I've already said this before.
Edmonton wins this trade indirectly.
They have cleared up the goalie obstruction that hasn't allowed the young and upcoming goalies to completely experience the starter role, as well as being able to play more games and gain crucial experience.
On a side note, Eetu was recalled to the AHL just yesterday.

If Edmonton and Kassian doesn't pan out, and if Scrivens gets buried in the Minors after this, Edmonton still comes out on top since it has allowed us to develop our projects to a greater extent due to this trade.

However, I think that Edmonton has a better chance of getting a good player out of Kassian than Montreal getting the best out of Scrivens.
- EdmHockeyMan

He will probably put up Price like #'s. Just cause.

Na its an excuse for people who cant take responsibility for their actions, jabroni
- mrn22

Addicts don't take responsibility?

Addicts don't take responsibility?
- TheIronSheik

Not when they blame taking drugs on a "sickness"

Montreal wins juat from the cap space they gained.

Not when they blame taking drugs on a "sickness"
- mrn22

Well, once you are physically addicted, you have a disease. You can work hard and get clean, but that's way harder than getting addicted in the first place. Maybe you guys just understand drug and alchahol addictions?

I don't get all the hate for Kasian. He got high on coke and was involved in a vehicular collision in which he was not driving. He's probably not even a real addict and is just doing the rehab to appease the NHL. Not all coke users are addicts that like saying all drinkers are alcoholics. In the end he's just a poopty hockey player. The drug use is a non story.

teetotaller <> tea-toddler

Buddy, you got to lay off the watch the games BS> Carey Price had one of the best goalie seasons ever last year and during that season he had two periods where he went through a worse seven game stretch than Condon recently did.

This isn't an opinion, or up for debate. That isn't "blindly" commenting. That is taking a an extremely stupid narrative and correcting it with the truth.

Unless Scrivens is going to score goals, this move is about getting rid of a player they didn't want and not so much getting a goalie, since there is zero reason for anyone to think Scrivens is superior to Condon.
- James_Tanner

This isnt a bad stretch, this is a guy that flat out sucks. His team has no confidence in him. Scrivens was superior to Condon in Juniors and he still is. Condon had 1 good week and then died. Condon is not good. This is not just a stretch. Price got hurt the 1st time and Condon came in and played great. A week later his play dropped. He doesnt have the endurance to be a start Scrivens does and he has more to work with than your pick to make the playoffs(Every season! I mean how many times do you need to be wrong to realize it isnt going to happen?) Edmonton Oilers ever could.

"every hands a winner and every hands a loser. the best you can hope for is to die in your sleep." kenny rogers

both teams win but they dont teally win anything. habs get to send tokarski to the minors to develop. dont expect greatness out of scrivens at the nhl level. oil get a free shot at the type of player they need but he probably wont pan out.

I don't get all the hate for Kasian. He got high on coke and was involved in a vehicular collision in which he was not driving. He's probably not even a real addict and is just doing the rehab to appease the NHL. Not all coke users are addicts that like saying all drinkers are alcoholics. In the end he's just a poopty hockey player. The drug use is a non story.
- flamminghead

yeah and besides, cocaine is a hell of a drug! not combined woth alcohol though it doesnt really impair judgement like a hallucinagenic drug. hold on... time for a line.

much better, where was i was i talking about drugs ir hockey or drugs or hockey or holy words per minute. lets talk about hockey its agreat sport i like watchimg hockey and pkaying hockey and hitting people with a weapon during a sanctioned sporting event hockey is great. so is cocaine

yeah and besides, cocaine is a hell of a drug! not combined woth alcohol though it doesnt really impair judgement like a hallucinagenic drug. hold on... time for a line.

much better, where was i was i talking about drugs ir hockey or drugs or hockey or holy words per minute. lets talk about hockey its agreat sport i like watchimg hockey and pkaying hockey and hitting people with a weapon during a sanctioned sporting event hockey is great. so is cocaine
- Allan Bester

Haha....We used to write our great ideas down when we were all coked up...It read pretty much the same as that.

Montreal wins juat from the cap space they gained.
- flamminghead

0?

0?
- TheNugeIsHuge

Math is hard for some of these mental midgets...

I don't get all the hate for Kasian. He got high on coke and was involved in a vehicular collision in which he was not driving. He's probably not even a real addict and is just doing the rehab to appease the NHL. Not all coke users are addicts that like saying all drinkers are alcoholics. In the end he's just a poopty hockey player. The drug use is a non story.
- flamminghead

Agree just because someone likes coke n booze dosn't mean he is addict, but if you get in car with others who also have been using, it makes you a Richard. I wonder too about this rehab, I have worked at places where when someone messed up bad the union would tell the person to get on antibuse or sign up for rehab whether they really had a problem or not.

Agree just because someone likes coke n booze dosn't mean he is addict, but if you get in car with others who also have been using, it makes you a Richard. I wonder too about this rehab, I have worked at places where when someone messed up bad the union would tell the person to get on antibuse or sign up for rehab whether they really had a problem or not.
- HamiltonHawk

There's a legal piece to that too...if you're on your last legs at a job, especially in Canada, all you have to do is tell HR you have a problem with the nose candy and you got a 6 week paid vacation, and an extra 3 months of (frank)ing the dog as long as you go through the program. You're basically bullet proof from termination, or not at least with a healthy severance.

Not when they blame taking drugs on a "sickness"
- mrn22

Oh absolutely. Especially those that inherit this "sickness". Those are the worst kind of excuse makers.

Scrivens is not replacing Condon, he's replacing Tokarski--and that's an improvement. Otherwise, he's a non-factor. As for Kassian, I would have liked to have seen him get a shot with the Habs--he's the kind of player the team could use (size and some skills). However, I never expected him to stick around past this season anyway, so if he can get on track in Edmonton, more power to him.

As for all the idiots who think there is no illness aspect to addiction--pick up a book or two and learn something. No one is saying there is zero personal responsibility on the part of the individual, but to deny the illness aspect is, simply to deny reality. Addiction is a complex condition with many factors, not a "character defect". And anyone with a basic understanding of genetics (I know, it's a hard concept) knows there is an inheritability factor when it comes to addiction.