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twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Dec 22 @ 11:47 AM ET
How about a Hart or Selke Trophy?
- MJL



Clarke won both, lindros won Hart also. No art Ross or rocket Richard though.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Dec 22 @ 11:54 AM ET
The Ghost callup has absolutely transformed this team. Ghost is green and raw and makes his share of defensive miscues but you can see him learn from each game. He's trying new things, stepping up, breaking up plays and still has his offensive side of the puck game on lock.

Sending him back to the A is laughable.

Jake should of had a hattrick last night. He really needs shooting practice.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Dec 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
Selke:

Clarke in 82-83
Poulin in 86-87
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 22 @ 12:11 PM ET
But we've be reassured over and over again that the Flyers cap issues are overblown, if the Flyers have to send down a player making 925k due to a money decision what does that tell you?
- PLindbergh31


Flyers cap situation sucks. I didn't think that was a secret with nearly $10mm in the pressbox and the AHL.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 22 @ 12:13 PM ET
The Ghost callup has absolutely transformed this team. Ghost is green and raw and makes his share of defensive miscues but you can see him learn from each game. He's trying new things, stepping up, breaking up plays and still has his offensive side of the puck game on lock.

Sending him back to the A is laughable.

Jake should of had a hattrick last night. He really needs shooting practice.

- Pixote Andolini


Just as long as he doesn't try any more open ice hip checks...
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 22 @ 12:14 PM ET
"That whole sequence when Voracek got the roughing was ridiculous. The fact that Jake got the only penalty (and probably had the last to do with it) followed by the non-call on Parayko's hit to Umberger's head was horrible."

The officiating is just awful this year! I'm not sure if it's the league mandating how the games are called, or just incompetence by the officials! This brings up another point......PLEASE GET RID OF THE DAMN INSTIGATOR RULE!!! When I was kid, if someone took liberties with one of my brothers, I beat the hell out of them! Funny, but they didn't do it again. Somehow, it's the only language some people understand. You don't need to be a thug to take care of business. Back in the day, that's how your premier players were protected. Now we have to rely on a league that subjectively applies stupid rules!!! DUMB policy!!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 22 @ 12:15 PM ET
Flyers cap situation sucks. I didn't think that was a secret with nearly $10mm in the pressbox and the AHL.
- wolfhounds


Hexy's been able to offset that somewhat w/ tremendous value for dollar from MDZ, Ghost, and Neuvirth. Gudas is playing well above his pay grade too. Jake still being $4.25M also is pretty nice.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Dec 22 @ 12:19 PM ET
The Ghost callup has absolutely transformed this team. Ghost is green and raw and makes his share of defensive miscues but you can see him learn from each game. He's trying new things, stepping up, breaking up plays and still has his offensive side of the puck game on lock.

Sending him back to the A is laughable.

Jake should of had a hattrick last night. He really needs shooting practice.

- Pixote Andolini


Personally think it'd be a mistake to send ghost back down. He's doing well, making mistakes and learning from them, he looks confident. And the flyers as a whole have played better since his callup. I don't think it'd be detrimental to him or his development to send him back down, but I do think he'd benefit more so from staying with the big boys.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 22 @ 12:21 PM ET
Hexy's been able to offset that somewhat w/ tremendous value for dollar from MDZ, Ghost, and Neuvirth. Gudas is playing well above his pay grade too. Jake still being $4.25M also is pretty nice.
- Tomahawk


Yup, can't argue with the job Hexy has done to date. And things will loosen up a bit financially just as a few more prospects are ready (hopefully) to make the jump to the NHL. And with the Flyers playing better than expected this season with a patchwork D and a few bad/unmovable contracts, enduring this season has become a lot more enjoyable.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 22 @ 12:40 PM ET
Yup, can't argue with the job Hexy has done to date. And things will loosen up a bit financially just as a few more prospects are ready (hopefully) to make the jump to the NHL. And with the Flyers playing better than expected this season with a patchwork D and a few bad/unmovable contracts, enduring this season has become a lot more enjoyable.
- wolfhounds


Yes it has. Although some would argue that it'd be better to finish as a lottery team, I think we're better off getting the young guys playoff race experience if not playoff experience.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 22 @ 12:49 PM ET
Yup, can't argue with the job Hexy has done to date. And things will loosen up a bit financially just as a few more prospects are ready (hopefully) to make the jump to the NHL. And with the Flyers playing better than expected this season with a patchwork D and a few bad/unmovable contracts, enduring this season has become a lot more enjoyable.
- wolfhounds


Hexy also shed a good $5mm in Pronger which helps.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Dec 22 @ 12:51 PM ET
Hexy's been able to offset that somewhat w/ tremendous value for dollar from MDZ, Ghost, and Neuvirth. Gudas is playing well above his pay grade too. Jake still being $4.25M also is pretty nice.
- Tomahawk


Medvedev in my opinion too.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 22 @ 12:52 PM ET
Yes it has. Although some would argue that it'd be better to finish as a lottery team, I think we're better off getting the young guys playoff race experience if not playoff experience.
- Hextall271

I think that it's good to let them finish where they may and base trade decisions on realistic expectations.

If you're squeaking in as a wildcard with a slew of kids, might be a good idea not to trade picks for a depth guy. Of course if you're at that stage at the TDL, you might want to keep a vet like Streit.

At the very least they're an entertaining team with a bright future and who could make some noise this year if they keep it up.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Dec 22 @ 12:55 PM ET
Medvedev's post game interview:
This interview was taken after the "Blues" game on 12/21/15.

The link: http://spb.sovsport.ru/gazeta/article-item/869485

My translation:

Post- game interview with Evgeni Medvedev
By Nataliya Bragilevskaya for Sovsport.ru

NB: Flyers were losing 0:3. How did you manage to pull this win?

