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Pope of Pucks
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Miller's Dark Shadows, AZ
Joined: 08.04.2009

Dec 29 @ 5:13 PM ET
It would be nice to see Ovi get rocked (cleanly of course) for boarding Gorges. I've never been a fan of #8.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 29 @ 5:15 PM ET
yeah, goosie, that too...the first time last night that gus and Gionta joined Eichel on a line, Eichel worked some puck-magic, danced in and got a shot off from in close...gus and Gionta were right there
- Michael Pachla


Are you talking about the end-to-end that Eichel had?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 29 @ 5:18 PM ET
Potatos anyone? Or is it potatoes...nod to Dan Quayle.
- LandlordTom

I have no idea what this means.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 29 @ 5:20 PM ET
It needs to get called. I think the cries of safety to allow some of this nonsense is overstated.

There were a few more big time hits back the year after the lockout, but there were not the sheer number of hits, simply because players weren't slowed down enough to be able to be hit.

- kingcong39


Including one of the biggest hits of all time. Campbell on Umberger. What do you think that would be worth today? Regular season I'd say 5 or 6 games. Playoffs 2. What did Rome get for the hit on Horton in the finals? 4 or 5 right? Back then it was just an awesome hit.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 29 @ 5:23 PM ET
pretty damn expensive too



- homiedclown


More expensive than Panera or Chipotle?
ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Dec 29 @ 5:48 PM ET
It would be nice to see Ovi get rocked (cleanly of course) for boarding Gorges. I've never been a fan of #8.
- Pope of Pucks


I liked that mccabe took a good run at him right after and didnt even bother about the puck, but i would have rather seen someone on the ice jump him right on the spot. OV went right back at mccabe at the end of the sequence and i would have rather seen mccabe put his stick right in OVs grill.

Following almost every big hit that IS clean players want to fight, just look at the delauries hit. So i dont understand why on a dirty hit like that no one steps up on this team. Are delauries and foligno the only ones on this roster willing?

Doubtful because oh wait... down two under 5 mins, cant take an instigator penalty that is clearly protecting the players


gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 29 @ 5:53 PM ET
Time to sit back and relax and have some Buffalo pizza
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Dec 29 @ 5:53 PM ET
It would be nice to see Ovi get rocked (cleanly of course) for boarding Gorges. I've never been a fan of #8.
- Pope of Pucks


Reminds me of the old days of the Jordan Rules in the NBA. Stardom does earn some respect but Ovi seems to get away with really questionable hits a lot.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 29 @ 6:03 PM ET
More expensive than Panera or Chipotle?
- Wetbandit1

I have never been to a panera


$12 for a foot long, chips and drink
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 29 @ 6:03 PM ET
Time to sit back and relax and have some Buffalo pizza
- gerbe75pts

Richard
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Dec 29 @ 6:04 PM ET
I have no idea what this means.
- Der Kaiser

Jeropotato from Edmonton...trolled our pages heavily yesterday and I was one of the troll feeders. You know, the guy that posts WWE pics nonstop.

I dont think the troll reference was meant for Panacea, but multi paragraph rants against a guy who has not been charged with anything, while holding our gm responsible for trading for the guy is fine by me...might look a little, I dont know, defensive to some. Oh, and we have the " anyone who criticizes the Sabres gets the shaft" argument again. What else do you expect from lazy hypocritical sycophants?
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Dec 29 @ 6:06 PM ET
Jeropotato from Edmonton...trolled our pages heavily yesterday and I was one of the troll feeders. You know, the guy that posts WWE pics nonstop.

I dont think the troll reference was meant for Panacea, but multi paragraph rants against a guy who has not been charged with anything, while holding our gm responsible for trading for the guy is fine by me...might look a little, I dont know, defensive to some. Oh, and we have the " anyone who criticizes the Sabres gets the shaft" argument again. What else do you expect from lazy hypocritical sycophants?

- LandlordTom



Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 29 @ 6:10 PM ET
I am a troll for saying only the truth. I am sorry that you all want to ignore the fact that Kane is a piece of garbage. I am not going to ignore it. I have not said anything that isn't true.

According to many here, you are a troll if you have anything negative to say about anything to do with the Sabres. People with any criticism are immediately attacked and people put words in their mouths and accuse them of saying things they never said.

Never am I met with an argument against what I post. I am told to let it go, or called a delusional moron. Why? Because what I am saying is true, and you cant debate it, so you attack instead.

I never start attacking anyone, and I am attacked every time I have anything critical to say. Then I say something back and I am the troll.

Safety in numbers, and all you homers have the numbers, which is why people like me stop posting and leave you all to your lala land playtime. And then when the next guy comes along it is him against everyone else.

At the very least, come back with an argument as to why you disagree. Don't just call people names and tell them to go away.

