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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 3:22 PM ET
https://mapleleafshotstov...swinging-centre-breakout/
- Tomahawk



It's all basic stuff, and it's not revolutionary. LA Kings have run center breakouts for years successfully. An article was linked earlier today on how Carolina uses the center of the ice on breakouts. It's stuff that has been in hockey for years and years. If you want to use the center of the ice, need to have defenseman who are good with the puck.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 22 @ 3:23 PM ET
some are calling for 22-30 inches, rivaling the blizzard of 96. we will see
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 22 @ 3:24 PM ET
how bout those Maple Leafs, down there in the FUN corner!
- Marc D

I contend that no region of this chart is what I consider FUN
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jan 22 @ 3:25 PM ET
So you're saying that those team building falling exercises Babcock does, along with his thoughtfully worded birthday and holiday cards, are NOT the reason for the Leafs' new successes? Ehh.....I'm not buying it.
- Mononoke


naw i heard he fluffs his players before the game...
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 22 @ 3:27 PM ET
It's all basic stuff, and it's not revolutionary.
- MJL


Who was doing it before the Wings?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 22 @ 3:31 PM ET
I just read that snow is going to arrive in Central NJ around 8pm this evening.
- PLindbergh31


Thanks, Hurricane Dorkz
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 22 @ 3:32 PM ET
I contend that no region of this chart is what I consider FUN
- BulliesPhan87


I'll invite you to the fun corner soon. Just let me settle in before I start asking for favors
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 22 @ 3:33 PM ET
I contend that no region of this chart is what I consider FUN
- BulliesPhan87

I would have to agree with this

charts = no fun
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 22 @ 3:36 PM ET
Who was doing it before the Wings?
- Tomahawk


I don't know the history of it so I won't go there, but I'll just say Bill Peters was an assistant coach in Detroit for....guess who? He learned from the best.

Whether it's original isn't the point -- the point is that there are still plenty of coaches who think the game old. Berube was a chip out coach who urged up the boards and out. Hakstol urges center of ice exits a lot more.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 22 @ 3:40 PM ET
some are calling for 22-30 inches, rivaling the blizzard of 96. we will see
- funmaster18


I walked across the street to Whole Foods on my lunch break because I wanted to get some produce and promptly walked right back out. JFC it was insane in there
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 22 @ 3:44 PM ET
I walked across the street to Whole Foods on my lunch break because I wanted to get some produce and promptly walked right back out. JFC it was insane in there
- nastyflyergirl


Roads will be impassable for 24 hours and everyone feels the need to stock up on as much as possible
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 22 @ 3:47 PM ET
Laughton went 0-10 on faceoffs tonight
- PVL29

From captaining the Canadian World Juniors to this. Bust.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 22 @ 3:49 PM ET
Roads will be impassable for 24 hours and everyone feels the need to stock up on as much as possible
- funmaster18


Remember the good old days where you'd ride your wagon into town to buy and sell goods once every month or two? Man, I miss those times. (frank) convenience.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 22 @ 3:49 PM ET
Islanders are in Ottawa tonight, I would think it could be an issue for them getting back into NY late this evening.
- PLindbergh31

I have a feeling all NHL/NBA games in the NY/Philly/DC corridor scheduled for Saturday are going to be postponed
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 22 @ 3:50 PM ET
Roads will be impassable for 24 hours and everyone feels the need to stock up on as much as possible
- funmaster18

I only have 4 bottles of scotch, I hope that's enough.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 22 @ 3:51 PM ET
((Giroux) OR (White)) != Elite
- johndewar


Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 22 @ 3:52 PM ET
I only have 4 bottles of scotch, I hope that's enough.
- BiggE


IF the Flyers play tomorrow night...

That's going to be a nooooo
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 22 @ 3:53 PM ET
“There’s room in the game for analytics,” Peters said. “Are you ever going to base your lineup solely on the data? I don’t think so. But it provokes good thought and conversation.”

“We are playing well right now,” Pesce added. “We’re in the playoff hunt, and we’ve got a good Corsi. I guess the two relate to each other.”



Corsi is a result, not a process; it's a byproduct of a multitude of things. It's a red flag or a thumbs up, not an explanation. The other stats are what help explain along with the eye. Babcock goes to the Leafs and their star players have their possession stats SOAR using a worse roster. Babcock isn't a magician (he kinda is actually, but no spells or dragons are involved); Babcock knows good hockey and runs a phenomenal system. Good hockey by the eye = good Corsi.

- Mononoke


No way a dragon gets any where near the dumpster fire that is the Laffs.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 22 @ 3:55 PM ET
I only have 4 bottles of scotch, I hope that's enough.
- BiggE


Single malt or blend?

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 22 @ 3:56 PM ET
I walked across the street to Whole Foods on my lunch break because I wanted to get some produce and promptly walked right back out. JFC it was insane in there
- nastyflyergirl


I submit that if at any point you don't have enough food and supplies in your house to last you a solid 5 days you're doing it wrong.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 22 @ 4:02 PM ET
I have a feeling all NHL/NBA games in the NY/Philly/DC corridor scheduled for Saturday are going to be postponed
- BiggE


Wouldn't it be easier if the Sixers just forfeited?
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jan 22 @ 4:05 PM ET
I have a feeling all NHL/NBA games in the NY/Philly/DC corridor scheduled for Saturday are going to be postponed
- BiggE

what about eagles?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 22 @ 4:09 PM ET
Wouldn't it be easier if the Sixers just forfeited?
- PLindbergh31


Look out, the Sixers have gone 5-6-2 (OT losses don't count as anything, I know) in their last 13 games. Watch: they'll win themselves out of Simmons
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 22 @ 4:17 PM ET
Who was doing it before the Wings?
- Tomahawk


Everybody! A center breakout is not exactly new territory. There is nothing that any NHL coach today, employs system wise that is proprietary, or that hasn't been learned from other coaches, and leagues such as the Europeans.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jan 22 @ 4:19 PM ET
eklund says Gagner is going to get traded.
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