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Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jan 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
It would be as simple as. "Kane, Do you have proof that you left LA with the team after the game?"

Yes - lawsuit over
No - Oh SH*****

- ImThatGuy

And the Lawyer still dings you big time . Fighting a frivolous lawsuit right now with a patent troll . And the patents he owns are not used in any way in my product . We have our own technology . But he assumed since we make amplifiers we must be using the old technology he bought . Still going to cost me between 50 and 100 grand just to disprove . All this clown does is sue people . He has 3 LLC's he does it under.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jan 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
Reinhart - .375 PPG
Drouin - .45 ppg

Has Reinhart also failed to score at this level?

- ImThatGuy


Well score and get points are different I think is what he's trying to say. Reinhart has 12 goals in 56, Drouin 9 in 89.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 21 @ 4:03 PM ET
9 goals in 89 games with pp time. Yup hes failed to score. he got helpers on a high scoring team. Most people call them Padded stats. Ive never been big on him. People gushed over him dangling scrubs in juniors, doing things that wont work in nhl or even ahl hockey but outside of the hot dogging hes got some real talent. girgs for drouin is fair for what were looking for (top end scoring potential) and gives us versatility come future trades (ennis) and the draft.
- joshs

Ryan Johansen had 14 goals over his first 107 games
Joe Thornton had 3 goals over his first 55 games
Jakub Voracek had 9 goals over his first 80 games
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 21 @ 4:04 PM ET
Ryan Johansen had 14 goals over his first 107 games
Joe Thornton had 3 goals over his first 55 games
Jakub Voracek had 9 goals over his first 80 games

- sbroads24


"Padded stats"
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 21 @ 4:05 PM ET
I was all over him for the crap this summer, and as far as I know the alleged victim never rescinded her story that it happened...so I don't feel any differently about that...but I agree that this story seems too awkwardly timed. Why wouldn't someone come out with it around the time he was in the news rather than months later.
- stashu


In regards to this, someone that I know is friends with the lawyer of the victim's friend that was at the house when the "incident" occurred. From what I was told, the friend retained a lawyer of her own because the victim wanted her to say something that never happened, did.

Just a little nugget of info I found out recently.
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jan 21 @ 4:08 PM ET
Ryan Johansen had 14 goals over his first 107 games
Joe Thornton had 3 goals over his first 55 games
Jakub Voracek had 9 goals over his first 80 games

- sbroads24



So you know for sure Drouin is going to be a huge success. Can I borrow your crystal ball for a day to play the market? If a deal is reasonable - sure go for it . No overpaying please. and please gather as much information as possible before hand . And take all emotion out of decision.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 21 @ 4:10 PM ET
So you know for sure Drouin is going to be a huge success. Can I borrow your crystal ball for a day to play the market? If a deal is reasonable - sure go for it . No overpaying please. and please gather as much information as possible before hand . And take all emotion out of decision.
- Maximum Signal

Yes, I do know for sure. And that is exactly what I have said

Jonathon Drouin is a superstar of epic proportions, and I would give Eichel, Reinhart and ADD A 1ST TO IT
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jan 21 @ 4:11 PM ET
You can counter with he's also been on the 4th line some of those games. I'd trade for him.
- Zschalberg


I hate this argument. how do you think he got on the 4th line. Reinhart had games on our 4th line too this season. He played himself out of it. Still i offer the trade for him.
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 21 @ 4:13 PM ET
Yes, I do know for sure. And that is exactly what I have said

Jonathon Drouin is a superstar of epic proportions, and I would give Eichel, Reinhart and ADD A 1ST TO IT

- sbroads24


about par for the course.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jan 21 @ 4:14 PM ET
Yes, I do know for sure. And that is exactly what I have said

Jonathon Drouin is a superstar of epic proportions, and I would give Eichel, Reinhart and ADD A 1ST TO IT

- sbroads24


Huh?
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 21 @ 4:14 PM ET
It is funny to me how some in our fan base fall in love and covet other teams prospects. Can't have all of them folks . And certainly not willing to overpay like some for them. He is a good player. If it what Tim Murray envisions in what he is putting together. I will leave it to the folks that are paid by Mr Pegula to decide. I just don't want to overpay and empty the cupboards.
- Maximum Signal




Why is that funny? Drouin is a highly regarded prospect that has become available. Its doesn't happen everyday.
SabresPanacea
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.16.2014

Jan 21 @ 4:16 PM ET
The crystal ball thing was old and overplayed years ago. Can you please try to come up with something else?
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 21 @ 4:16 PM ET
Turning the corner, I like what I see the past month!

Thoughts/Opinions:

- Drouin for Ennis (Girgs)/(Pysyk)Brendan Guhle & 2nd
- Foligno/Larsson - playing much better
- BoGo playing w/ Risto
- 90
- 15/23 future looks bright
- coaching is making a difference

- Irish 14

I was going to lost about a week ago. Pysyk, girgensons and a 2nd for drouin and DeAngelo.

