Dominate like other superstars have . He has played well but he has not dominated.
- Maximum Signal

I'm not trying to start anything but have you watched him play?

They might waive....why wouldn't they?
- Jeropotato

They're probably scared they're going to be waved to the minors in a year like they should be

Just checked, he's making 2.95 on this deal. A slight raise of 4 million a year will get it done. three years 4 million a year. He's more than a seven forward on this team. I doubt Murray does a lot of heavy UFA spending this off season meaning he's still a top six guy on our team.
- bluengold12

If that's your idea of a slight raise can I come work for you?

All kidding aside, that's about what he's worth. Maybe 4 for 4, That'll take him to 31., but look at Moulson and Gionta, skills degrade fast. Although what's maddening about Gionta is all of a sudden he'll come out of no where looking like he was shot out of a cannon, so you know he's capable of it, at least intermittently, but I've only seen that a handful of times this year, and I've seen all but about 30 minutes of the season so far.

Front loaded so the cap hit is a little less in last 2 years. Plus it makes him attractive to trade if we are so inclined.
- Maximum Signal

Cap hit stays the same over the length of the deal. It isn't the NFL. His salary can go down though, but only 10% year over year and the last year can't be any less than 50% of the maximum salary, or the cap hit I can't remember which, so there're no more Keith, Hossa, Pronger, Kovalchuk deals anymore where they pay the guy the league minimum over the last 3 years when they know he won't play anyway, just so they can get the cap hit down and give him all the money up front.

Both have roots in this area. And seemingly came here to end their careers.
- Maximum Signal

Bah....everyone wants a shot a Stanley.

Bah....everyone wants a shot a Stanley.
- Jeropotato

You can have them both for a second round pick that's a good deal 2 for 1

I'm not trying to start anything but have you watched him play?
- gerbe75pts

Yes , good but not dominating. Have already stated this.

Cap hit stays the same over the length of the deal. It isn't the NFL. His salary can go down though, but only 10% year over year and the last year can't be any less than 50% of the maximum salary, or the cap hit I can't remember which, so there're no more Keith, Hossa, Pronger, Kovalchuk deals anymore where they pay the guy the league minimum over the last 3 years when they know he won't play anyway, just so they can get the cap hit down and give him all the money up front.
- Wetbandit1

I was thinking 4.6 . 4.15 . 3.7 3.35. Come that 3rd and 4th year we will need every cent

You can have them both for a second round pick that's a good deal 2 for 1
- gerbe75pts

Yeah, we're real close to championship.

That's arguably the best team in the league we just played. There two breakdowns, and one bad hop. If we could only get the power play to click ... Or get ANYbody that can play alongside Eichel.

Still learning. Still not halfway through this season ...

Which one of you nuts has got any guts?

Bah....everyone wants a shot a Stanley.
- Jeropotato

I thought Gionta had one . And I don't know if it matters to Moulson

So apparently what people know of the Evander situation is most of the story. Her story that got to the media is the same one she's told everyone. The girl supposedly doesn't want to cause problems for Kane, but also can't really remember what happened.

That's arguably the best team in the league we just played. There two breakdowns, and one bad hop. If we could only get the power play to click ... Or get ANYbody that can play alongside Eichel.

Still learning. Still not halfway through this season ...

Which one of you nuts has got any guts?
- Der Kaiser

I wish . I will be happy with 80 points this year.

So apparently what people know of the Evander situation is most of the story. Her story that got to the media is the same one she's told everyone. The girl supposedly doesn't want to cause problems for Kane, but also can't really remember what happened.
- Buffalo--Sabres

I take it she was underage drinking then . A little trashed?

If him and ROR are as tight as people say maybe that works in our favor. Wishful thinking I guess.
- Maximum Signal

His family brother ties (Arizona & Carolina) plus his Toronto, Ontario roots will all come into question for him, I think those trump his ROR friendship. McGinn has been traded twice already (has lots of ex-teammates "Boys") so I think he goes more the family and friends route if he does hit open market.

So staying in Buffalo is a reality if the price is right, but wouldn't be shocked to see him in Ottawa or Toronto either.

So apparently what people know of the Evander situation is most of the story. Her story that got to the media is the same one she's told everyone. The girl supposedly doesn't want to cause problems for Kane, but also can't really remember what happened.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Usually, when I'm not trying to cause problems for people, I don't call law enforcement personnel.

So apparently what people know of the Evander situation is most of the story. Her story that got to the media is the same one she's told everyone. The girl supposedly doesn't want to cause problems for Kane, but also can't really remember what happened.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Doesn't sound like there's much a story here.

I take it she was underage drinking then . A little trashed?
- Maximum Signal

Intoxicated, most likely. In what form I have no idea. Her encounter required a visit to the hospital afterwards. She took some heavy damage to the point where the hospital staff, by law, pressed her about WTF happened to her. Let me say it's the type of damage I don't think Gionta or Ennis could have inflicted, if you know what I mean.

Doesn't sound like there's much a story here.
- Jeropotato

Mara Tiegen disagrees.

Mara Tiegen disagrees.
- Der Kaiser

His family brother ties (Arizona & Carolina) plus his Toronto, Ontario roots will all come into question for him, I think those trump his ROR friendship. McGinn has been traded twice already (has lots of ex-teammates "Boys") so I think he goes more the family and friends route if he does hit open market.

So staying in Buffalo is a reality if the price is right, but wouldn't be shocked to see him in Ottawa or Toronto either.
- DDM-Coga

We are 75 minutes from TO without the high cost of living . A 350,00 house in Amherst is a 1.5 to 2 million dollar house in Toronto. Believe me I have lived in Both . I prefer Buffalo. That is why we have a lot of NHL retirees here.

Intoxicated, most likely. In what form I have no idea. Her encounter required a visit to the hospital afterwards. She took some heavy damage to the point where the hospital staff, by law, pressed her about WTF happened to her. Let me say it's the type of damage I don't think Gionta or Ennis could have inflicted, if you know what I mean.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Intoxicated, most likely. In what form I have no idea. Her encounter required a visit to the hospital afterwards. She took some heavy damage to the point where the hospital staff, by law, pressed her about WTF happened to her. Let me say it's the type of damage I don't think Gionta or Ennis could have inflicted, if you know what I mean.
- Buffalo--Sabres

He has a crippler I take it . That is what we used to Call Tommy's the 6 years I worked for Motley. LOL

Murray wanted McGinn in with the deal so I really think there'll be no doubt on contract negotiations.

But, the real question will be, has Chad Johnsons steady play made him a tradable asset at the deadline? Lehner will be back, so he stays, plus what we gave up for him, sheesh. Ullmark will back Lehner up, there is no room for him in Rochester unless they send either Mak or Lew to Elimira. Johnson's contract is up so he's out and won't be renewed.

He has a crippler I take it . That is what we used to Call Tommy's the 6 years I worked for Motley. LOL
- Maximum Signal

Yeah likely a crippler

Dang you worked for Motely Crue? You just went way up in my book. How about Lemmy dying today?

You know I'm born to lose and gambling's for fools
But that's the way I like it, baby
I don't wanna live for ever