They are a total mess. I'm not a Sixers fan, nor am I really an NBA fan, but jfc couldn't they have at least retired Moses Malone's number before he passed away? Give the guy a night. He was such a great player.
- PLindbergh31

Next time they'll be sure to give the retired guy a physical before scheduling to retire his jersey.

Getzlaf has been a bandaid for along time and still managed to get into Hart Trophy talks with Giroux 2 or 3 years ago and he's a number of years older.
- SuperSchennBros

That's because Getzlaf is a better player than Giroux.

Agreed. He needs better players around him. His even strength scoring was down when he played with Voracek too though.
- PhillySportsGuy

He's also dependent on guys finishing off plays to get points, being primarily a playmaker. Even last year, Voracek isn't really a finisher and Raffl's shooting % was high.

Now he's with Raffl who has been up and down, and Schenn, who has been...well, Brayden Schenn. The same hot and cold guy he's been for years.

Hey, lay off of random unknown white dude, he's got bad knees. Give him a break!
- jmatchett383

His name is Jeff Ruland, and he had well known knee issues when the trade went down.

His name is Jeff Ruland, and he had well known knee issues when the trade went down.
- Jsaquella

Come on man, he's got bad knees, no need to bash him.

I'm off. Today has been educational.

G is too old to carry a team.

Drouin is worth an established roster player and prized defensive prospect.

Schenn 40 plus points a season sucks, on an already weak offensive team, with awful depth. I'm still wondering what his expectation is suppose to be but let's head back to the Saad/Schenn comparison.

That's because Getzlaf is a better player than Giroux.
- jmatchett383

If you say so.

I'm not arguing anything. I'm saying Giroux isn't what he was 2-3 years ago. He's not going to score 80-90 points with just any linemates. His ES scoring hasn't been elite for a while now. I still think he's really good, but he needs more help than Schenn and Raffl.
- PhillySportsGuy

12-13 was when his ES scoring went down. Also the season the Flyers defense lost Pronger and Carle, and Meszaros got ruined by injuries.

I 100% agree with you. It's not all Schenn, it's how he's used. It's the strategy of the team. The new argument is he prefers right at even strength. We just put him there this year. So what was the expectation the moment we finally gave him a home in his 5th season?
- SuperSchennBros

I just don't like how they basically cut the ice in half for themselves in that setup. There were times where Schenn could one-touch a pass over to a guy on the weak side for a one-time chance, but not often enough to really activate the entire zone.

With Ghost being such a presence up top, bringing Schenn down lower makes sense to stretch the PK out even more.

That's because Getzlaf is a better player than Giroux.
- jmatchett383

Imagine this forum if G had one goal at Christmas.

I'm off. Today has been educational.

G is too old to carry a team.

Drouin is worth an established roster player and prized defensive prospect.

Schenn 40 plus points a season sucks, on an already weak offensive team, with awful depth. I'm still wondering what his expectation is suppose to be but let's head back to the Saad/Schenn comparison.
- SuperSchennBros

Still not sure where you saw more than 2 players wanting to trade Schenn + one of our top prospects for Drouin.

Next time they'll be sure to give the retired guy a physical before scheduling to retire his jersey.
- PhillySportsGuy

Did Julius Erving, Iverson, Barkley have their jerseys retired before they were 60?

Imagine this forum if G had one goal at Christmas.
- Feanor

That happened back in (I think) 12-13, or was it 13-14? I think he went like 16 games or so without a goal. That said, if I had to take a player's overall career, I'd take Getzlaf, and I love Giroux.

Sounds like the lines from the end of the Kings game are sticking. I'm excited to see if Couturier and BSchenn can get something going.
- Feanor

i liked em

poop, at least Ish Smith is an active player. Brand retired last year.
- Jsaquella

veteran mentor for theBig Men......its actually a good move.

Brand is a solid human being and a Duke Alum. He will be a positive influence on Okafor

I (personally) think that B. Schenn is approaching a known quantity, which is a middle 6 winger (who will want a raise next year). I think that Drouin has question marks, but is an unknown quantity (who still has another year on his ELC). Sure Drouin could bust or become a cancer, but I'd take a shot on him. Just my feelings.
- jmatchett383

I have no issue with that. It then becomes at what cost? The problem is many don't want to consider that Drouin could wind up as just a guy also. Reality is that there isn't a poster here who truly knows. Fun to discuss certainly, but some are wanting to trade the farm and offer up top defense prospects who use to be the future and saviors of the team because a shiny new toy came along.

veteran mentor for theBig Men......its actually a good move.

Brand is a solid human being and a Duke Alum. He will be a positive influence on Okafor
- KINGKENZO

Yeah, it's obvious why he was signed. It can't hurt, and Brand is widely known as a good locker room and team first guy

Getzlaf has been a bandaid for along time and still managed to get into Hart Trophy talks with Giroux 2 or 3 years ago and he's a number of years older.
- SuperSchennBros

he has perry

B Schenn, Vinny, and a 1st for Drouin. DO IT HEXY!

he has perry
- KINGKENZO

Perry has Getzlaf

Chicken or the Egg?

Put Schenn on the 4th line with no PP minutes and see what happens to his point totals.
- PhillySportsGuy

You might want to take a look at Drouin's ice time averages.

Still not sure where you saw more than 2 players wanting to trade Schenn + one of our top prospects for Drouin.
- jmatchett383

Because there weren't any.

Drouin might end up being just an average player. Absolutely. The same could happen to any of the Flyers prospects, too

The most established NHLer anyone mentioned was Simmonds, who while good has his limitations. Schenn is the same player he was 3 years ago when he was a rookie-struggles with consistency, hasn't really found his groove or produced a ton given his useage.

And most have been adamant that they wouldn't trade both Simmonds and one of the top D prospects(Morin, Sanheim & Provorov). Hell, I suggested going no higher than Schenn, Hagg (who is a B prospect) and a 2nd rounder. Not sure how that gets turned into "dynamiting the Wells Fargo Center"

His point totals could grow more too, couldn't they?
- PhillySportsGuy

Absolutely they could. Drouin could wind up a star. Reality is that neither you, nor I, or any other poster knows what the kid will eventually be.

FWIW:

Rychel has asked to be traded form Columbus.

Don't worry. His pt/60 will be fine. Thats what happens with that stat. 12 minutes on the 4th line results in a higher pt/60 than 18 minutes on the top line.
- PhillySportsGuy

Cooper is a fool! Just play Drouin 18 minutes on the top line and he'll put up 80 points like Voracek did. All based on his pt/60 stat. I'm not sure why coaches and GM's just don't forget about watching the game, and just use stats!