Yeah, it's a unique opportunity to land a great kid, but I'm not blowing any long-term plans up to get him, either.
- Tomahawk

Precisely

I agree with your points JSAQ. I will check out that article. If the Bolts did decide to move Drouin now, would his stock be down? I mean if the Flyers could add him for a reasonable package you would have to consider it. His skill set really fills a Flyers weakness. Would Simmonds, Morin, and this years # 1 be a massive overpayment?
- PLindbergh31

I wouldn't trade this year's 1st unless it was protected. I also think I wouldn't trade Simmonds, especially with a top tier prospect(which I'd consider Porvorov, Konecny, Morin and Sanheim to be).

As far as Drouin's stock, that is the really valid question. I mean, the kid was drafted 2 years ago, seen as a potential elite/franchise winger and has produced at the NHL level. But there also seem to be maturity issues or at least communication issues. And if he is that good, even with Tampa Bay's depth you wonder why he's not playing so well they have no choice but to dress him and play him a load of minutes.

I'd probably be good with Brayden Schenn, a prospect like Hagg or Aube Kubel and a 2nd rounder for him. More than that and the risk might be too much.

I'm not giving up Simmonds, B.Schenn, Ghost, Morin, Sanheim or Provorov for Drouin. I'm willing to give up a first round pick and sweetening the pot with a project player such as Hagg or Laughton but that's it...and I still think this is an overpayment. Anything beyond this is a no sale.

I'm not giving up Simmonds, B.Schenn, Ghost, Morin, Sanheim or Provorov for Drouin. I'm willing to give up a first round pick and sweetening the pot with a project player such as Hagg or Laughton but that's it...and I still think this is an overpayment. Anything beyond this is a no sale.
- SuperSchennBros

I'd need the first to be lotto protected, or at least have the Flyers determine if it's a 2016 or 2017 pick.

Ron Willson says he doesn't know any Russian player
He about to meet Provorov.
Go Russia

I wouldn't trade this year's 1st unless it was protected. I also think I wouldn't trade Simmonds, especially with a top tier prospect(which I'd consider Porvorov, Konecny, Morin and Sanheim to be).

As far as Drouin's stock, that is the really valid question. I mean, the kid was drafted 2 years ago, seen as a potential elite/franchise winger and has produced at the NHL level. But there also seem to be maturity issues or at least communication issues. And if he is that good, even with Tampa Bay's depth you wonder why he's not playing so well they have no choice but to dress him and play him a load of minutes.

I'd probably be good with Brayden Schenn, a prospect like Hagg or Aube Kubel and a 2nd rounder for him. More than that and the risk might be too much.
- Jsaquella

I went back and looked a trade of a former 1st rounder who had questions of when he would make an NHL impact. He was moved to get a winger to help immediately.

Caps traded Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat and Michael Latta.

So I know people will say "not the same situation" but as a GM i would be looking at that and basing my deal off that. Lightening can keep Drouin for all I care. But If I am offering a deal I am offering something like B.Schenn + Cousins or something like that. Right now Drouin hasn't shown me anything where I feel he is a cant miss player so I am not parting with a first rounder when I know my team is in transition and building for the future.

I don't NEED Drouin.

Ron Willson says he doesn't know any Russian player
He about to meet Provorov.
Go Russia
- Winning

Fazleyev gon' pack his lunch.

But seriously, I see the US taking that game by 2 goals.

I went back and looked a trade of a former 1st rounder who had questions of when he would make an NHL impact. He was moved to get a winger to help immediately.

Caps traded Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat and Michael Latta.

So I know people will say "not the same situation" but as a GM i would be looking at that and basing my deal off that. Lightening can keep Drouin for all I care. But If I am offering a deal I am offering something like B.Schenn + Cousins or something like that. Right now Drouin hasn't shown me anything where I feel he is a cant miss player so I am not parting with a first rounder when I know my team is in transition and building for the future.

I don't NEED Drouin.
- J35Bacher

The Lightning don't need him either. He's a luxury for them; a luxury that doesn't seem to fit

I wouldn't trade this year's 1st unless it was protected. I also think I wouldn't trade Simmonds, especially with a top tier prospect(which I'd consider Porvorov, Konecny, Morin and Sanheim to be).

As far as Drouin's stock, that is the really valid question. I mean, the kid was drafted 2 years ago, seen as a potential elite/franchise winger and has produced at the NHL level. But there also seem to be maturity issues or at least communication issues. And if he is that good, even with Tampa Bay's depth you wonder why he's not playing so well they have no choice but to dress him and play him a load of minutes.

