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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 18 @ 2:27 PM ET
Being fair I'm pretty excited seeing Couturier gain some confidence and producing with better wingers on this team. We can all go back and forth over what he is or isn't but what cant be argued is that he a young though experienced great defensive center that it would help the team if he could produce more. Looks like he is doing that right now and I think it is a good thing going forward.

Additionally overall I am pretty happy with the job Hakstol is doing. He has made some rookie coaching choices that maybe didn't make sense but I think he is navigating his first season pretty well and has the the team moving forward. It doesnt hurt that i think this may be Giroux's most complete season to date..G is doing everything right now and I am 100% glad he is our captain.

Finally having a taste with Ghost I can't remember the last time I was this excited about the Flyers future prospects. Hopefully that future starts in earnest next seasons.

- opeth_pa


Agree.

I also like that while Gositsbehere is dynamic and exciting he isn't even our best prospect really. I am excited to see Provorov and Sanheim.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 18 @ 2:29 PM ET
He was physical. He wasn't punishing and didn't throw thundering checks, but he was very physical.

Edit: For that matter, aside from the hits on Toews and Kane, Pronger didn't throw many huge hits during his time here (yeah, I could check youtube for clips to show a few, too) but he was considered extremely physical.

- jmatchett383

Heres a perfect example (imo).

The Couts line from last night put on one of the most physically dominating performances i have seen in a long time. They are so difficult to move off the puck, move from in front of the net, and even harder to beat in wall battles. Watching them work together makes me tired for the other team.

I dont remember any of them throwing a huge hit either. Physicality isnt limited to just huge hits. Certainly can be a part of it, but so also can physical positioning, physical puck possession, etc.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 18 @ 2:29 PM ET
Agree.

I also like that while Gositsbehere is dynamic and exciting he isn't even our best prospect really. I am excited to see Provorov and Sanheim.

- J35Bacher


I think Ghost will be the most dynamic/exciting of the group. I see the other 2 being much more well-rounded.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 18 @ 2:30 PM ET
Heres a perfect example (imo).

The Couts line from last night put on one of the most physically dominating performances i have seen in a long time. They are so difficult to move off the puck, move from in front of the net, and even harder to beat in wall battles.

I dont remember any of them throwing a huge hit either. Physicality isnt limited to just huge hits. Certainly can be a part of it, but so also can physical positioning, physical puck possession, etc.

- jak521


Try getting the puck off of Jagr's stick, even at his advanced age. He's far from what you would traditionally call "physical", but he's a bear to move off of the puck once he has it.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 18 @ 2:33 PM ET
Pronger had (I believe) 1 fight here. But you are right, forwards preferred to let him go into the corner first. Still, he had one huge hit on Tavares (I think) and otherwise wasn't known for laying the boom here. Still, he was considered "physical."
- jmatchett383



See I don't think of Pronger as physical. Words mean and nasty come to my mind. He would cheap shot and stick you. Always made you keep aware because he could put a two hander on your wrists.


PLust he just didn't care what players thought of him. He was an equal opportunity cross checker.

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 18 @ 2:36 PM ET
I think Ghost will be the most dynamic/exciting of the group. I see the other 2 being much more well-rounded.
- jmatchett383



Yeah.

That's why I like the mix for the future if they are all here. Imagine the dynamic Gostisbehere playing with the mean SOB Morin. You could have a top pair of Provorov and Sanheim playing 25-27 minutes a night. Both well rounded to defend and also provide offense.

Fun to think about
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
Heres a perfect example (imo).

The Couts line from last night put on one of the most physically dominating performances i have seen in a long time. They are so difficult to move off the puck, move from in front of the net, and even harder to beat in wall battles. Watching them work together makes me tired for the other team.

I dont remember any of them throwing a huge hit either. Physicality isnt limited to just huge hits. Certainly can be a part of it, but so also can physical positioning, physical puck possession, etc.

