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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Evander Kane addresses allegations. Sabres prepare for Caps.
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Dec 29 @ 10:29 AM ET
What am I thinking? He's rich and famous. Normal rules of decency don't apply to people like him. He should be able to do whatever he wants.
- SabresPanacea


I would wager more "normal" people do this daily than famous people...
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 29 @ 10:32 AM ET
I would wager more "normal" people do this daily than famous people...
- stashu


Right? I said yesterday, I'm not passing any judgment or forming any opinions on this until all is said and done. And that could be months from now.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 29 @ 10:36 AM ET
Right? I said yesterday, I'm not passing any judgment or forming any opinions on this until all is said and done. And that could be months from now.
- HonkFortheGoose

once a cheat, always a cheat
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 29 @ 10:41 AM ET

- BuffaloHardHat



SabresPanacea
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.16.2014

Dec 29 @ 10:43 AM ET
And you know his relationship status? Confirmed?
- Maximum Signal

Every offense intended...after the other night, you don't warrant a response.
SabresPanacea
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.16.2014

Dec 29 @ 10:46 AM ET
I don't care who does it. It doesn't make it right. Keep justifying away all Kane's warts. I expect nothing less.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 29 @ 10:50 AM ET
I don't care who does it. It doesn't make it right. Keep justifying away all Kane's warts. I expect nothing less.
- SabresPanacea


Nobody has justified anything. I hope to hell that whatever happened isn't as bad as it seems like it could be. But none of us know for sure because none of us were there. Here in the US, it's innocent until proven guilty, so that's my stance on it. Until it's proven he did something, I'm going to continue to cheer for him because he's on my favorite team. I'm not going to burn the guy at the stake out of a knee jerk reaction.
SabresPanacea
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.16.2014

Dec 29 @ 11:08 AM ET
Nobody has justified anything. I hope to hell that whatever happened isn't as bad as it seems like it could be. But none of us know for sure because none of us were there. Here in the US, it's innocent until proven guilty, so that's my stance on it. Until it's proven he did something, I'm going to continue to cheer for him because he's on my favorite team. I'm not going to burn the guy at the stake out of a knee jerk reaction.
- HonkFortheGoose

See, the thing is. I am assuming he is innocent of the rape allegation. I am criticizing him for his character aside from the allegations. The fact that days after he tweets out pics of himself and his gf he is in bed with a women he doesn't even know well enouhh to be sure she won't allege rape. The fact that he is seen out at encore, wasted, after midnight on the eve of the chicago matinee game. The fact that wherever he goes, he ends up in the news. The fact that he should have known better after the PKane scandal only a gew months ago.

I am assuming he is innocent. I am not burning him at the stake for unproven allegations. I am criticizing everything else about him.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 29 @ 11:15 AM ET
What am I thinking? He's rich and famous. Normal rules of decency don't apply to people like him. He should be able to do whatever he wants.
- SabresPanacea

Easy there captain morals.

Your rules of human decency might not be the same as everyone else's. Or at least they aren't gonna harp on some young guy cheating on his girl over and over like you have.

How do You know what the real situation with his gf is? And why do any of us care?
either way, you're focusing on the wrong thing. It's none of our business who he bangs. Or what his relationship status is, especially if he's not married. The only important thing here is did he rape that girl or not.

Your lectures on moral decency come off as out of touch, preachy and biased. Kinda like something similar may have happened to you and you're upset about it.
Thing is, no one cares about your moral compass or your bias and no one likes when people tell Them what's right and what's not.

This probably came off a little harsher than intended, apologies. But your posts just Reminded me of one of those bible thumpers pushing their morals on the rest of us.
You're welcome to boo him for being a cheater, but most of us don't actually care about that and we also think it's normal for a 20 something millionaire to go clubbing and get laid.
Again, the only thing that matters is if he raped her or not
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 29 @ 11:20 AM ET
Easy there captain morals.

Your rules of human decency might not be the same as everyone else's. Or at least they aren't gonna harp on some young guy cheating on his girl over and over like you have.

How do You know what the real situation with his gf is? And why do you care?
either way, you're focusing on the wrong thing. It's none of our business who he bangs. Or what his relationship status is, especially if he's not married. The only important thing here is did he rape or not.

