So what you're saying is Moulson for JT works then? Two washed up over the hill vets swap for a change of scenery?
- RhinoFan

clearly they're the same.

are you expecting Moulson to be better as time goes on?

This trade offer cannot be serious right? Even Milbury would not have made this deal as Islander GM.
- ses111

Boggles the mind. Initially I thought he was joking but than it didnt stop. I guess on a thread where Yakupov is perceived as a great left handed defenseman and players like Moulson and Franson are of equal value to 24 yr old centers on pace for 35 goals anything is possible.

Boggles the mind. Initially I thought he was joking but than it didnt stop. I guess on a thread where Yakupov is perceived as a great left handed defenseman and players like Moulson and Franson are of equal value to 24 yr old centers on pace for 35 goals anything is possible.
- Cptmjl

it's almost like sabres fans think anyone would deal a 1st round pick for a goaltender that posts below average NHL stats. Oh wait. That did happen.

i was reading this article and thinking, man this is spot on. Moulson has poop the bed and sucks this year. good write up.


then he proposes a trade.....wtf? "Hey everyone, this guy is terrible, has 3 years left, a no trade clause, and is over the age of 30. We could get a haul for him"

why would anyone trade anything to get moulson at this point? he can barely stay in the lineup of the 28th place team. He is on pace for 8 goals, as you said. You aren't getting a guy who already has 18 for him.

And to all of those saying "well we could trade Ennis too" -- you are morons. THe reason everyone wants to trade ennis is because he isn't good enough and you are realizing it now. He is on ok to below average complimentary player, that can't stay off the injured list. just because he was the best player here for the last 2 years, doesn't make him a good player.

i was reading this article and thinking, man this is spot on. Moulson has poop the bed and sucks this year. good write up.


then he proposes a trade.....wtf? "Hey everyone, this guy is terrible, has 3 years left, a no trade clause, and is over the age of 30. We could get a haul for him"

why would anyone trade anything to get moulson at this point? he can barely stay in the lineup of the 28th place team. He is on pace for 8 goals, as you said. You aren't getting a guy who already has 18 for him.

And to all of those saying "well we could trade Ennis too" -- you are morons. THe reason everyone wants to trade ennis is because he isn't good enough and you are realizing it now. He is on ok to below average complimentary player, that can't stay off the injured list. just because he was the best player here for the last 2 years, doesn't make him a good player.
- mehetmet

Best post on this thread

Honestly? No. I doubt anyone would trade for Moulson with the horrid offense he's put up since returning to blue and gold. Do I think teams would want him? Yes, but they would wanna buy low and for sure no one is gonna pony up a major piece of any NHL ready starter on their current roster. Maybe they do get involved in a NYI-EDM-BUF three way trade yet they'd have to give some serious pieces to get anything of value. Maybe they move Ennis, Franson, Moulson and maybe even more just to get a player like Yakupov when all is said and done

Again I pick Yakupov because GMTM has said many times he's looking for LHD
- Acup2buff

I'm still lost as to why we keep throwing Ennis's name out there as trade bait?

We all understand he has zero value at the moment, right? He'll bounce back (always has thus far), and if we want to trade him, that's when you do it when his value is highest.............not lowest

If I was Murray I'd do the following...

Trade Ennis and Gorges for Rychel+.....realize you're trading when his value is lowest, right?

Trade Moulson+ salary held, Franson and a 3rd rounder this season for Nelson at the draft.......not sure why we trade Franson, I've like his play

Sign Hamhuis to a 2-3 year contract........meh

Sign Yandle to a 3-4 year contract........trying to do too much here

Trade McGinn at the deadline then bring him back in the summer...I would only trade McGinn if it's for a 1st and he wants too much to resign, focus should be to resign at a reasonable cost.

