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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 9 @ 3:48 PM ET
Without unloading the Spaling/Sutter contracts, they didn't have the $$ to sign Martin to what he got from SJ.
- jmatchett383


Ehroff at 1.5 is a bargain compared to what the Pens have to work with.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 3:50 PM ET
Could be the case. But I would think it more like refinement in personnel decisions is leading to greater skill parity. CHI was probably one of the first teams to widely implement it.
Kane has always been largely and offensively player and very mediocre defensively. Plenty of bad analytics players are predictable. We all know Scuderi is going to turnover the puck along the boards like clockwork.

- jfkst1


Hasn't Scudmuffin got great numbers this season?? Get what you wish for!!!

Sutter is an example, scored 20 odd goals but wasn't at all predictable. Scoring chances occur a lot of the times off mistakes or pucks hitting weird angles etc. Good possession guys keep the puck & the play becomes vanilla 'ice ice baby'!!

The organisations are using this data that is flawed if my opinion (& Ive backed that statement up), now the fans don't like what is the result. But you guys support the analytical use??

Don't paint the wall bright pink, then complain is doesn't go with the other colours in the home - the colour vanilla 'ice ice baby'!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 3:51 PM ET
Ehroff at 1.5 is a bargain compared to what the Pens have to work with.
- sammy87


Ehrhoff signed that bargain to tun it into a big payday. That was a one-off, not to be repeated often.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 9 @ 3:51 PM ET
Hasn't Scudmuffin got great numbers this season?? Get what you wish for!!!

Sutter is an example, scored 20 odd goals but wasn't at all predictable. Scoring chances occur a lot of the times off mistakes or pucks hitting weird angles etc. Good possession guys keep the puck & the play becomes vanilla 'ice ice baby'!!

The organisations are using this data that is flawed if my opinion (& Ive backed that statement up), now the fans don't like what is the result. But you guys support the analytical use??

Don't paint the wall bright pink, then complain is doesn't go with the other colours in the home - the colour vanilla 'ice ice baby'!

- Aussiepenguin


huh?
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 3:53 PM ET
Ehroff at 1.5 is a bargain compared to what the Pens have to work with.
- sammy87


Do you know if Ehrhof wanted to play in a Pens sweater again? If you don't then you may as well say Petry could have been offered a contract?? It makes as much sense!!

He's also been benched this season & with your rational you would have been the first to tell all what a mistake it was signing him!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 3:55 PM ET
Do you know if Ehrhof wanted to play in a Pens sweater again? If you don't then you may as well say Petry could have been offered a contract?? It makes as much sense!!

He's also been benched this season & with your rational you would have been the first to tell all what a mistake it was signing him!

- Aussiepenguin


Malkin for Ehrhoff
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 3:55 PM ET
huh?
- j.boyd919


Need to read my previous comment.

"Alright stop, collaborate & listen"!
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 3:57 PM ET
Malkin for Ehrhoff
- jmatchett383


Well that's just silly!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 3:57 PM ET
Need to read my previous comment.

"Alright stop, collaborate & listen"!

- Aussiepenguin


NO! No no no no NO! NO!

NO!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 3:58 PM ET
Well that's just silly!
- Aussiepenguin


Malkin and a 3rd for Ehrhoff
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 4:01 PM ET
Malkin and a 3rd for Ehrhoff
- jmatchett383


Getting warm.

How about Malkin for the ass grabber, Simmonds & a 2nd.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 4:04 PM ET
Getting warm.

How about Malkin for the ass grabber, Simmonds & a 2nd.

- Aussiepenguin


Only if you guys will pay for his trips to Ottawa and bail him out for his adventures in ass grab land.
jaydogg1974
Joined: 06.18.2012

Dec 9 @ 4:06 PM ET
Hasn't Scudmuffin got great numbers this season?? Get what you wish for!!!

Sutter is an example, scored 20 odd goals but wasn't at all predictable. Scoring chances occur a lot of the times off mistakes or pucks hitting weird angles etc. Good possession guys keep the puck & the play becomes vanilla 'ice ice baby'!!

The organisations are using this data that is flawed if my opinion (& Ive backed that statement up), now the fans don't like what is the result. But you guys support the analytical use??

Don't paint the wall bright pink, then complain is doesn't go with the other colours in the home - the colour vanilla 'ice ice baby'!

- Aussiepenguin


You left off a very important detail, the teams that were at the forefront of using the flawed data won. Sure it makes for boring hockey sometimes for the fans but winning cures all for the teams.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 4:09 PM ET
You left off a very important detail, the teams that were at the forefront of using the flawed data won. Sure it makes for boring hockey sometimes for the fans but winning cures all for the teams.
- jaydogg1974


The team at the forefront was the Toronto Maple Leafs who did it long before the Black Hawks did it. At some point, you need talent both on and off the ice more than you need the fancy stats.

Also, I don't think the Black Hawks are a "boring" team at all. They're one of the most dynamic teams in hockey. They simple have gifted players and have drafted well.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 9 @ 4:14 PM ET
Need to read my previous comment.

"Alright stop, collaborate & listen"!

- Aussiepenguin


I read it, and its a bunch of jibberish, which again... huh?
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
You left off a very important detail, the teams that were at the forefront of using the flawed data won. Sure it makes for boring hockey sometimes for the fans but winning cures all for the teams.
- jaydogg1974


Everyone is doing it now that's the thing! Everyone doing the same thing leads to what???? "Ice ice baby"!

Hawks won the cups due to great team with great contracts & no injuries.
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Dec 9 @ 4:16 PM ET
I read it, and its a bunch of jibberish, which again... huh?
- j.boyd919




Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 4:17 PM ET
I read it, and its a bunch of jibberish, which again... huh?
- j.boyd919


Got a retort better than 'huh'? Throw some ideas at me.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 4:18 PM ET
Everyone is doing it now that's the thing! Everyone doing the same thing leads to what???? "Ice ice baby"!

Hawks won the cups due to great team with great contracts & no injuries.

- Aussiepenguin


Patrick Kane tells the rest of the league what? "You cant touch this."
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 4:22 PM ET
Patrick Kane tells the rest of the league what? "You cant touch this."
- jmatchett383


He likes big butts! Really any butt as long as they say NOOOOOOOOOO!
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Dec 9 @ 4:22 PM ET
Patrick Kane tells the rest of the league what? "You cant touch this."
- jmatchett383


That's what she said.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 4:23 PM ET



- chimpira


What does a game in December 2013 have anything to do with this team????
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Dec 9 @ 4:25 PM ET
What does a game in December 2013 have anything to do with this team????
- Aussiepenguin


How's life in Alice Springs?
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 4:25 PM ET
That's what she said.
- jfkst1

Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 4:28 PM ET
How's life in Alice Springs?
- chimpira


Lots of fog on the Opera house this morning. Can't even see the bridge!!!
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