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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 18 @ 12:29 PM ET

Edit: not laughing at your request, just the fact you said DVD... It's so 2006.

- JoeRussomanno


It is?!


What are the kids saying these days?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Dec 18 @ 12:31 PM ET
It is?!


What are the kids saying these days?

- Streit2ThePoint

Stream it off itunes.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 18 @ 12:41 PM ET
Well, by your definition it is. I don't think it's "slop" but it's probably not enough, either.
- jmatchett383



And I said it's probably not enough compared to what others can offer.

But Johansson is now a healthy scratch. Also he is being named a someone not in shape. I know his talent. I think it is more like Boston and Seguin then some do. Just saying when top guys get traded they don't always bring back what people think
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Dec 18 @ 12:45 PM ET
And I said it's probably not enough compared to what others can offer.

But Johansson is now a healthy scratch. Also he is being named a someone not in shape. I know his talent. I think it is more like Boston and Seguin then some do. Just saying when top guys get traded they don't always bring back what people think

- J35Bacher

him being scratched doesn't hurt his value at all imo....
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 18 @ 12:45 PM ET
It is?!


What are the kids saying these days?

- Streit2ThePoint

I think you're supposed to download it as a podcast or stream it on a youtube.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 18 @ 12:46 PM ET
Stream it off itunes.
- JoeRussomanno


JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Dec 18 @ 12:46 PM ET

- Streit2ThePoint

Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 18 @ 12:48 PM ET
John Scott on waivers, could impact his all star game.

https://allstarvote.nhl.com/en-us/LeaderBoard
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 18 @ 12:50 PM ET
him being scratched doesn't hurt his value at all imo....
- rinaldo



Doesn't make it better either.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 18 @ 12:52 PM ET
I think you're supposed to download it as a podcast or stream it on a youtube.
- BulliesPhan87


They are installing the internets onto the computers.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 18 @ 12:52 PM ET
Doesn't make it better either.
- J35Bacher


I think the contract dispute is the more worrying red flag.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Dec 18 @ 12:57 PM ET
Doesn't make it better either.
- J35Bacher

he will likely get a great return back. no matter what happens between now and when he is dealt.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 18 @ 1:00 PM ET
I think the contract dispute is the more worrying red flag.
- jmatchett383



He's an RFA after 2017-18.

I wouldn't be so worried as I would have to assume the the cap rising and money from some of the vets coming off the books. Actually might not be a bad year for him to come do for the flyers.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 18 @ 1:01 PM ET
I sense a great disturbance in the force.

Jk. What are we giving up for Nichhuskin today?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 18 @ 1:03 PM ET
Can't help but feel this team is on the verge of a downswing. The last couple wins, plus the stars game just leave a lot to be desired. I feel like the next 2-3 weeks could decide their fate. Can they keep up winning 2 out of 3 or will they fall back again.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 18 @ 1:03 PM ET
he will likely get a great return back. no matter what happens between now and when he is dealt.
- rinaldo



What do you see as great return?

Seguin brought back Eriksson, Smith, Morrow and Matt Fraser.

Rick Nash brought back Anisemov, Dubinksy, Erixon and 1st rounder.

I am just saying that these type of deals for star players don't always yield huge returns.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 18 @ 1:09 PM ET
Can't help but feel this team is on the verge of a downswing. The last couple wins, plus the stars game just leave a lot to be desired. I feel like the next 2-3 weeks could decide their fate. Can they keep up winning 2 out of 3 or will they fall back again.
- Just5


Seems about right...

The Flyers are 7-2-1 in their last 10 and then Hockeybuzzkill!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 18 @ 1:10 PM ET
Gotcha. Although I wonder if that's the case. I know I'd be very reluctant to trade him at this point in his development. He probably won't be another Chara/Pronger-type player, but it's way too early to know.
- wolfhounds


Based on his development curve so far, I imagine the probabilities for him are something like this:



Hoping for "Mean Coburn". Pronger is still a fantasy scenario.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Dec 18 @ 1:11 PM ET
What do you see as great return?

Seguin brought back Eriksson, Smith, Morrow and Matt Fraser.

Rick Nash brought back Anisemov, Dubinksy, Erixon and 1st rounder.

I am just saying that these type of deals for star players don't always yield huge returns.

- J35Bacher

I don't care about any deals boston made nor do I care about the nash deal. we are in the hear and now.

he is a 23 year old #1 center. you are going to have to give to get imo...if I am wrong I will gladly say so. maybe your right time will tell.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 18 @ 1:11 PM ET
John Scott on waivers, could impact his all star game.

https://allstarvote.nhl.com/en-us/LeaderBoard

- Streit2ThePoint


Can he show up in his AHL team's jersey or does he get demoted to the AHL all-star game?!?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 18 @ 1:13 PM ET
Schenn + for Nishcushkin?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 18 @ 1:13 PM ET
Can't help but feel this team is on the verge of a downswing. The last couple wins, plus the stars game just leave a lot to be desired. I feel like the next 2-3 weeks could decide their fate. Can they keep up winning 2 out of 3 or will they fall back again.
- Just5

With the NHL's poopty point system, they'll be "in the hunt" for awhile barring a 5+ regulation game losing streak. Doubt the next 2-3 weeks make a huge difference in the standings since they'll be hovering around ".500" along with like 15 other teams.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 18 @ 1:16 PM ET
I don't care about any deals boston made nor do I care about the nash deal. we are in the hear and now.

he is a 23 year old #1 center. you are going to have to give to get imo...if I am wrong I will gladly say so. maybe your right time will tell.

- rinaldo



You don't think teams look at comparables?

Seguin when traded was a 21 year old top line player on a good contract. Had off the ice issues per the team. Was in the doghouse. The whole scenario is almost what is happening in Columbus.

You don't think Columbus is looking at that? Yes here and now is a little different but this isn't a trade that happened ten years ago.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 18 @ 1:16 PM ET
Schenn + for Nishcushkin?
- 2Real


+ laughton and Petterson
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 18 @ 1:16 PM ET
Schenn + for Nishcushkin?
- 2Real


Not sure Schenn is the type of defenseman Dallas is (likely not) looking to trade him for.
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