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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 14 @ 11:19 AM ET
I as looking at some numbers and for us to get SChenn something has to give. Right now Canucks have 2.2 in cap space and Schenns salary is 3.6. Pedan and his 800k would go back to Utica or be part of the trade . We still have 600 K to clear. We could send Kenins back and problem solved , or we would need to trade a roster player.

I believe Canucks have a genuine interest in Schenn and something will happen before we play them Thursday.

Hamhuis is scheduled at least 8 weeks. TDL is in 10. I believe there will be complications and Hamhuis wont be ready for a least 10 weeks

What do Flyers want back in return? They would say Horvat and a first rounder but we know that will never happen.

The roster player would be Higgins or Baertschi. We are too thin on D to swap D.

There would probably be a B prospect or a third rounder. Truthfully I would prefer giving up a B prospect over a pick

- VANTEL


They could just switch jerseys and change rooms on Thurs. easy.


Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 14 @ 11:19 AM ET
Imagine we did the trades/UFA signings for

Edler-Tanev
Hutton-Gudbrandson
Tryamkin-L. Schenn(or someone like this)

Not the greatest D in the world, but top 4 is good and bottom 2 are punishing.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 14 @ 11:23 AM ET
Imagine we did the trades/UFA signings for

Edler-Tanev
Hutton-Gudbrandson
Tryamkin-L. Schenn(or someone like this)

Not the greatest D in the world, but top 4 is good and bottom 2 are punishing.

- Retinalz

Gudbrandson was drafted 3rd overall and hasn't done much in FLA albeit on pretty bad clubs up until now...remind me why we want him here?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 14 @ 11:23 AM ET
Imagine we did the trades/UFA signings for

Edler-Tanev
Hutton-Gudbrandson
Tryamkin-L. Schenn(or someone like this)

Not the greatest D in the world, but top 4 is good and bottom 2 are punishing.

- Retinalz

Sbisa?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 14 @ 11:24 AM ET
Imagine we did the trades/UFA signings for

Edler-Tanev
Hutton-Gudbrandson
Tryamkin-L. Schenn(or someone like this)

Not the greatest D in the world, but top 4 is good and bottom 2 are punishing.

- Retinalz


Punishing Defensively and giving almost nothing offensively.

Hutton provides a good spark to offense. Edler the same. The rest are pretty much all stay at home defensive defenseman and then garbage (schenn)
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 14 @ 11:28 AM ET
Subban could face similar problems
- VANTEL

Yes he could be a special teams guy, kinda like Torey Krug with Boston. Or he could be Yannick Weber?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 14 @ 11:30 AM ET
Yes he could be a special teams guy, kinda like Torey Krug with Boston. Or he could be Yannick Weber?
- LeftCoaster

You might want to consider his feelings before you start labeling him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 14 @ 11:32 AM ET
Yes he could be a special teams guy, kinda like Torey Krug with Boston. Or he could be Yannick Weber?
- LeftCoaster

We are trying to get rid of Weber
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 14 @ 11:34 AM ET
Yes he could be a special teams guy, kinda like Torey Krug with Boston. Or he could be Yannick Weber?
- LeftCoaster


Watched a highlight package of Subbans goals from Junior and he definitely likes to jump up in the rush and even go as low as the faceoff dot in the offensive zone. Stuff that I think kids can get away with in Junior but scares the crap out of me at the Pro level. Weber does the same thing. The difference between Weber and Krug is that Krug actually dictates the play in the offensive zone from just inside the Blue line and jumps up in the rush when he knows he has a forward to cover him. Weber.. well he just jumps up in the rush anyways.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 14 @ 11:35 AM ET
Punishing Defensively and giving almost nothing offensively.

Hutton provides a good spark to offense. Edler the same. The rest are pretty much all stay at home defensive defenseman and then garbage (schenn)

- Codes1087

Schenn isn't the be all end all. Tryamkin is showing some offense in KHL, but if he developes well here we could see Subban with Tryamkin(would more then make up for size issues)
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 14 @ 11:37 AM ET
Gudbrandson was drafted 3rd overall and hasn't done much in FLA albeit on pretty bad clubs up until now...remind me why we want him here?
- LordHumungous

Could be better with a better partner, plus he isn't a bad 4th dman with upside. i see Edler as a #2 and Tanev/Hutton as #3 right now. We aren't getting a #1 unless we draft him or OS one and take one that way(Reilly)
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 14 @ 11:41 AM ET
We are trying to get rid of Weber
- VANTEL

I'm on that wagon too!
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 14 @ 11:41 AM ET
You might want to consider his feelings before you start labeling him.
- Marwood

True...but there's no crying in hockey.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 14 @ 11:42 AM ET
Schenn isn't the be all end all. Tryamkin is showing some offense in KHL, but if he developes well here we could see Subban with Tryamkin(would more then make up for size issues)
- Retinalz

I think Schenn would be a good fit . Your bottom pairing would be Schenn Sbisa . Gritty ,high risk ,high reward.

