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SabresPanacea
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.16.2014

Dec 30 @ 12:20 PM ET
If there was a wonderlic test given in the NHL, Evander Kane would have broken records by scoring the first negative score in history.

How stupid do you have to be to be In the position he finds himself in now. A mere 3 months after the PKane scandal.

He is either the stupidest player to ever lace up skates, or he has absolutely no control over his impulses.

The only thing of which I am saying Kane is guilty, is being stupid and selfish.

It is not okay to go bar hopping and be trashed in the early morning before a matinee game. It is not okay to miss practice because of avoidable circumstances. It is not okay to cheat on people.

I blame Tim Murray, but not for the reason you are thinking. I am fine with him making a lopsided trade for another teams problem players. But maybe if he had the foresight to make more lopsided trades for more players with bad character then Kane wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb right now.

After all, how fun is it only having one player on your team in the news for nefarious reasons?

In the forty five years since the Sabres were established in 1970 has there ever been another player accused of rape? It only took Kane 3 months. At least he isn't lazy and doesnt procrastinate.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 30 @ 12:25 PM ET
If there was a wonderlic test given in the NHL, Evander Kane would have broken records by scoring the first negative score in history.

How stupid do you have to be to be In the position he finds himself in now. A mere 3 months after the PKane scandal.

He is either the stupidest player to ever lace up skates, or he has absolutely no control over his impulses.

The only thing of which I am saying Kane is guilty, is being stupid and selfish.

It is not okay to go bar hopping and be trashed in the early morning before a matinee game. It is not okay to miss practice because of avoidable circumstances. It is not okay to cheat on people.

I blame Tim Murray, but not for the reason you are thinking. I am fine with him making a lopsided trade for another teams problem players. But maybe if he had the foresight to make more lopsided trades for more players with bad character then Kane wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb right now.

After all, how fun is it only having one player on your team in the news for nefarious reasons.

In the forty five years since the Sabres were established in 1970 has there ever been another player accused of rape? It only took Kane 3 months. At least he isn't lazy and doesnt procrastinate.

- SabresPanacea


He hasn't been accused of rape, he was accused of sexual assault. Two very different things.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 30 @ 12:26 PM ET



It is not okay to go bar hopping and be trashed in the early morning before a matinee game.

- SabresPanacea

they flew back from Boston, then he went and got some strange , not on a night before a game



that is all I have on this
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Dec 30 @ 12:27 PM ET
If there was a wonderlic test given in the NHL, Evander Kane would have broken records by scoring the first negative score in history.

How stupid do you have to be to be In the position he finds himself in now. A mere 3 months after the PKane scandal.

He is either the stupidest player to ever lace up skates, or he has absolutely no control over his impulses.

The only thing of which I am saying Kane is guilty, is being stupid and selfish.

It is not okay to go bar hopping and be trashed in the early morning before a matinee game. It is not okay to miss practice because of avoidable circumstances. It is not okay to cheat on people.

I blame Tim Murray, but not for the reason you are thinking. I am fine with him making a lopsided trade for another teams problem players. But maybe if he had the foresight to make more lopsided trades for more players with bad character then Kane wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb right now.

After all, how fun is it only having one player on your team in the news for nefarious reasons.

In the forty five years since the Sabres were established in 1970 has there ever been another player accused of rape? It only took Kane 3 months. At least he isn't lazy and doesnt procrastinate.

- SabresPanacea



Henrik Tallinder...

But im sure you only care about ripping apart Evander Kane
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 30 @ 12:28 PM ET
they flew back from Boston, then he went and got some strange , not on a night before a game



that is all I have on this

- homiedclown


Which is something that the majority of athletes that aren't married (and some that are) do.

These athletes are not choir boys. Anyone who thinks they are is in some serious denial. It doesn't make it right, but it is what it is. I try not to stress about it.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 30 @ 12:28 PM ET
He hasn't been accused of rape, he was accused of sexual assault. Two very different things.
- HonkFortheGoose

in the 70's it was OJ

in the 90's it was Cornelius Bennett


kane wants that throne now

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 30 @ 12:29 PM ET
I often wonder if the NHL is going to collapse in on itself some day.
Sure, Bettman filled the lower bowl with high priced tickets and built more luxury boxes. But if those dont get filled, the owners arent going to be happy. And they're not going to get filled when the game is boring.

