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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 9 @ 7:14 PM ET
Sugar is other devil. It's funny, the wife and I read every label at the grocery store and it's shocking how much of it is added to food these days.

I was never fat or anything, but my PCP said I could stand to lose 10 or 15 lbs. I lost that in a month.

Of course the down side is I'm STARVING all the time. So....

- madmike71


When I started getting serious about what I ate, it blew my mind how much sodium is in food when reading labels. I travel a lot for work and if I have a crappy meal I instantly feel my finger swell up and have to take my ring off. Normally it just slides right on. But yeah sugar is a killer.
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Dec 9 @ 7:15 PM ET
WBS 2 Syracuse 0
Kostoplous -G Sundqvist -a
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Dec 9 @ 7:19 PM ET
Two months is a laughably small sample size. Since then, he's been figured out. I get that there have been injuries, but Disco managed to make his team play well at least during the regular season despite them and he's not a great coach by any stretch. Like somebody said, why are coaches so stubborn with their systems and insist that they need round pegs to match up with their round holes when they have a team full of square pegs? Why not just make square holes? That's what a competent coach would do. MJ has not shown any effort into doing that, and that is why I have no faith. The defense is lack luster and we wouldn't be cup favorites, but a new coach would at least give us a shot.
- Victoro311


Which is why making a trade right now seems stupid to me. Why trade a solid asset like Hornqvist when there's a pretty good chance that this team's performance would skyrocket with a new coach?

It would make me sick to see good players on good deals leave town, then the team still sucks, then the Penguins fire him, and then the team instantly looks better but isn't as good because they made a stupid and premature trade.

It's just a continuation of what they're doing with the lines - shuffling the deck when the problems are deeper than that.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 9 @ 7:19 PM ET
WBS 2 Syracuse 0
Kostoplous -G Sundqvist -a

- Reverend Killtaker


Can't wait til Sullivan comes up and fixes this mess.
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Dec 9 @ 7:21 PM ET
Can't wait til Sullivan comes up and fixes this mess.
- madmike71

I'll ask him when he leaves the bench after the first when expects the call.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 9 @ 7:23 PM ET
Which is why making a trade right now seems stupid to me. Why trade a solid asset like Hornqvist when there's a pretty good chance that this team's performance would skyrocket with a new coach?

It would make me sick to see good players on good deals leave town, then the team still sucks, then the Penguins fire him, and then the team instantly looks better but isn't as good because they made a stupid and premature trade.

It's just a continuation of what they're doing with the lines - shuffling the deck when the problems are deeper than that.

- hardnosed

Hardnosed, we don't always agree, but when we do we're definitely right.
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Dec 9 @ 7:29 PM ET
WBS 3
Syracuse 0
G-Sheary
A-Kuhnackel, Andersen
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 7:31 PM ET
Is anyone talking about +/- aside from you?
- Johnny Wrath


I've compared plus/minus to Corsi to justify my statement, you are ignoring the comparison to defend yours!

Now you just accused me of making a straw man argument & you go & do that exact same thing by your response above!

Well done!!
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Dec 9 @ 7:38 PM ET
Sundqvist headed to the locker room
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 9 @ 7:39 PM ET
I've compared plus/minus to Corsi to justify my statement, you are ignoring the comparison to defend yours!

Now you just accused me of making a straw man argument & you go & do that exact same thing by your response above!

Well done!!

- Aussiepenguin


Still waiting homie
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Dec 9 @ 8:03 PM ET
Sundqvist returns for the 2nd phew!
WBS 3
Syracuse 0
I asked Sullivan on his way to the locker room when is headed to Pitt they need him and he responded with a grin. read into it however you want haha
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 9 @ 8:05 PM ET
Sundqvist returns for the 2nd phew!
WBS 3
Syracuse 0
I asked Sullivan on his way to the locker room when is headed to Pitt they need him and he responded with a grin. read into it however you want haha

- Reverend Killtaker

So are you just the resident superfan that the whole team knows?
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Dec 9 @ 8:07 PM ET
So are you just the resident superfan that the whole team knows?
- Victoro311

That was pretty obnoxious.