See if it gets the tires rolling. And I would be all for them trading their first pick. If they could wait until the draft so they could announce the trade in Buffalo.
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 21 @ 4:17 PM ET
Why is that funny? Drouin is a highly regarded prospect that has become available. Its doesn't happen everyday.
- MCGUIZZY


Grass is always greener on the other side. To much emotion . TMGM will make an informed decision hopefully and not an emotional one as most in here would do. I just don't think we are in the position to overpay again. And that seems what Yzerman is looking for.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jan 21 @ 4:18 PM ET
Ryan Johansen had 14 goals over his first 107 games
Joe Thornton had 3 goals over his first 55 games
Jakub Voracek had 9 goals over his first 80 games

- sbroads24


Yeah and none of them demanded a trade at that point.
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jan 21 @ 4:19 PM ET
The crystal ball thing was old and overplayed years ago. Can you please try to come up with something else?
- SabresPanacea


Whatever you say oh great one.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jan 21 @ 4:19 PM ET
So you know for sure Drouin is going to be a huge success. Can I borrow your crystal ball for a day to play the market? If a deal is reasonable - sure go for it . No overpaying please. and please gather as much information as possible before hand . And take all emotion out of decision.
- Maximum Signal

No and that's not what he's saying. He's saying that 9 goals in 89 games doesn't mean he's worthless just like 40 points in 89 games doesn't make him worth everything.

Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jan 21 @ 4:20 PM ET
Grass is always greener on the other side. To much emotion . TMGM will make an informed decision hopefully and not an emotional one as most in here would do. I just don't think we are in the position to overpay again. And that seems what Yzerman is looking for.
- Maximum Signal

Why are you trying to be a Richard with each post? No one is freaking out over the kid, we're having a discussion about his worth. No one here is trying to sell the farm, the highest bid I saw was Ennis, Pysyk, 2nd and that was quickly dismissed as too high for most. The average is Ennis + a 2nd.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 21 @ 4:21 PM ET
Grass is always greener on the other side. To much emotion . TMGM will make an informed decision hopefully and not an emotional one as most in here would do. I just don't think we are in the position to overpay again. And that seems what Yzerman is looking for.
- Maximum Signal




What are you talking about? haha too much emotion? from who? Its a high end prospect that is on the trade market. Why wouldnt people be interested?


Remember when you were screaming and freaking out on everyone that suggested Myers would be traded? THAT was too much emotion
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 21 @ 4:22 PM ET
No and that's not what he's saying. He's saying that 9 goals in 89 games doesn't mean he's worthless just like 40 points in 89 games doesn't make him worth everything.
- Zschalberg


My point is I am not willing to overpay and how do we know that Drouin is the type of player TMGM envisions in what he is putting together ,but he never reads that far.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jan 21 @ 4:24 PM ET
My point is I am not willing to overpay and how do we know that Drouin is the type of player TMGM envisions in what he is putting together ,but he never reads that far.
- Maximum Signal


But no one is saying overpay. The entire discussion is, What would he cost? Do we want to pay that cost? Do we think he's gone up or down in value? Would you want him on the team?

No one is disagreeing with what you want yet you keep talking down to their posts for no reason
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
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Jan 21 @ 4:25 PM ET
What are you talking about? haha too much emotion? from who? Its a high end prospect that is on the trade market. Why wouldnt people be interested?
- MCGUIZZY


You can't have everyone . And we can't afford to overpay which is what Yzerman is looking for . And I want our folks to have as much information as possible before making the move . Is that hard to understand? Being saying the same thing without bad mouthing the player. You must remove the emotion of making a trade for the sake of making a trade..
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jan 21 @ 4:26 PM ET
What are you talking about? haha too much emotion? from who? Its a high end prospect that is on the trade market. Why wouldnt people be interested?


Remember when you were screaming and freaking out on everyone that suggested Myers would be traded? THAT was too much emotion

- MCGUIZZY


I thought this discussion was pretty tame. Good points and counter-points
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 21 @ 4:27 PM ET
But no one is saying overpay. The entire discussion is, What would he cost? Do we want to pay that cost? Do we think he's gone up or down in value? Would you want him on the team?

No one is disagreeing with what you want yet you keep talking down to their posts for no reason

- Zschalberg


All sorts of names have been thrown out there . Irish suggested 3 to 4 players plus a pick. Trying to bring stable thinking into the equation.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 21 @ 4:29 PM ET
I'm going to come right out and say that there's always been something about Drouin that's rubbed me the wrong way. I can't pinpoint what it was exactly that sparked it, but it's something I haven't been able to shake.

Recent events have certainly not helped to ease that feeling.

I could be completely off base about him, but I just do not like the idea of him here. At all.
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