- seedy


It nearly did once before and it certainly feels like it is heading in that direction. I think Murray said it best:

"Our coaches have to come up with offensive schemes to match defensive schemes," Murray told the AP. "And obviously, it's easier to coach defense than it is to coach offense. So we're not there yet."


And part of that problem is it's hard to teach offensive schemes that match things like the trap unless you've got the talent for it (how i feel about our powerplay most nights)

Good chance if you mapped this out all roads would lead back to the salary cap.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 30 @ 12:29 PM ET
Which is something that the majority of athletes that aren't married (and some that are) do.

These athletes are not choir boys. Anyone who thinks they are is in some serious denial. It doesn't make it right, but it is what it is. I try not to stress about it.

- HonkFortheGoose

Phil Esposito would tell stories on a regular basis how the players closed the bars down in the 70's


it has always happened, we just did not have the internet to tell a side of the story til recently

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 30 @ 12:30 PM ET
Which is something that the majority of athletes that aren't married (and some that are) do.

These athletes are not choir boys. Anyone who thinks they are is in some serious denial. It doesn't make it right, but it is what it is. I try not to stress about it.

- HonkFortheGoose

No offense, but this board spent years bashing guys like Derek Roy, Stafford and others for their lifestyle.

We trashed Vanek for his gambling problem. Now with the shiny new toy Evander Kane it just "is what it is" ?

There were red flags about this dude when he came here. I think people are looking at this a little too lightly. And in no way am I saying he is guilty
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 30 @ 12:33 PM ET
No offense, but this board spent years bashing guys like Derek Roy, Stafford and others for their lifestyle.

We trashed Vanek for his gambling problem. Now with the shiny new toy Evander Kane it just "is what it is" ?

There were red flags about this dude when he came here. I think people are looking at this a little too lightly. And in no way am I saying he is guilty

- sbroads24



I don't take it lightly but as you said we knew what we were getting into, so when it does happen it's kind of a "meh" story for me.

HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 30 @ 12:34 PM ET
No offense, but this board spent years bashing guys like Derek Roy, Stafford and others for their lifestyle.

We trashed Vanek for his gambling problem. Now with the shiny new toy Evander Kane it just "is what it is" ?

There were red flags about this dude when he came here. I think people are looking at this a little too lightly. And in no way am I saying he is guilty

- sbroads24


I've said nothing about any of those guys and their off ice escapades. Maybe you have a problem with it, but whatever. I can't change what they do. I've actually said the same thing that Homie did. Players in all the major sports leagues have been doing this stuff for decades, but we hear a lot more about it now because of the internet and dozens of social media outlets (such as this one) that didn't exist back then.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 30 @ 12:35 PM ET
Henrik Tallinder...

But im sure you only care about ripping apart Evander Kane

- MCGUIZZY


Facts have no place here
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 30 @ 12:36 PM ET
I don't take it lightly but as you said we knew what we were getting into, so when it does happen it's kind of a "meh" story for me.
- Sabresfan-365

If nothing else happens, it's still a bad look.

It can only get worse.

And I don't hate Kane or feel the need to bash his character like the other poster, but I'm also not going to blame someone for doing it, it would be hypocritical
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Dec 30 @ 12:36 PM ET
Got yours and Stashu's message, had that since the end of HBSL last year, took you guys long enough
- Herzeleid


haha, sorry man, I don't often look at those but just happened to today. Thanks.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 30 @ 12:37 PM ET
No offense, but this board spent years bashing guys like Derek Roy, Stafford and others for their lifestyle.

We trashed Vanek for his gambling problem. Now with the shiny new toy Evander Kane it just "is what it is" ?

There were red flags about this dude when he came here. I think people are looking at this a little too lightly. And in no way am I saying he is guilty

- sbroads24


It was more Roy and Tiny Tim Connolly.

Connolly behind the bar pouring shots all over women when he is on the IR

Roy for playing soft likes he's been out all night drinking.

Kane doesn't play soft

Would I prefer my teams players to be in and not partying it up in all hours of the night? Absolutely but I also realize they are young with money. It's gonna happen.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 30 @ 12:37 PM ET
Kane(Evander) didn't rape anybody. He cheated on his GF. If he's guilty of anything it's of being very well endowed. Unlike this other Kane situation this one will end with him paying to make this go away.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 30 @ 12:39 PM ET
If nothing else happens, it's still a bad look.

