he was the band...nothing against the other members, but they could never wear an oversized suit like he could
- Michael Pachla

And they couldn't take off an oversized suit like Kathy F.

(She gave me the green light.)

That was by design though.

Corey Pronman put out an interesting stat on Steven Stamkos.

Based on his WAR rating (wins above replacement) if you were to sign Stamkos, you are only getting 2-3 more wins in the regular season.

So let's factor that in for Eichel, say he goes from good to superstar, that's about 2-3 wins, same with Reinhart and Risto.

There development isn't close to enough to make us contenders. Murray needs to add a few pieces, and he now has pretty bare cupboards
- sbroads24

The cupboards aren't bare, but in order to make a move or two, they would be and that's the problem. At this point in the game, patience is key. That's not to say that there aren't some changes that need to be made. I think we need to let this season play out though and not make knee jerk moves.

That was by design though.

Corey Pronman put out an interesting stat on Steven Stamkos.

Based on his WAR rating (wins above replacement) if you were to sign Stamkos, you are only getting 2-3 more wins in the regular season.

So let's factor that in for Eichel, say he goes from good to superstar, that's about 2-3 wins, same with Reinhart and Risto.

There development isn't close to enough to make us contenders. Murray needs to add a few pieces, and he now has pretty bare cupboards
- sbroads24

with the youth they have this season, they shouldn't have been considered contenders to begin with...that said, a top-pairing left-handed d-man wouldn't hurt...neither would a top-line rw, and that would include ennis playing at that level...something he might be capable of

And Murray made a lot of moves and gave away a lot of assets for this team to "still stink" as bad as it does.

Right or wrong?

Or does Murray keep getting a pass?

An honest question.
- BuffaloHardHat

That's a tough question to answer. I'll say this, on draft day when he went bonkers trading picks away I was pissed. I needed to be talked off the ledge. Getting O'Reilly signed helped me feel better. But I did not feel compelled to bring in anyone else as I thought we would end up in the same boat we are in anyways.

In closing, it's too soon to judge. But I'm sick of being in situations where the GM make controversial moves and were always in limbo saying "It's too soon to judge".

gets pass...this team isn't nearly as bad as it was the last two seasons in the abyss
- Michael Pachla

Buffalo is one point from being the worst team in the league, again.

So I guess it's all in how you look at things.

For what Murray gave up, we should be better than 1 point from being the armpit of the league once again.

ROR has cooled off a bit recently as well

so has Eichel
- homiedclown

ROR is on a 6 game point streak with 8 points.....

thx, homie for that vid...

same concert:

I asked that question and was told I am out of line


IMO the team needs to be close to 80 points for him to be safe

if they are in the low 60's, he should be in trouble
- homiedclown

I'm with you on that thought.

That was by design though.

Corey Pronman put out an interesting stat on Steven Stamkos.

Based on his WAR rating (wins above replacement) if you were to sign Stamkos, you are only getting 2-3 more wins in the regular season.

So let's factor that in for Eichel, say he goes from good to superstar, that's about 2-3 wins, same with Reinhart and Risto.

There development isn't close to enough to make us contenders. Murray needs to add a few pieces, and he now has pretty bare cupboards
- sbroads24

Stop making sense.

Buffalo is one point from being the worst team in the league, again.

So I guess it's all in how you look at things.

For what Murray gave up, we should be better than 1 point from being the armpit of the league once again.
- BuffaloHardHat

one point out of 24th...they also played the defending eastern conference champs four times the top two teams in the west (at the time) two times each, plus Vancouver twice and Nashville twice, both of whom are presently in the top three in their divisions..

not exactly chopped liver

That's a tough question to answer. I'll say this, on draft day when he went bonkers trading picks away I was pissed. I needed to be talked off the ledge. Getting O'Reilly signed helped me feel better. But I did not feel compelled to bring in anyone else as I thought we would end up in the same boat we are in anyways.

In closing, it's too soon to judge. But I'm sick of being in situations where the GM make controversial moves and were always in limbo saying "It's too soon to judge".
- Buffalo--Sabres

Good post BS.

thx, homie for that vid...

same concert:


- Michael Pachla

I have that concert, bootleg

nothing but flowers and mr jones are my 2 favorite head songs

Stop making sense.
- BuffaloHardHat

taHdraHolaffuB

Goaltending and defense are the issue, we have the same amount of GF as PIT and only 6 less than DET. But GA is horrible.

ROR is on a 6 game point streak with 8 points.....
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

and he had 4 points in his previous 12 games

streaky, not top line stability



not a dig at him, but the team because the team goes as far as that top line the the sieves in net right now

bottom 3 lines can't get right

I have that concert, bootleg

nothing but flowers and mr jones are my 2 favorite head songs



- homiedclown

yeah those two are great...

I keep going back to remain in light, fear of music and speaking in tounges...loads of faves on those too

one point out of 24th...they also played the defending eastern conference champs four times the top two teams in the west (at the time) two times each, plus Vancouver twice and Nashville twice, both of whom are presently in the top three in their divisions..

not exactly chopped liver
- Michael Pachla

Those games made us look like chopped liver with sauteed onions.

Goaltending and defense are the issue, we have the same amount of GF as PIT and only 6 less than DET. But GA is horrible.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...ort/pointsAgainst/group/1

Those games made us look like chopped liver with sauteed onions.
- cabin

I disagree. We actually played well against the hard teams, until this west coast swing.

one point out of 24th...
- Michael Pachla

C'mon Mike.

And we should be happy with being one point out of 24th?

You're better than that.

Like I said, perhaps its just my frustration in its totality with both of our cities sport franchises fighting for whom can out do the other at being the most inept from year to year.

I'm not getting any younger ya know.

I'm fully expecting the Bills to choke this weekend as well because, it's what happens here in Buffalo.

So yea, i'm a bit frustrated.

yeah those two are great...

I keep going back to remain in light, fear of music and speaking in tounges...loads of faves on those too
- Michael Pachla

taHdraHolaffuB
- Der Kaiser

Hello DK

Hello DK
- BuffaloHardHat

gninroM dooG.

I disagree. We actually played well against the hard teams, until this west coast swing.
- Der Kaiser

since the hab game, oct 24th

team has played 22 games


totally outclassed in 4 of those game

2 of those 4 games were vs the oilers and nucks this week


pretty big improvement being in 18 out of those 22 games, it's the lack of points in the standings that is frustrating for me

http://espn.go.com/nhl/standings/_/sort/pointsAgainst/group/1
- homiedclown

I see the Habs are falling fast without Price in net.