- jak521


Physicality with and without the puck is something Laughton lacks at this point in his career, unfortunately, and I think it's a big reason his ice time has dropped so low. He just can't hang on to the puck well enough at the moment, and any idea we had that at 21 he could be the defensive 3C who gets hard minutes has gone out the window.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
According to Carchidi, though Luke is ready to return, Hak will probably stick with same lineup. Wouldn't it be absolutely perfect if Streit sits too over Manning and Schultz? It won't happen....we think.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 18 @ 2:43 PM ET
According to Carchidi, though Luke is ready to return, Hak will probably stick with same lineup. Wouldn't it be absolutely perfect if Streit sits too over Manning and Schultz? It won't happen....we think.
- Mononoke

why would that be perfect?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
Physicality with and without the puck is something Laughton lacks at this point in his career, unfortunately, and I think it's a big reason his ice time has dropped so low. He just can't hang on to the puck well enough at the moment, and any idea we had that at 21 he could be the defensive 3C who gets hard minutes has gone out the window.
- Feanor

I think he lacks the consistency needed. There are times where he plays really strong with the puck and also uses his speed. If he can put it all together he could be a very solid player.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 18 @ 2:48 PM ET
why would that be perfect?
- jak521


In a nightmarishly funny sort of way. Manning over Streit. Perfect trolling.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 18 @ 2:50 PM ET
Pronger had (I believe) 1 fight here. But you are right, forwards preferred to let him go into the corner first. Still, he had one huge hit on Tavares (I think) and otherwise wasn't known for laying the boom here. Still, he was considered "physical."
- jmatchett383


Pronger was more of the crosscheck you in the back so hard you split in two kind of physical than he was bone crunching hits skating across the middle.

I am not going to reveal what I searched on google, but this photo was deemed relevant

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 18 @ 2:52 PM ET
Pronger was more of the crosscheck you in the back so hard you split in two kind of physical than he was bone crunching hits skating across the middle.

I am not going to reveal what I searched on google, but this photo was deemed relevant


- YuenglingJagr


I'm guessing that was their entourage from Philly to the Olympic games.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Dec 18 @ 2:52 PM ET

- YuenglingJagr

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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 18 @ 2:55 PM ET
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- aightwebang17


The one on the right looks like the kind you dont bring home to mom
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 18 @ 2:56 PM ET
The one on the right looks like the kind you dont bring home to mom
- YuenglingJagr


Richie?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 18 @ 2:56 PM ET
Richie?
- Mononoke


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 18 @ 2:57 PM ET
The one on the right looks like the kind you dont bring home to mom
- YuenglingJagr


I'm sorry, but #4 does not belong.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 18 @ 2:58 PM ET

- YuenglingJagr


So you don't bring home the one on the right...but you'd bring home the one in the sweater-kini?

Mom must be chiiiiil
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 18 @ 2:59 PM ET
According to Carchidi, though Luke is ready to return, Hak will probably stick with same lineup.
- Mononoke


It wouldn't be the first time this season a dman went from playing on the top pairing in his last game to being a healthy scratch the next time he's available.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 18 @ 3:00 PM ET
It wouldn't be the first time this season a dman went from playing on the top pairing in his last game to being a healthy scratch the next time he's available.
- Feanor


His MO is don't change when the team is doing well. At least he's consistent
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 18 @ 3:08 PM ET
His MO is don't change when the team is doing well. At least he's consistent
- Mononoke


You could also say his Manning-boner is so strong it requires injections to go down.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 18 @ 3:09 PM ET
I'm sorry, but #4 does not belong.
- jmatchett383




jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 18 @ 3:10 PM ET
You could also say his Manning-boner is so strong it requires injections to go down.
- Feanor


No, that's the VDV boner.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 18 @ 3:13 PM ET
Pronger was more of the crosscheck you in the back so hard you split in two kind of physical than he was bone crunching hits skating across the middle.

I am not going to reveal what I searched on google, but this photo was deemed relevant


- YuenglingJagr


you spelled it "cross-chicked" didn't you?
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