can I get a recap of who's been wrong today please
- BulliesPhan87

Pretty much everyone except me.

It'd be easier to list the one person who was right.
- Mononoke

ty

tyvm

LOL, you're free to prove how I'm wrong. I'll be waiting on the edge of my seat.
- MJL

You need to get laid.

You need to get laid.
- Mononoke

Don't we all!

Don't we all!
- MJL

People aren't keen to admit Weber's game has fallen off a tad aside from being elite offensively and an elite PP QB, which he still is. A five years younger Josi is preferable to me. I'm right you're wrong nana nana boo boo.

Now let's argue semantics for 3 hours.
- Mononoke

I can pee further than you.

I can pee further than you.
- jmatchett383

Yeah but what is your cap hit?

Yeah but what is your cap hit?
- YuenglingJagr

4 units of cap

I can pee further than you.
- jmatchett383

I concede defeat.

It'd be easier to list the one person who was right.
- Mononoke

Hello

It is pretty clear what his point is, and it is a legitimate point. Rafalski retired due to injury and the other examples of players terminating SPCs (Semin as an example) terminated because they had viable alternatives to make similar money in other leagues

which of those categories does Vinny fall into?
- YuenglingJagr

It's really not legitimate at all. The reason it would have no affect on guaranteed contracts is because its a mutual termination. Doesnt matter what the reason is at all..

As long as both the player and team agree, the termination is legal and valid. Nobody would freak out about guaranteed contracts being violated or tampered with.

Hello
- KINGKENZO

Yeah, you actually were right. You, sir, get my vote.

It's really not legitimate at all. The reason it would have no affect on guaranteed contracts is because its a mutual termination. Doesnt matter what the reason is at all..

As long as both the player and team agree, the termination is legal and valid. Nobody would freak out about guaranteed contracts being violated or tampered with.
- jak521

Who exactly would file a grievance, and on what basis? No rules of the CBA would be violated, and both parties agreed to it. What grounds would the NHLPA have to object? Would the league object?

Honestly, Lecavalier's words don't mesh with his approach. If money really doesn't matter, and he just wants to play, and he believes in his ability, why wouldn't he agree to terminate, and move on with his career? There's no way after sitting most of the year, that he magically finds his game again. It's really getting down to now or never. I'd be shocked if the Flyers could trade him.
- MJL

People are taking his words far too literally. What he said in that interview are the standard canned answers any player in his position would say. The truth is clear to everyone: right now the Flyers don't want to play him and he's not interested in retiring or terminating or waiving any of the terms of his contract. It's really simple.

Don't we all!
- MJL

It'd be easier to list the one person who was right.
- Mononoke

Me, because I haven't posted all day

People are taking his words far too literally. What he said in that interview are the standard canned answers any player in his position would say. The truth is clear to everyone: right now the Flyers don't want to play him and he's not interested in retiring or terminating or waiving any of the terms of his contract. It's really simple.
- Scoob

Politician lies = liar
VLC lies = misunderstood

Politician lies = liar
VLC lies = misunderstood
- jmatchett383

The only one's who misunderstand what VL said are those with reading comprehension issues.

Me, because I haven't posted all day
- Jsaquella

Incorrect. The answer was James Tanner.

(I'm going to rip out my tongue now for even saying that in jest)

The only one's who misunderstand what VL said are those with reading comprehension issues.
- Scoob

Okay, maybe not a liar. Maybe a hypocrite.

People are taking his words far too literally. What he said in that interview are the standard canned answers any player in his position would say. The truth is clear to everyone: right now the Flyers don't want to play him and he's not interested in retiring or terminating or waiving any of the terms of his contract. It's really simple.
- Scoob

Some of this I agree with and some I don't. I think there is a lot in there that are his exact feelings. He foolishly still thinks there is hope that he is traded and he can play somewhere else. If he thinks there is hope of him playing as a Flyer, then he is either stupid or delusional, or both.

Incorrect. The answer was James Tanner.

(I'm going to rip out my tongue now for even saying that in jest)
- Mononoke

James Tanner glances at a keyboard and it magically just starts spewing forth lies and falsehoods.

People are taking his words far too literally. What he said in that interview are the standard canned answers any player in his position would say. The truth is clear to everyone: right now the Flyers don't want to play him and he's not interested in retiring or terminating or waiving any of the terms of his contract. It's really simple.
- Scoob

For Lecavalier, I think it boils down to a few things:

1. Is there a team willing to sign him to a SPC? Even a $1mm deal for 1 year might be far fetched. The best he might be able to do as a UFA following a mutual termination is a PTO. That potentially puts him in a worse spot than he is now, because at least now he's got an outside shot at playing because he's still on a roster.

2. Walking away from money. Granted Vinny doesn't likely need the money, and he's still getting paid by Tampa Bay. But if he terminates, he's leaving a lot of cash on the table and might have no guarantee of another contract.

3. Will the Flyers execute a buy out? I would, but Hextall may well decide not to. While I don't feel that the buy out penalties are severe enough to hurt, a valid argument could be made about just keeping Lecavalier right where he is until he decides to retire or the deal expires. In that case, Lecavalier's best chance to play is injuries to others.

It sucks for Lecavalier, but these are the likely options he faces.

Incorrect. The answer was James Tanner.

(I'm going to rip out my tongue now for even saying that in jest)
- Mononoke

Nah, you're right. I told a guy at work I was having a great day. Man, I was wrong badly there.