I already did. It is a future cap number cause performance bonuses do not have to be on this years cap. You are suggesting they need to comply with a certain number to activate Streit while accounting for performance bonuses from Ghost and Laughton
- YuenglingJagr

That is incorrect on both counts.

In all seriousness.. If the Jackets were to try to move him at the deadline, dont you think they would be able to get at least a 2nd rounder?
- jak521

Not certain. Really. Based on his play, then yeah, definitely. But the future cap implications have caused other deals to be tweaked.

Look at Kessel. He's 28. He's 5th in the NHL in goals scored over the past 6 years and he did that with Tyler Bozak as his primary center.

The Leafs had to add in a former 1st round pick, a well traveled but skilled defenseman and a 2nd rounder to get a 1st, 3rd and two prospects for him...and they had to eat cash for 7 more years

agreed. I understood Lindros because of his injuries and the ridiculous season Selanne had.
- nastyflyergirl

Lindros definitely didn't deserve to win over Selanne. I think Renberg deserved more consideration after his great rookie year.

Do you think that was because he was a Flyer?
- MJL

it was because the winner was a Ranger

That is incorrect on both counts.
- MJL

okay dude....here I will make it easier for you. You are using NHL numbers. 1.131 is not the cap number for Ghost and 1.076 is not the cap number for Laughton.

- Mononoke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHMj2hZ19A4

watching alot of the out of town feeds the Flyers organization is still hated around the league

okay dude....here I will make it easier for you. You are using NHL numbers. 1.131 is not the cap number for Ghost and 1.076 is not the cap number for Laughton.
- YuenglingJagr

NHL numbers says it is, if they're wrong, take it up with them. Let me say one thing. I've been dealing with the cap since it came out. I was one of the first posters to truly understand how the cap works. One thing I've learned is, that there are a lot of quirks to the cap, that are sometimes not clear. I've learned not to question those, and just go with the information given. It's there for a reason.
You're making a lot of assumptions here, as to what I know and what I'm using. Such as insinuating that I don't understand the bonus cushion. Not the case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHMj2hZ19A4
- Feanor

That is too precious. Plays exactly the same as back then.

Only 89 views? Pretty hidden video right there.

Thanks, man. I needed that
- missingmike

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- bmeltzer

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NHL numbers says it is, if they're wrong, take it up with them. Let me say one thing. I've been dealing with the cap since it came out. I was one of the first posters to truly understand how the cap works. One thing I've learned is, that there are a lot of quirks to the cap, that are sometimes not clear. I've learned not to question those, and just go with the information given. It's there for a reason.
You're making a lot of assumptions here, as to what I know and what I'm using. Such as insinuating that I don't understand the bonus cushion. Not the case.
- MJL

Don't let modesty get in your way...

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- Nucker101

BANNED!

NHL numbers says it is, if they're wrong, take it up with them. Let me say one thing. I've been dealing with the cap since it came out. I was one of the first posters to truly understand how the cap works. One thing I've learned is, that there are a lot of quirks to the cap, that are sometimes not clear. I've learned not to question those, and just go with the information given. It's there for a reason.
You're making a lot of assumptions here, as to what I know and what I'm using. Such as insinuating that I don't understand the bonus cushion. Not the case.
- MJL

Well I am new and I understand it. I am not suggesting you dont understand the bonus cushion...but I am saying that you are using the numbers on NHL numbers incorrectly. Those numbers are the cap hits the Flyers will have to account for at the end of the season, but not right now in the present day. In other words, adding up the numbers there will NOT give you the exact amount of space the Flyers need to clear in order to bring up Streit as you have suggested. If you are using them and they are wrong, then you are wrong.

That is simply my understanding of the way it works. I am not guaranteeing it, i dont work for the NHL, or NHLPA, or the Flyers, or anyone that is associated with them. I just find the stuff generally interesting, and I, like others on here, wanted to discuss the situation and try to figure it out.

Don't let modesty get in your way...
- wolfhounds

That's tombstone epitaph worthy.

Not certain. Really. Based on his play, then yeah, definitely. But the future cap implications have caused other deals to be tweaked.
- Jsaquella

Yeah, don't expect many guys w/ a lot of term to get moved during the season, especially not for picks/prospects. Gotta be money retained/money going back to make anything happen with all the uncertainties surrounding future cap growth.

NHL numbers says it is, if they're wrong, take it up with them. Let me say one thing. I've been dealing with the cap since it came out. I was one of the first posters to truly understand how the cap works. One thing I've learned is, that there are a lot of quirks to the cap, that are sometimes not clear. I've learned not to question those, and just go with the information given. It's there for a reason.
You're making a lot of assumptions here, as to what I know and what I'm using. Such as insinuating that I don't understand the bonus cushion. Not the case.
- MJL

well as long as you truly understand it all is well with me.

Yeah, don't expect many guys w/ a lot of term to get moved during the season, especially not for picks/prospects. Gotta be money retained/money going back to make anything happen with all the uncertainties surrounding future cap growth.
- Tomahawk

Maybe if the Jackets ate $1.5-$2mm per year of the remainder....but given the Horton-Clarkson trade, I'm betting they would not be eager to eat money.

Maybe if the Jackets ate $1.5-$2mm per year of the remainder....but given the Horton-Clarkson trade, I'm betting they would not be eager to eat money.
- Jsaquella

Hexy was really smart to move Hartsy when he did... another season or so and he wouldn't have been able to get it done.

Lindros definitely didn't deserve to win over Selanne. I think Renberg deserved more consideration after his great rookie year.
- Jsaquella

Almost no chance 88 beats out selanne for calder, renberg was the best first year player in 93/94.

Edit: even if lindros played a full season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHMj2hZ19A4
- Feanor

He still had his teeth at 12. Little did he know then....

Hexy was really smart to move Hartsy when he did... another season or so and he wouldn't have been able to get it done.
- Tomahawk

based on what exactly?

NHL numbers says it is, if they're wrong, take it up with them. Let me say one thing. I've been dealing with the cap since it came out. I was one of the first posters to truly understand how the cap works. One thing I've learned is, that there are a lot of quirks to the cap, that are sometimes not clear. I've learned not to question those, and just go with the information given. It's there for a reason.
You're making a lot of assumptions here, as to what I know and what I'm using. Such as insinuating that I don't understand the bonus cushion. Not the case.
- MJL

I am going to go beyond insinuation and flat-out state that you do not understand the bonus cushion

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- Nucker101

Go have an abortion

Go have an abortion
- PhillySportsGuy

You promised me that we could keep this one.