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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 7 @ 6:19 PM ET
We do have tradable parts, but people don't want to move. Hansen has value to get a high draft pick but no one wants to move him.
- VANTEL

At this point I'd move any (frank)er that's over 25, except Markstrom, if the return was there...I think he turns 26 January 31st?

Edit: I do believe you need veterans around, but good ones, not Higgins & Burrows.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 7 @ 6:24 PM ET
At this point I'd move any (frank)er that's over 25, except Markstrom, if the return was there...I think he turns 26 January 31st?

Edit: I do believe you need veterans around, but good ones, not Higgins & Burrows.

- LeftCoaster



I am a fan of Hansen. Have been for years but I would trade him if I could get a first.

With two firsts you could move up in the draft
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 7 @ 6:28 PM ET
I am a fan of Hansen. Have been for years but I would trade him if I could get a first.

With two firsts you could move up in the draft

- VANTEL


I could get on board with that.
2 more years at 2.5 is great value.
but he's 29...so i take your point, he is likely peaking now.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 7 @ 6:31 PM ET
I could get on board with that.
2 more years at 2.5 is great value.
but he's 29...so i take your point, he is likely peaking now.

- dbot



He is one of the easiest players to move for a good return. It won't cripple the team. I would only do it for a first rounder though top 33 pick
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 7 @ 6:48 PM ET
I just went through the UFA list for Canucks for next year. I would only bring back Biega.

I don't mind Bartowski but not at 1.75. I would look for a replacement for Cracknell and Prust. See if you can upgrade.


The rest adios
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 7 @ 6:50 PM ET
Critical hit.
- neem55


18/00 strength
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 7 @ 6:50 PM ET
Not tanking, strategically losing. Yes I would rather miss the playoffs if the Vets drive the bus, because they all jump off in the playoffs. Why bother? If the kids drive the bus, maybe they stay in the drivers seat all playoffs long.
- Retinalz


bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 7 @ 6:57 PM ET
Backes is an A Hole

Good , but still an A hole.

I see Hanks work ethic in Bo. I see a bit of Bertuzzi in his power moves. I see a small bit of Toews in his drive to the net , and I see a little flash and dash of Datsyuk with his few dangles.

Don't get me wrong , he is no where near as talented as the mentioned but that's the parts of his game that stands out. He does it all.

- VANTEL


Backes is an overrated, underachieving, classless player. I don't know why people don't see that he's a playoff choker as well. So happy StL match when offer-sheeted.

Edit: 29gms, 5g, 8a, 13pts, -5
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 7 @ 7:00 PM ET
Backes is an overrated, underachieving, classless player. I don't know why people don't see that he's a playoff choker as well. So happy StL match when offer-sheeted.

Edit: 29gms, 5g, 8a, 13pts, -5

- bloatedmosquito


Too bad the Canucks did with Kesler...

Wait, the blues didn't offer sheet Kesler, that was Philly. Ohlund was Toronto. It was Bernier
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 7 @ 7:01 PM ET
Backes is an overrated, underachieving, classless player. I don't know why people don't see that he's a playoff choker as well. So happy StL match when offer-sheeted.
- bloatedmosquito


GP G A PTS PIM

2007-08 St. Louis Blues NHL 72 13 18 31 99
2008-09 St. Louis Blues NHL 82 31 23 54 165
2009-10 St. Louis Blues NHL 79 17 31 48 106
2010-11 St. Louis Blues NHL 82 31 31 62 93
2011-12 St. Louis Blues NHL 82 24 30 54 101
2012-13 St. Louis Blues NHL 48 6 22 28 62
2013-14 St. Louis Blues NHL 74 27 30 57 119
2014-15 St. Louis Blues NHL 80 26 32 58 104

so 25G, 30 A and 100+ PIM a game.
Totally over-rate and under achieving.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 7 @ 7:02 PM ET
So Shink made the all star team. Where does anyone envision him playing on the Canucks roster?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 7 @ 7:03 PM ET
So Shink made the all star team. Where does anyone envision him playing on the Canucks roster?
- VANTEL