What do you guys think doable?
- Jammerz04

clearly they're the same.

are you expecting Moulson to be better as time goes on?
- Isles_since_6

Honestly, joking aside. yeah i think Mouls could bounce back. Even you Islanders guys say he's a complementary player. He doesn't stir the pot, he taste tests...He needs to be parked in front of the net with a pure play maker setting him up (like Tyler Ennis). However, Ennis has been hurt almost the entire year, Girgensons is hurt as well (the other guy he played with last year), Bylsma has him playing a perimeter game and he's gotten slower. It defintely isn't going in the right direction, but I have faith he won't be as bad as he is right now towards the end of this year. I've actually liked his hustle as of late, he's starting to get those boots, booting.

Honestly, joking aside. yeah i think Mouls could bounce back. Even you Islanders guys say he's a complementary player. He doesn't stir the pot, he taste tests...He needs to be parked in front of the net with a pure play maker setting him up (like Tyler Ennis). However, Ennis has been hurt almost the entire year, Girgensons is hurt as well (the other guy he played with last year), Bylsma has him playing a perimeter game and he's gotten slower. It defintely isn't going in the right direction, but I have faith he won't be as bad as he is right now towards the end of this year. I've actually liked his hustle as of late, he's starting to get those boots, booting.
- RhinoFan

*not to sound too negative, but...*
The reason he has to be parked in front of the net is because he’s too slow to go into the corner to get the puck and then get back to the net. So unless he has a couple of linemates capable of doing all the heavy lifting, he’s essentially useless. Not only that, his lack of foot speed means he’s a liability playing defense and when the games ramp up he’s not able to handle the increased physical play.

There’s a reason he won’t ever approach the goal totals he had with the Isles again, and as he’s aging he’s getting slower. Unless you want a top six winger scoring about 8-10 goals a year, he’s a bottom six guy now, but he adds nothing you’d want in a bottom six player (poor checker, poor skater, poor physical play)

He’s a one trick pony who needs someone to do all the work for him, that’s why we weren’t upset when he was traded. The first playoff series we had against Pittsburgh exposed him badly, and his playoff run in minny highlighted those weaknesses again.

Right now you don’t need the cap space but as soon as you do, he’s a buyout. No one else is going to want him with term left on that contract.

*not to sound too negative, but...*
The reason he has to be parked in front of the net is because he’s too slow to go into the corner to get the puck and then get back to the net. So unless he has a couple of linemates capable of doing all the heavy lifting, he’s essentially useless. Not only that, his lack of foot speed means he’s a liability playing defense and when the games ramp up he’s not able to handle the increased physical play.

There’s a reason he won’t ever approach the goal totals he had with the Isles again, and as he’s aging he’s getting slower. Unless you want a top six winger scoring about 8-10 goals a year, he’s a bottom six guy now, but he adds nothing you’d want in a bottom six player (poor checker, poor skater, poor physical play)

He’s a one trick pony who needs someone to do all the work for him, that’s why we weren’t upset when he was traded. The first playoff series we had against Pittsburgh exposed him badly, and his playoff run in minny highlighted those weaknesses again.

Right now you don’t need the cap space but as soon as you do, he’s a buyout. No one else is going to want him with term left on that contract.
- Isles_since_6

JT has trouble playing defense as it is without Moulson being his linemate again. Isles need players that can handle a physical playoffs series again a team like the Caps and add some skill.

*not to sound too negative, but...*
The reason he has to be parked in front of the net is because he’s too slow to go into the corner to get the puck and then get back to the net. So unless he has a couple of linemates capable of doing all the heavy lifting, he’s essentially useless. Not only that, his lack of foot speed means he’s a liability playing defense and when the games ramp up he’s not able to handle the increased physical play.

There’s a reason he won’t ever approach the goal totals he had with the Isles again, and as he’s aging he’s getting slower. Unless you want a top six winger scoring about 8-10 goals a year, he’s a bottom six guy now, but he adds nothing you’d want in a bottom six player (poor checker, poor skater, poor physical play)

He’s a one trick pony who needs someone to do all the work for him, that’s why we weren’t upset when he was traded. The first playoff series we had against Pittsburgh exposed him badly, and his playoff run in minny highlighted those weaknesses again.