No I just sit on Pens tunnel. So I'm a familiar face.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 8:12 PM ET
I say "huh?" because you are trying to say that advanced statistics are flawed, but yet 7 of the last 10 Stanley Cup winners were among the leading teams in 5v5 CF, 6 of those 7 were top 5, only last years Hawks were no. 6. Three of those 6 teams were no. 1. Sure, teams like the Canes, Bruins, and Pens bucked that trend, but it is safe to say that there is a trend that the teams at the top of the advanced stats (not just Corsi, but all the others when taken into account) tend to be more successful than the ones that do not. And I understand I only chose corsi, but when you look at Corsi, Fenwick, PDO, Zone Entires, Zone Starts, Goal Differential, Faceoffs, Points, etc. as different "ingredients" to the "recipe for success" they tend to compliment each other to provide people/teams/front office with extremely helpful analytic tools to build their team with. BUT if you look at one advanced statistic as the end all-be all stat, and use JUST THAT to form your team... of course its going to be flawed, they are never meant to be used as THE tool, but only AN OPTION of tools. You gonna build a house with just a drill? No, you're gonna use a hammer, a level, a drill, drywall, etc. etc. etc...
- j.boyd919



So in all that what you are saying is that 3 of the last 10 winners were top in advanced stats??
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 9 @ 8:12 PM ET
That was pretty obnoxious.

No I just sit on Pens tunnel. So I'm a familiar face.

- Reverend Killtaker

How was that obnoxious. I would think being a super fan would be a compliment. I apologize
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Dec 9 @ 8:15 PM ET
How was that obnoxious. I would think being a super fan would be a compliment. I apologize
- Victoro311

It's all the five guys carbs they get me butt hurt easy I guess.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 9 @ 8:17 PM ET
It's all the five guys carbs they get me butt hurt easy I guess.
- Reverend Killtaker

I know what you mean. My five guys went right through me and my butt is kind of hurting.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 9 @ 8:18 PM ET
So in all that what you are saying is that 3 of the last 10 winners were top in advanced stats??
- Aussiepenguin


Still curious to how you analyze talent. Watcha say there bud?
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Dec 9 @ 8:19 PM ET
When I started getting serious about what I ate, it blew my mind how much sodium is in food when reading labels. I travel a lot for work and if I have a crappy meal I instantly feel my finger swell up and have to take my ring off. Normally it just slides right on. But yeah sugar is a killer.
- sammy87


Trading Malkin is a great way to lose weight
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Dec 9 @ 8:20 PM ET
Sundqvist returns for the 2nd phew!
WBS 3
Syracuse 0
I asked Sullivan on his way to the locker room when is headed to Pitt they need him and he responded with a grin. read into it however you want haha

- Reverend Killtaker


My goodness...take this straight to TSN...orrr at least The Hockey Press blog

edit: seriously though I really hope he's the guy. #BetterCallSull
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 8:22 PM ET
Still waiting homie
- j.boyd919


Waiting for talent analysis?

First & foremost you watch what players do with or without whatever object they're playing with - this case the puck.

Shots, shots that are genuine chances, assists, assists to shots that you will have to watch games for. Goals scored, defence techniques again on players & away from players. All this would be recent stats & observations. Speed, & ability evaluations.

Who these players play with & the different abilities they have compared to what a team - your team, needs. Need D don't look for a LW!

That's just a start, of course better more knowledgable people than me that will do better things.

One thing I wouldn't do is rely on historical data, or put much faith in a statistic that totals events without even participation or any stat evolved from that!!

How's that Boydy Boy for a start??
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Dec 9 @ 8:23 PM ET
My goodness...take this straight to TSN...orrr at least The Hockey Press blog

edit: seriously though I really hope he's the guy. #BetterCallSull

- YouMeAndDupuis9

I'll laugh my butt off if he already knows and they are just waiting to get the team back to Pitt to make the announcement haha.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Dec 9 @ 8:23 PM ET
Which is why making a trade right now seems stupid to me. Why trade a solid asset like Hornqvist when there's a pretty good chance that this team's performance would skyrocket with a new coach?

It would make me sick to see good players on good deals leave town, then the team still sucks, then the Penguins fire him, and then the team instantly looks better but isn't as good because they made a stupid and premature trade.

It's just a continuation of what they're doing with the lines - shuffling the deck when the problems are deeper than that.

- hardnosed


Ill give Pouliot/Clendening their opportunity to shine, see if Sprong can play top 6, then re-evaluate.

Though were likely to wake up tomorrow and see all that cap space used on Mark Fayne...

Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 9 @ 8:24 PM ET
Still curious to how you analyze talent. Watcha say there bud?
- j.boyd919


I've answered yours now do me the pleasure??
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Dec 9 @ 8:26 PM ET
I'll laugh my butt off if he already knows and they are just waiting to get the team back to Pitt to make the announcement haha.
- Reverend Killtaker



Hahaha that would be great. Ask him again next intermission....waiting for a wink....
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