3rd line winger (once we trade Sven or Vey)
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 7 @ 7:04 PM ET
GP G A PTS PIM

2007-08 St. Louis Blues NHL 72 13 18 31 99
2008-09 St. Louis Blues NHL 82 31 23 54 165
2009-10 St. Louis Blues NHL 79 17 31 48 106
2010-11 St. Louis Blues NHL 82 31 31 62 93
2011-12 St. Louis Blues NHL 82 24 30 54 101
2012-13 St. Louis Blues NHL 48 6 22 28 62
2013-14 St. Louis Blues NHL 74 27 30 57 119
2014-15 St. Louis Blues NHL 80 26 32 58 104

so 25G, 30 A and 100+ PIM a game.
Totally over-rate and under achieving.

- dbot

You can't statistically track being a POS douchebag. Or can you?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 7 @ 7:04 PM ET
You can't statistically track being a POS douchebag. Or can you?
- LeftCoaster


oh, not debating he's a dbag.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 7 @ 7:04 PM ET
3rd line winger (once we trade Sven or Vey)
- dbot

I can see him playing third line wing. I am not sure we are trading Vey or Bae
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 7 @ 7:04 PM ET
3rd line winger (once we trade Sven or Vey)
- dbot


Why not 2nd line LW?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 7 @ 7:06 PM ET
I can see him playing third line wing. I am not sure we are trading Vey or Bae
- VANTEL


Both are RFA next year.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 7 @ 7:06 PM ET
You can't statistically track being a POS douchebag. Or can you?
- LeftCoaster

I don't mind him being a POS I just don't think he is an effective POS in the playoffs when it matters
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 7 @ 7:06 PM ET
Why not 2nd line LW?
- 1970vintage


He might get there...but i don't like handing kids the keys.
I feel he should earn it a bit, prove himself before he get's the top 6 minutes.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 7 @ 7:07 PM ET
Both are RFA next year.
- 1970vintage

Yup give them new contracts
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 7 @ 7:08 PM ET
Why not 2nd line LW?
- 1970vintage

He could be but Sven is winning that spot right now.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 7 @ 7:08 PM ET
Yup give them new contracts
- VANTEL


I would not bring both back.
Try to package one or the other at TDL.
They are too similar imo.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 7 @ 7:08 PM ET
GP G A PTS PIM

2007-08 St. Louis Blues NHL 72 13 18 31 99
2008-09 St. Louis Blues NHL 82 31 23 54 165
2009-10 St. Louis Blues NHL 79 17 31 48 106
2010-11 St. Louis Blues NHL 82 31 31 62 93
2011-12 St. Louis Blues NHL 82 24 30 54 101
2012-13 St. Louis Blues NHL 48 6 22 28 62
2013-14 St. Louis Blues NHL 74 27 30 57 119
2014-15 St. Louis Blues NHL 80 26 32 58 104

so 30 G, 30 A and 100+ PIM a game.

- dbot


I'm talking playoffs (insert Jim Mora picture here).

I can post some dazzling Luongo stats to overwhelm the reader but that doesn't exclude the fact the Backes has lead a stacked team nowhere in the playoffs. And StL traded Oshie for those sins? Terrible choice.

Hey, it's the same knock on many a canuck player so it goes both ways.

Remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xih29K5NL5s

He's a jerk. Loses his cool all the time. Costs his team in crucial moments. Terrible captain.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 7 @ 7:11 PM ET
I would not bring both back.
Try to package one or the other at TDL.
They are too similar imo.

- dbot

WD likes them both. So do I


Benning gave up 2 seconds for them, I think Skink gets traded before them
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 7 @ 7:11 PM ET
He might get there...but i don't like handing kids the keys.
I feel he should earn it a bit, prove himself before he get's the top 6 minutes.

- dbot


Wait, I thought this was a fantasy question. He hasn't earned NHL minutes yet...
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