Right now you don’t need the cap space but as soon as you do, he’s a buyout. No one else is going to want him with term left on that contract.
- Isles_since_6

agree, i thought he would still score with better centers, he looks cooked though. i think if hes not in your top 6, hes in the press box. too bad the buyout would be so expensive. about $900,000 against the cap for 6 years if we did it after this season. there should be a clause in the cba that allows for cap correction if the canadian dollar drops through the floor.

agree, i thought he would still score with better centers, he looks cooked though. i think if hes not in your top 6, hes in the press box. too bad the buyout would be so expensive. about $900,000 against the cap for 6 years if we did it after this season. there should be a clause in the cba that allows for cap correction if the canadian dollar drops through the floor.
- rover16

I believe this summer the cap may actually go down, or stay the same. I can't see it increasing with the cdn dollar falling so hard.

Guy you got to be calm.

I'm not screaming at you right?

Taker down a notch bud.

Also lets not overrate players. Brock Nelson could be had for that package add maybe a middle level prospect or another pick. And no you guys didn't get rid of him because he had negative value. You got rid of him because you needed salary and goals going to Buffalo in the Vanek trade. Also Franson's better then most of your D group outside of Hamonic, Leddy and Boychuck. Hamonic is as good as gone. That leaves Leddy and Boychuck. You guys won't get many free agent bites with the whole Brooklyn game day travel for home games.
- Jammerz04

i was reading this article and thinking, man this is spot on. Moulson has poop the bed and sucks this year. good write up.


then he proposes a trade.....wtf? "Hey everyone, this guy is terrible, has 3 years left, a no trade clause, and is over the age of 30. We could get a haul for him"

why would anyone trade anything to get moulson at this point? he can barely stay in the lineup of the 28th place team. He is on pace for 8 goals, as you said. You aren't getting a guy who already has 18 for him.

And to all of those saying "well we could trade Ennis too" -- you are morons. THe reason everyone wants to trade ennis is because he isn't good enough and you are realizing it now. He is on ok to below average complimentary player, that can't stay off the injured list. just because he was the best player here for the last 2 years, doesn't make him a good player.
- mehetmet

I like this guy.

Dream on, there is no way on earth that the Isles are trading Brock Nelson to get back Matt Moulson, who will probably be out of the league in two years.

Dream on, there is no way on earth that the Isles are trading Brock Nelson to get back Matt Moulson, who will probably be out of the league in two years.
- mtrico

You won't trade Nelson for Moulson, but you will trade Moulson a 1st and a 2nd for a year of Vanek? I call double standards. We take Nelson, you keep Moulson for good. No more whining out of you Islanders. I want brock and jack playing together. Done and Done.

USA! USA! USA! USA!

You won't trade Nelson for Moulson, but you will trade Moulson a 1st and a 2nd for a year of Vanek? I call double standards. We take Nelson, you keep Moulson for good. No more whining out of you Islanders. I want brock and jack playing together. Done and Done.

USA! USA! USA! USA!
- RhinoFan

thumbs up for you, this made me chuckle, well done

This is the finest bit of fiction Garth has ever produced. Moulson is 32 years old with a 5m cap hit. Franson has a 3.3 m cap hit. Ennis has a 4.6m cap hit. Thats 13m a year for three players who are done. Garth Snow wouldn't trade a bag of pucks for these three Lougans much less for top prospects Dal Colle and Nielson

It's been said ad nauseam but no way would the Islanders trade Nelson AND Dal Colle for Moulson & Franson. We already had a GM that made those type of awful deals for 10 straight years and we're just now recovering from it (though get reminded of those deals any time Chara or Spezza come to town).

I'd maybe do Bailey for Moulson straight up in the hopes that he recaptures the magic he had with JT. Outside of that, no forward on our roster could ever be apart of a trade where Moulson would be the centerpiece of the package coming back.