit.
- Richard_wilderness

if he would of saved that soft crosby goal we would of won
dick_wilderness
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Forests , NJ
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jan 22 @ 10:46 AM ET
if he would of saved that soft crosby goal we would of won
- BulliesPhan87


What color is the sky in your world?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 10:48 AM ET
I guess we should give mason some credit.
- Richard_wilderness



Absolutely.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 10:48 AM ET
What color is the sky in your world?
- Richard_wilderness



Sarcasm.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 22 @ 10:51 AM ET
What color is the sky in your world?
- Richard_wilderness

Sarc--

leight
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 22 @ 10:56 AM ET
Also, lovin all the "we missed Coots" posts.

Trade him. He's shown me nothing. 3C at best on a contender.

- Giroux_Is_God


The team needed to find a way without him, but cooter is a big part of the team and if he's in the lineup we have a way better shot at winning that game.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 22 @ 10:58 AM ET
I didn't mention anything about the bottom 6. The biggest reason by far that the Flyers lost that game was that the Flyers top players, their top line, and top defense pair in particular, got drastically outplayed by the Pens top players. The top 2 lines were on the ice for both ES goals against. The other main reason was the PK giving up 2 goals.
- MJL

Come sit next to me pal... It's been so long.
monty burns
Location: wake forest, NC
Joined: 10.18.2005

Jan 22 @ 10:58 AM ET
I just want to start by saying I am extremely disappointed this morning.

Now..... I have been an advocate for Mason over the last few years and last nights game was not Masons fault and I'm not about to say Mason has been bad this year. He's been fine, the defense is mediocre at best, but there is no denying his play has taken a step back from last season. Even then, hes been pretty solid. HOWEVER, Neuvirth has been unbelievable this season and if not for him we would be talking about our chances of getting the #1 overall pick. He has literally stolen games and given the Flyers chances to win games we had no business being in. Basically what I'm saying is if Mason played the game against Detroit....we would've lost. No doubt about it. If Neuvy played against Toronto AND Pitt. I think we win. I feel like it's time to let Neuvirth take the majority of the games the rest of the season if this team has any chance at the playoffs. They dont need good goaltending or "ok" or average some nights. They need game changing..... Thats been Neuvirth.

Thx.

- GOA88



+1
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 22 @ 10:59 AM ET
The top lines did indeed get outplayed but I'm ok with it b/c Giroux at least fired back with a goal.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:02 AM ET
I just want to start by saying I am extremely disappointed this morning.

Now..... I have been an advocate for Mason over the last few years and last nights game was not Masons fault and I'm not about to say Mason has been bad this year. He's been fine, the defense is mediocre at best, but there is no denying his play has taken a step back from last season. Even then, hes been pretty solid. HOWEVER, Neuvirth has been unbelievable this season and if not for him we would be talking about our chances of getting the #1 overall pick. He has literally stolen games and given the Flyers chances to win games we had no business being in. Basically what I'm saying is if Mason played the game against Detroit....we would've lost. No doubt about it. If Neuvy played against Toronto AND Pitt. I think we win. I feel like it's time to let Neuvirth take the majority of the games the rest of the season if this team has any chance at the playoffs. They dont need good goaltending or "ok" or average some nights. They need game changing..... Thats been Neuvirth.

Thx.

- GOA88


I don't mind seeing neuvirth get more starts here. Not sure we win those games even with him though. I def expect Michal in goal tomorrow.
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