It can only get worse.

And I don't hate Kane or feel the need to bash his character like the other poster, but I'm also not going to blame someone for doing it, it would be hypocritical

- sbroads24


I get what you're saying. Just look at the PK situation. He was never arrested, no charges ever got filed, and the whole ordeal is over with. Yet he got booed very loudly upon his return to Buffalo recently. That never happened before.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 30 @ 12:41 PM ET
I get what you're saying. Just look at the PK situation. He was never arrested, no charges ever got filed, and the whole ordeal is over with. Yet he got booed very loudly upon his return to Buffalo recently. That never happened before.
- HonkFortheGoose



I think that was an effect of mob mentality. Thousands of faceless fans in the crowd being opportunistic because he stole the game from us. Those same people would probably never say anything bad to his face and likely defended him all the while.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 30 @ 12:41 PM ET
It was more Roy and Tiny Tim Connolly.

Connolly behind the bar pouring shots all over women when he is on the IR

Roy for playing soft likes he's been out all night drinking.

Kane doesn't play soft

Would I prefer my teams players to be in and not partying it up in all hours of the night? Absolutely but I also realize they are young with money. It's gonna happen.

- Stripes77

Without a doubt. I have seen it with my two eyes with Kane and Reinhart as recent as last week. They were hammered, having fun. Whatever, they are young.

But I don't blame people for having an issue with it. Kane needs to be smarter.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 30 @ 12:42 PM ET
I think that was an effect of mob mentality. Thousands of faceless fans in the crowd being opportunistic because he stole the game from us. Those same people would probably never say anything bad to his face and likely defended him all the while.
- Buffalo--Sabres


No. I don't think that had anything to do with it. They booed him loudly right from the start of that game. The fact that he ended up being the villain at the end of the night just amplified the end boos.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 30 @ 12:42 PM ET
Kane(Evander) didn't rape anybody. He cheated on his GF. If he's guilty of anything it's of being very well endowed. Unlike this other Kane situation this one will end with him paying to make this go away.
- Buffalo--Sabres


If I'm not mistaken the girl isn't sure what happened...

So at the moment it's being investisgated cause it could be something since it's a mandatory report if she went to the hospital or Drs. He hasn't been accused of anything though if I read correctly just investigated.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 30 @ 12:43 PM ET
Without a doubt. I have seen it with my two eyes with Kane and Reinhart as recent as last week. They were hammered, having fun. Whatever, they are young.

But I don't blame people for having an issue with it. Kane needs to be smarter.

- sbroads24


Absolutely he needs to be smarter.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 30 @ 12:44 PM ET
Without a doubt. I have seen it with my two eyes with Kane and Reinhart as recent as last week. They were hammered, having fun. Whatever, they are young.

But I don't blame people for having an issue with it. Kane needs to be smarter.

- sbroads24



This I definitely agree with. But really, this happens with regular people all the time. I couldn't tell you how many times I've gone to work and had a co-worker whining all day about how hung over they are. My reply is "I feel no sympathy for you, because you did it to yourself."

I never understood the mentality of going out and getting wasted when you know you have to get up early and work the next day, but then again, I don't really understand why getting wasted is necessary at all.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 30 @ 12:47 PM ET
If I'm not mistaken the girl isn't sure what happened...

So at the moment it's being investisgated cause it could be something since it's a mandatory report if she went to the hospital or Drs. He hasn't been accused of anything though if I read correctly just investigated.

- Stripes77


That's what I read too. Oh well.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 30 @ 12:47 PM ET
This I definitely agree with. But really, this happens with regular people all the time. I couldn't tell you how many times I've gone to work and had a co-worker whining all day about how hung over they are. My reply is "I feel no sympathy for you, because you did it to yourself."

I never understood the mentality of going out and getting wasted when you know you have to get up early and work the next day, but then again, I don't really understand why getting wasted is necessary at all.

- HonkFortheGoose

I feel like Kane might be the hockey version of Johnny Manziel. He just doesn't get it. Some people can't get away with the same things other people do
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