The thought of people seeking attention from this conglomerate is comical. There are about ten people who post here whose opinion I respect and I disagree with them on most things. The rest of the people are just in the way. I could care less what most of you think. And I am certainly not looking for attention from any of you. Most times I post and leave so I don't have to read the ignorant insults and deal with ignorant minds that cant argue a point so they call you names instead.

Evander Kane has bad moral character, he is selfish, arrogant, and is not someone I want on a team I root for. if you want this guy on your team, or if you want to defend him, that's on you. I have a higher standard of what meets human decency. I am not a troll for pointing out things that are true.


- SabresPanacea


No, you're not.

The reason why people think you're a troll is because you think that you're better than everyone else, and only you know the real truth, and everyone else is blind to it. I happen to agree with a lot of what you say, it's just how you say it.

I agree with you, and I think Kane is an bumhole. Even if it turns out he was "just" cheating on his girlfriend and everything was consensual. That's something an bumhole does. But the object of the NHL is to make money, and to make money you have to, unless you're the Leafs, win games, go to the playoffs, and do well and possibly win a Stanley Cup. No where does it say that you have to have a team full of nice, decent guys to do that. You have to weigh the negative PR of having bumholes on your team against the positive PR of winning. Look at the Patriots. They have/had a lot of bumholes on their teams and they have 4 Super Bowl wins in the last 14 years. How many did the Bills have during that time, only drafting/signing "nice" guys? It seems that after Ralph died they finally realized that excluding a guy because he's a Richard is not a sound business move.

And think of your job. I bet there's at least one guy who brags about lying to his girlfriend/wife. Whether it's about going out and drinking with his buddies when he says he's working late, or whether it's lying about working late when he's actually cheating on her. Or he brags about cheating the company out of time/money.

The only difference is that athletes do their job in front of as many as millions of people, and you-I'm not saying you personally- don't, so all their poop gets magnified.

I think you're thinking of the word hegemony, not conglomerate. By definition a conglomerate is a grouping of many different things. Procter & Gamble is a conglomerate, Red Bull is a conglomerate. A hegemony is dominance of one group over others.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 29 @ 6:21 PM ET
I liked that mccabe took a good run at him right after and didnt even bother about the puck, but i would have rather seen someone on the ice jump him right on the spot. OV went right back at mccabe at the end of the sequence and i would have rather seen mccabe put his stick right in OVs grill.

Following almost every big hit that IS clean players want to fight, just look at the delauries hit. So i dont understand why on a dirty hit like that no one steps up on this team. Are delauries and foligno the only ones on this roster willing?

Doubtful because oh wait... down two under 5 mins, cant take an instigator penalty that is clearly protecting the players

- ieetbred


Agree, but then you'd have pandemonium, and whomever, whoever? I always screw that up. jumped him would've had the book thrown at him. Was it less than 5 minutes? I wasn't paying that close attention to the clock. Then yeah, even more so. Per the rule book, he'll get a pretty much automatic one game suspension (it's up to the discretion of the director of hockey operations) and the coach gets fined $10,000. Deslauries is the only guy who doesn't consistently get his ass kicked. Foligno is willing, as is Weber, but they lose far more often than they win.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Dec 29 @ 6:35 PM ET
I am a troll for saying only the truth. I am sorry that you all want to ignore the fact that Kane is a piece of garbage. I am not going to ignore it. I have not said anything that isn't true.

According to many here, you are a troll if you have anything negative to say about anything to do with the Sabres. People with any criticism are immediately attacked and people put words in their mouths and accuse them of saying things they never said.

Never am I met with an argument against what I post. I am told to let it go, or called a delusional moron. Why? Because what I am saying is true, and you cant debate it, so you attack instead.

I never start attacking anyone, and I am attacked every time I have anything critical to say. Then I say something back and I am the troll.

Safety in numbers, and all you homers have the numbers, which is why people like me stop posting and leave you all to your lala land playtime. And then when the next guy comes along it is him against everyone else.

At the very least, come back with an argument as to why you disagree. Don't just call people names and tell them to go away.

The thought of people seeking attention from this conglomerate is comical. There are about ten people who post here whose opinion I respect and I disagree with them on most things. The rest of the people are just in the way. I could care less what most of you think. And I am certainly not looking for attention from any of you. Most times I post and leave so I don't have to read the ignorant insults and deal with ignorant minds that cant argue a point so they call you names instead.

Evander Kane has bad moral character, he is selfish, arrogant, and is not someone I want on a team I root for. if you want this guy on your team, or if you want to defend him, that's on you. I have a higher standard of what meets human decency. I am not a troll for pointing out things that are true.