EM: We were losing last game 0:2 too, but managed to get even up and lost by penalty shots, That speaks to the character of this team. We have a back bone, and I expect only better things moving forward. We have to start playing better from the beginning of the game. It’s difficult to salvage every game like this. We waste too much energy doing that.

NB: You were very emotional after you scored a winning goal.

EM: It has accumulated. I had made plenty of mistakes before, it’s time to improve. I can’t say that I have completely acclimated to the pace of the game yet. But I am trying to improve with every game. As for emotions, it did feel great! I am very happy that the team won, I am thankful to my partners for affording me such a chance. And please understand- that was my first game winning goal in the NHL. I am very happy that we overcame 0:3 score.

NB: What mistakes are you talking about?

EM: I had had them before this game.

NB: You joined the attack because you saw an opening in “Blues” defense, didn’t you?

EM: They gave me the opportunity. I had open space, open ice. I acted according to the situation. I was waiting for the pass from White, saw that the goalie moved forward and elevated the puck.

NB: You did not have a good beginning of the season. You had missed a few games being a healthy scratch. Do you feel that you have already adapted to the North American hockey?

EM: Yes, I can confidently say that I have completely acclimated to the game. The coaches help me with agility training. I manage.

NB: Was it difficult psychologically to be in a press box?

EM: It was a good experience for me. I studied the game from above. I studied video, evaluated my mistakes and shortcomings. I also evaluated my strengths and what I needed to capitalize on. I do not regret anything. It’s even better that it has happened that way. I have benefited from that.

NB: Did your previous experience playing with Tarasenko help you in this game?

EM: We only played together on the national team. I know well his qualities. I tried to play very meticulously against him. He has a very good shot. It’s very quick and sudden. I did my best to minimize a number of these shots.

NB: This is you first NHL season. Is it difficult to play against completely unfamiliar team?

EM: We have meetings before each and every game. We watch a video. The coaches explain plan of the game to us, tell us strength of the opposition players. I pay attention and try to be focused playing against these players.

NB: 3 day Christmas brake is coming.

EM: It’s good for me. I will have some time to rest, to spend with my family at home. I am confused- it’s Christmas time, but it’s 20 degrees outside (70 F). I have not ever celebrated Christmas in t-shirt.

EM: What are your Christmas wishes for yourself?

EM: Patience and luck.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 22 @ 12:58 PM ET
Selke:

Clarke in 82-83
Poulin in 86-87

- Pixote Andolini

Closest they ever came to the Norris was Mark Howe finishing second a couple of times. Reggie Leach led the league in goals in 75-76, but there was no trophy for that then. The closest they ever came to the Art Ross was in 94-95 when Lindros lost it to Jagr on a tiebreaker (more goals).

The other major awards won by a Flyers:
Hart
72-73 Clarke
74-75 Clarke
75-76 Clarke
94-95 Lindros

Vezina
73-74 Parent
74-75 Parent
84-85 Lindbergh
86-87 Hextall

Smythe
73-74 Parent
74-75 Parent
75-76 Leach
86-87 Hextall

hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Dec 22 @ 12:59 PM ET
Closest they ever came to the Norris was Mark Howe finishing second a couple of times. Reggie Leach led the league in goals in 75-76, but there was no trophy for that then. The closest they ever came to the Art Ross was in 94-95 when Lindros lost it to Jagr on a tiebreaker (more goals).

The other major awards won by a Flyers:
Hart
72-73 Clarke
74-75 Clarke
75-76 Clarke
94-95 Lindros

Vezina
73-74 Parent
74-75 Parent
84-85 Lindbergh
86-87 Hextall

Smythe
73-74 Parent
74-75 Parent
75-76 Leach
86-87 Hextall

- BiggE


Hextall should have won the Calder in 87 too.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 22 @ 12:59 PM ET
Thanks for posting that Medvedev interview!
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Dec 22 @ 1:04 PM ET
Flyers cap situation sucks. I didn't think that was a secret with nearly $10mm in the pressbox and the AHL.
- wolfhounds

more than 10mm...gagner, vinny, amac, and umbegrer......good lord that is comical
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 22 @ 1:06 PM ET
Of course they do. A player could be sent down, more players called up, it just all has to add up at the end of the year.
- MJL


THat is the reason why I am wondering why the 893k became the number they had to clear. I do not see how that is the case if they can remain cap compliant on a daily level by waiving manning
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 22 @ 1:07 PM ET
Hextall should have won the Calder in 87 too.
- hockeylover

Correct, Barber as well in 73. (frank) you Steve Vickers, you Ranger piece of poop!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 22 @ 1:07 PM ET

My translation:

- missingmike


Our russian correspondent
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 22 @ 1:09 PM ET
Correct, Barber as well in 73. (frank) you Steve Vickers, you Ranger piece of poop!
- BiggE


Both times, they lost to players in bigger (but not necessarily better) markets.

Hextall lost to Luc Robitaille, who was a Hall of Famer, so it's not nearly as bad as Steve (frank)ing Vickers.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 22 @ 1:09 PM ET
Hexy's been able to offset that somewhat w/ tremendous value for dollar from MDZ, Ghost, and Neuvirth. Gudas is playing well above his pay grade too. Jake still being $4.25M also is pretty nice.
- Tomahawk


And Giroux :D
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 22 @ 1:13 PM ET
You are a Bruins fan now aren't you? Rinaldo's energy and all!
- PLindbergh31


Well played, good comeback!!

No I am not a Rinaldo fan because he ended up hurting the team.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 22 @ 1:14 PM ET
How about a Hart or Selke Trophy?
- MJL



I think that was directed to the fact that the Flyers have had really good rookies but they have never won the Calder.
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