I'd probably be good with Brayden Schenn, a prospect like Hagg or Aube Kubel and a 2nd rounder for him. More than that and the risk might be too much.
- Jsaquella

I'd do Schenn and Sanheim. No Simmonds. I'd want a pick back.

Ron Willson says he doesn't know any Russian player
He about to meet Provorov.
Go Russia
- Winning

I'd do Schenn and Sanheim. No Simmonds. I'd want a pick back.
- AllInForFlyers

I'd only do that if they're including JvR.

Edit: Or Bobby Ryan

The Lightning don't need him either. He's a luxury for them; a luxury that doesn't seem to fit
- arichardson22

A player drafted 3rd overall is not a luxury. If he busts, that is a significant top asset lost.

The Lightning don't need him either. He's a luxury for them; a luxury that doesn't seem to fit
- arichardson22

So then why do I need to offer a high first rounder and top prospect for him? If I was offering a major package. Like 1st rounder Simmonds morin or whatever was talked about, I would be aiming for someone like Sam Bennett. He has showed me more at the NHL level then Drouin.

Right now I don't know how high his value is. SO it's hard for me to build a huge package for him.

I'd do Schenn and Sanheim. No Simmonds. I'd want a pick back.
- AllInForFlyers

There's no way I would include Sanheim or any of the top defense prospects.

I went back and looked a trade of a former 1st rounder who had questions of when he would make an NHL impact. He was moved to get a winger to help immediately.

Caps traded Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat and Michael Latta.

So I know people will say "not the same situation" but as a GM i would be looking at that and basing my deal off that. Lightening can keep Drouin for all I care. But If I am offering a deal I am offering something like B.Schenn + Cousins or something like that. Right now Drouin hasn't shown me anything where I feel he is a cant miss player so I am not parting with a first rounder when I know my team is in transition and building for the future.

I don't NEED Drouin.
- J35Bacher

Agreed. Of course, when that deal was made a lot of folks ripped the Caps for it

I'd only do that if they're including JvR.

Edit: Or Bobby Ryan
- jmatchett383

We're all entitled to our opinions. I don't think Hagg or NAK gets is done, and if you want the player, then pay the price

If I wanted the player, that's what I would be willing to pay. You don't have to make it a big deal, man

There's no way I would include Sanheim or any of the top defense prospects.
- MJL

Ok! You don't have to!

Agreed. Of course, when that deal was made a lot of folks ripped the Caps for it
- Jsaquella

I know.

I kind of have a feeling though that the lightening are going to get something like that. I don't think they will get what everyone is expecting.

How nice would a pairing of Headman and Jones look right now.

I wouldn't trade this year's 1st unless it was protected. I also think I wouldn't trade Simmonds, especially with a top tier prospect(which I'd consider Porvorov, Konecny, Morin and Sanheim to be).

As far as Drouin's stock, that is the really valid question. I mean, the kid was drafted 2 years ago, seen as a potential elite/franchise winger and has produced at the NHL level. But there also seem to be maturity issues or at least communication issues. And if he is that good, even with Tampa Bay's depth you wonder why he's not playing so well they have no choice but to dress him and play him a load of minutes.

I'd probably be good with Brayden Schenn, a prospect like Hagg or Aube Kubel and a 2nd rounder for him. More than that and the risk might be too much.
- Jsaquella

I would part with that package in a cocaine heartbeat for Drouin. Not sure the Bolts would even consider it. Seems like it's becoming a toxic situation in TB, they may have to move him.

So then why do I need to offer a high first rounder and top prospect for him? If I was offering a major package. Like 1st rounder Simmonds morin or whatever was talked about, I would be aiming for someone like Sam Bennett. He has showed me more at the NHL level then Drouin.

Right now I don't know how high his value is. SO it's hard for me to build a huge package for him.
- J35Bacher

Yeah, for a package like that, I'd be going after some other guys (Bennett, Draisaitl, or I'd go all-out for Gaudreau).

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- bmeltzer

bill what would you offer up for drouin?

We're all entitled to our opinions. I don't think Hagg or NAK gets is done, and if you want the player, then pay the price

If I wanted the player, that's what I would be willing to pay. You don't have to make it a big deal, man
- AllInForFlyers

Dude, I'm just having some fun man. Calm down.

hi

Agreed. Of course, when that deal was made a lot of folks ripped the Caps for it
- Jsaquella

Yeah, that was up there with Eminger for a first and the Goligoski for Neal/Niskanen trades.

I know.

I kind of have a feeling though that the lightening are going to get something like that. I don't think they will get what everyone is expecting.

How nice would a pairing of Headman and Jones look right now.
- J35Bacher

Simmonds for Jones and Morin for Drouin