- SabresPanacea

If you think Kane is a pos, then say so. It's your persecution complex and directed comments towards others on this board that are the problem. Pretty black and white, really.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 29 @ 6:38 PM ET
I have never been to a panera


$12 for a foot long, chips and drink

- homiedclown


Damn, that is expensive. I've only been to Panera a couple times. It's really expensive for the amount of food you get. A lunch for 2 of cold-cut sandwiches, chips and drinks is like $20+.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Dec 29 @ 6:38 PM ET
I have no idea what this means.
- Der Kaiser

Dan Quayle was former Vice President of the USA, when George Herbert Walker Bush was President....the one Bush Prez that did not invade and occupy a foreign country that had not attacked us. He famously misspelled "potato" once.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Dec 29 @ 6:42 PM ET
Thinking about the girgensons convo from earlier that i missed out on..

While he has been good in his role minus offensive production, you dont spend 14th overall picks on players that show the capability of playing in the NHL at 19, and showed at 20 that he has some finish in his game to "groom" him into a third line shut down center role.

I have wanted him on eichels wing since the beginning of the season. Let larsson play 3rd line center and legwand 4th. Its frustrating as hell that a guy who scored 15g in 61 games at 20 years of age cant even get on the 2nd PP unit. And yet we have gionta shooting what, 3% getting that ice time.

- ieetbred


I know this was posted a while ago, but I agree with all of this.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 29 @ 6:53 PM ET
I know this was posted a while ago, but I agree with all of this.
- PrinceChill


Me too, but it was brought up a couple weeks ago that you can't just bury your captain on the 4th line. I'm not sure I agree with that, but I think that's a big reason why you see him out there on the PP and in 3 on 3 over more deserving guys.
ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Dec 29 @ 6:58 PM ET
Agree, but then you'd have pandemonium, and whomever, whoever? I always screw that up. jumped him would've had the book thrown at him. Was it less than 5 minutes? I wasn't paying that close attention to the clock. Then yeah, even more so. Per the rule book, he'll get a pretty much automatic one game suspension (it's up to the discretion of the director of hockey operations) and the coach gets fined $10,000. Deslauries is the only guy who doesn't consistently get his ass kicked. Foligno is willing, as is Weber, but they lose far more often than they win.
- Wetbandit1


Its not about wins and losses in fights. Mccabe should have cross checked him right in the teeth when OV came back at the end of the sequence to hit him again.

Its not like OV was going to drop the gloves and square off either, its about sending a message. Since the refs wont do it. In the context of the play im sure it would have been a 2 min minor at worst.

Like i said i understand you cant do that and put your team on the PK with that little time left but then again i completely disagree with the instigator rule so i guess its a lose lose.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Dec 29 @ 7:02 PM ET
Going to be fun rematch tomorrow. Like Pach states in the blog, coach Trotz has the Caps playing solid, even- keeled hockey, bit I wonder if theres any spillover or bad blood that might get them off their game a bit.

Prolly more important, does Holtby play again? The guy is good at the hockey.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 29 @ 7:06 PM ET
Dan Quayle was former Vice President of the USA, when George Herbert Walker Bush was President....the one Bush Prez that did not invade and occupy a foreign country that had not attacked us. He famously misspelled "potato" once.
- LandlordTom


And the relevance here is?
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Dec 29 @ 7:09 PM ET
Me too, but it was brought up a couple weeks ago that you can't just bury your captain on the 4th line. I'm not sure I agree with that, but I think that's a big reason why you see him out there on the PP and in 3 on 3 over more deserving guys.
- Wetbandit1


I think 3rd line is ideal for Captain Gio. Pains me to say, but I much prefer Nolan's use of Girgs over Bylsma's.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Dec 29 @ 7:14 PM ET
And the relevance here is?
- IonSabres


The jerodPOTATO (or however its spelled) guy(troll) from Edmonton.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 29 @ 7:19 PM ET
I am a troll for saying only the truth. I am sorry that you all want to ignore the fact that Kane is a piece of garbage. I am not going to ignore it. I have not said anything that isn't true.

According to many here, you are a troll if you have anything negative to say about anything to do with the Sabres. People with any criticism are immediately attacked and people put words in their mouths and accuse them of saying things they never said.
...content edited out as it was too long to quote....

Evander Kane has bad moral character, he is selfish, arrogant, and is not someone I want on a team I root for. if you want this guy on your team, or if you want to defend him, that's on you. I have a higher standard of what meets human decency.


- SabresPanacea


I'm not so certain his moral character is so much worse that many others that fans cheer for...he just got caught in public.
Jim Kelly, of recent God-like character according to many, was much the same...a real womanizer when he was married and had kids...hell the Bills team of the 90 was loaded with those of bad moral character if you measure it the same ...they were trashed the night before the NYG Super Bowl!!!
brusecSmith had several DWI's
Cocaine use is wide-spread in the NHL.
The litany of issues goes on and on...it just isn't published for the average Joe to know about it.

So, in my mind, if you want to vilify one guy cause it ended up in the paper...be prepared to hate a good portion of not only the Sabres, not only the NHL, but sports ...music, corporate world.

That is why I am such a prize
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