Your lectures on moral decency come off as out of touch, preachy and biased like something similar may have happens to you.
Thing is, no one cares about your moral compass or your bias.

This probably came off a little harsher than intended, apologies. But your posts just Reminded me of one of those bible thumpers pushing their morals on the rest of us.
You're welcome to boo him for being a cheater, but most of us don't actually care about that and we also think it's normal for a 20 something millionaire to go clubbing and get laid.
Again, the only thing that matters is if he raped her or not

- HB77


Well, actually, on a hockey chat board, it's probably pretty relevant if its also true that a professional hockey player might have been out drunk after midnight on the day of a game - much less a matinee.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 29 @ 11:26 AM ET
McCabe/Bogosian were great last night


Larsson looks like a completely different (better) player when he's at centre instead of wing.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
Well, actually, on a hockey chat board, it's probably pretty relevant if its also true that a professional hockey player might have been out drunk after midnight on the day of a game - much less a matinee.
- Der Kaiser


You're entitled to want your players to be boyscouts. Just don't be shocked when they turn out not to be.

and what's relevant ? He cheated so he might be a rapist?
Is this a joke?

Of course Management can have certain expectations from the player they pay millions to. But the whole moral police thing is brutal.
No one cares what YOUR moral values are. Much less appreciate when u try and pish them on us.

Hence most of the replies to panaceas thoughts..
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 29 @ 11:35 AM ET
I don't care who does it. It doesn't make it right. Keep justifying away all Kane's warts. I expect nothing less.
- SabresPanacea

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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 29 @ 11:37 AM ET
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- homiedclown

He/she needs to stay up on their pulpit. It's much muddier down here with the rest of us evil doers
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 29 @ 11:44 AM ET
See, the thing is. I am assuming he is innocent of the rape allegation. I am criticizing him for his character aside from the allegations. The fact that days after he tweets out pics of himself and his gf he is in bed with a women he doesn't even know well enouhh to be sure she won't allege rape. The fact that he is seen out at encore, wasted, after midnight on the eve of the chicago matinee game. The fact that wherever he goes, he ends up in the news. The fact that he should have known better after the PKane scandal only a gew months ago.

I am assuming he is innocent. I am not burning him at the stake for unproven allegations. I am criticizing everything else about him.

- SabresPanacea


Fair enough. I don't use twitter, so I don't know many of these "dirty" details of their lives.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Dec 29 @ 12:10 PM ET
Can someone explain to me who the old guy in the Star Wars movie is the first scene
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 29 @ 12:13 PM ET
You're entitled to want your players to be boyscouts. Just don't be shocked when they turn out not to be.

and what's relevant ? He cheated so he might be a rapist?
Is this a joke?

Of course Management can have certain expectations from the player they pay millions to. But the whole moral police thing is brutal.
No one cares what YOUR moral values are. Much less appreciate when u try and pish them on us.

Hence most of the replies to panaceas thoughts..

- HB77


Take a few deep breaths and focus, cowboy. I'm not saying anything about cheating, rape, or any morality.

I'm saying a professional athlete shouldn't show up to a game (or practice) with his ability to perform physically impaired by a hangover (or any other physical or mental impediment caused by the athlete's voluntary behavior).

That's why I limited my comment to the suggestion that he was out wasted in a club after midnight before a matinee game.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 29 @ 12:24 PM ET
Take a few deep breaths and focus, cowboy. I'm not saying anything about cheating, rape, or any morality.

I'm saying a professional athlete shouldn't show up to a game (or practice) with his ability to perform physically impaired by a hangover (or any other physical or mental impediment caused by the athlete's voluntary behavior).

That's why I limited my comment to the suggestion that he was out wasted in a club after midnight before a matinee game.

- Der Kaiser

Ok cowboy, ill do that. Cause my retort to you was so over the top and irrational that I must be losing it right?

Anyway, as I said, I agree that there can be some basic expectations from players that are getting paid millions. But then what if he's not impaired and scores a hat trick, is it ok then? Just think it opens another can of worms. Either way, that wasnt really the point originally
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Dec 30 @ 11:28 AM ET
once a cheat, always a cheat
- homiedclown

Disagree... Wait, nope agreed.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Dec 30 @ 11:31 AM ET
Can someone explain to me who the old guy in the Star Wars movie is the first scene
- gerbe75pts

I still haven't figured it out...
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