Sbisa is signed for two more years so we can't pretend he won't play. Truthfully he deserves the chance.

Tyamkin has a 50/50 chance of coming here . I don't want to pencil him in unless he is here and makes the team.

Edler Hutton Tanev and Sbisa aren't going anywhere so we need to find 3 guys and like I have said before JB likes Bartowski
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 14 @ 11:46 AM ET
True...but there's no crying in hockey.
- LeftCoaster

Tell that to Ryan Smyth.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 14 @ 11:47 AM ET
Tell that to Ryan Smyth.
- Marwood

And Messer
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Dec 14 @ 11:49 AM ET
Don't understand the Subban negativity.

Kid is probably one of the best pure skaters we have in the organization.
Is our memory really this short?

Anyone remember him in the rookies comp?
Effectively shutting down McDavid, neutralizing guys twice his size and surprisingly laying out some pretty sweet hip-checks.

Yes, move him for a # 7-8 UFA bust before we even know what we have on our hands.

Weber for Schenn, nothing more.
One piece of garbage for another.

SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Dec 14 @ 11:58 AM ET
Don't understand the Subban negativity.

Kid is probably one of the best pure skaters we have in the organization.
Is our memory really this short?

Anyone remember him in the rookies comp?
Effectively shutting down McDavid, neutralizing guys twice his size and surprisingly laying out some pretty sweet hip-checks.

Yes, move him for a # 7-8 UFA bust before we even know what we have on our hands.

Weber for Schenn, nothing more.
One piece of garbage for another.

- Whiskey-Tango


JS has as many points as Jensen lol I agree with this except philly should pay some cap.... L. Schenn. is garbage.... nothing more then a cap dump
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 14 @ 12:05 PM ET
JS has as many points as Jensen lol I agree with this except philly should pay some cap.... L. Schenn. is garbage.... nothing more then a cap dump
- SMP8719

Trade Jensen then
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 14 @ 12:13 PM ET
Talent Analysis

Boeser has great puck skills, an accurate shot and a very quick release. He is an excellent passer as well. Like most young, offensively oriented forwards, he needs to work on the defensive aspects of his game. He will need to bulk up to be able to dominate at the NCAA level.

He already is.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 14 @ 12:20 PM ET
We debated on these boards two years ago about Sbisa , how he was garbage. Some flipped out and still haven't returned since then. Sbisa was by far better than the person Ryan Stanton who previously occupied the job

Last year we had the Brandon Sutter debates/saga. Once again heated debates that he wasn't enough of an upgrade over Nick Bonino for the difference of salary. Now everyone calling the teams lack of success because we miss Sutter

Here we go now with Yanick Weber being a better option than Luke Schenn. I don't know in what universe that would be true , but where was Weber last year in the playoffs when things got heated? Where was he this year against the Ducks when it got greasy ? Schenn would be a big improvement over the player currently occupying the spot.

I can't begin to tell you how much Milan Lucic would be an upgrade over Chris Higgins.

Making improvements is like pulling teeth

We are five points out of last and two points out of the playoffs. If by some chance we made the playoffs , I would rather have Schenn and Lucic on my roster over Weber and Higgins
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 14 @ 12:22 PM ET
I think Schenn would be a good fit . Your bottom pairing would be Schenn Sbisa . Gritty ,high risk ,high reward.

Sbisa is signed for two more years so we can't pretend he won't play. Truthfully he deserves the chance.

Tyamkin has a 50/50 chance of coming here . I don't want to pencil him in unless he is here and makes the team.

Edler Hutton Tanev and Sbisa aren't going anywhere so we need to find 3 guys and like I have said before JB likes Bartowski

- VANTEL

I was thinking Sbisa went to Florida in the gudbrandson trade

Vrbata+Sbisa for Gudbrandson + X
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 14 @ 12:24 PM ET
We debated on these boards two years ago about Sbisa , how he was garbage. Some flipped out and still haven't returned since then. Sbisa was by far better that the person Ryan Stanton who previously occupied the job

Last year we had the Brandon Sutter debates/saga. Once again heated debates that he wasn't enough of an upgrade over Nick Bonino for the difference of salary. Now everyone calling the teams lack of success because we miss Sutter

Here we go now with Yanick Weber being a better option than Luke Schenn. I don't know in what universe that would be true , but where was Weber last year in the playoffs when things got heated? Where was he this year against the Ducks when it got greasy ? Schenn would be a big improvement over the player currently occupying the spot.

I can't begin to tell you how much Milan Lucic would be an upgrade over Chris Higgins.

Making improvements is like pulling teeth

- VANTEL


We have 3 or 4 prospects in Utica that are a better options than Higgins.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 14 @ 12:25 PM ET
We have 3 or 4 prospects in Utica that are a better options than Higgins.
- Retinalz

And yet he still plays for us very game
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 14 @ 12:28 PM ET
And yet he still plays for us very game
- VANTEL

Because WD can't see how useless he is and JB isn't willing to dump his ass down to Utica
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