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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
Oh yeah. I know it's possible. I just have the weird nagging faint feeling in my head, that as Leafs fans, things can go south quickly.

For the life of me I can't pinpoint as to why I have that feeling

- walshyleafsfan

oh it will.
Leaf luck:

He'll sign and A) never live up to hype B) be injured all the time C) will be great, but will have no supporting cast.....D) just not sign.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
It is still a long shot, better to think about Marner and Nylander with the Leafs next year as sure bets.
- LeafMan

Nylander for sure.
Marner maybe the marlies?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Dec 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
Bozak with another very good game last night, does not deserve the crap he gets around here.

Phaneuf at times has been pretty good but dear lord, he can't get to the puck to make a pass out of his zone, he looks around to Gardiner to get it and he promptly passes it into someones skates.

Going back to my old L4L site 3 years ago, I wrote about Sparks and said he is going to make it with the Leafs, so far so good.

- LeafMan


no way.. i will never relent when it comes to bozak!! he's just too much fun to pick apart

phaneuf has been better.. and its nice to see he has proven to be a good (not great, but good) d-man under a coach that can adequately assess a players usefulness.

you have always been high on Sparks.. I can vouche for that for sure.. but I do think Bernier eventually steals back the starter job. Most talented goalie in the leafs organization.. his head just needed to be un-(frank)ed up.. this conditioning stint is proving to be doing just that. like hitting the reset button.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
Nylander for sure.
Marner maybe the marlies?

- Fakepartofme

No, OHL or the Leafs.

It will be the Leafs.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Dec 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
What do you do with Bernier?
I think they move Reimer first.

- zazzle


To Arizona for a 2nd rounder.
He should have a nice rest of his NHL career there.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 9 @ 11:30 AM ET
Just saw the Dave Poulin bit on Kadri.. its official Kadri was padding his corsi stats
- senstroll


I can't stream it at work. I just saw comments on the gist of it.

Do you think there is something to it or is Poulin off base?

Related note...

I mentioned a while ago that Randy Robles from Elias Sports bureau felt that today's Advanced Stats were pretty useless (this was over a year ago). He also went on to say that they might even prove damaging to the game. I believe (can't remember for sure) that his point was the same thing mentioned here with Kadri.

As long as shots on/toward the goal is called "possession" or "driving possession", it's a potential problem. It could encourage exactly the opposite of retaining possession.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 11:30 AM ET
no way.. i will never relent when it comes to bozak!! he's just too much fun to pick apart

phaneuf has been better.. and its nice to see he has proven to be a good (not great, but good) d-man under a coach that can adequately assess a players usefulness.

you have always been high on Sparks.. I can vouche for that for sure.. but I do think Bernier eventually steals back the starter job. Most talented goalie in the leafs organization.. his head just needed to be un-(frank)ed up.. this conditioning stint is proving to be doing just that. like hitting the reset button.

- Dozzer

Oh Sparks is going back to the Marlies unless Reimer is injured still but he has proven he can play, he never quits on a play, that save on Stempniak was outstanding in the shootout.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:31 AM ET
You realize that Samsonov and Vasilevskiy are both 1st round picks as well right?
And Gibson 2nd rounder.

Leafs can't wait to have a starting goalie 5y from now, so it would make complete sense to switch a non top10 1st rounder 2016 for a 1st round pick earlier years (knowing which guy you would be getting and how he has developed after being drafted).

- MaximusAurelius



They used the Leafs pick to get him and the Leafs got Biggs.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Dec 9 @ 11:31 AM ET
To Arizona for a 2nd rounder.
He should have a nice rest of his NHL career there.

- MaximusAurelius


He needs the Tippet treatment.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:32 AM ET
Nylander for sure.
Marner maybe the marlies?

- Fakepartofme



Still to young for the AHL.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Dec 9 @ 11:32 AM ET
It is still a long shot, better to think about Marner and Nylander with the Leafs next year as sure bets.
- LeafMan

HAMGGGGGG

Stamkos!!!!!
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 9 @ 11:32 AM ET
It's possible that Stamkos wants to play for the Leafs.

The same way Suter and Parise wanted to play for the Wild.

- Pecafan Fan


It is possible. I would even say it is likely.

I just think that is still a LONG way from saying it is going to happen. I am not even sure how the Leafs feel about signing him to an enormous contract IF he hits UFA status.

1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Dec 9 @ 11:33 AM ET
I can't stream it at work. I just saw comments on the gist of it.

Do you think there is something to it or is Poulin off base?

Related note...

I mentioned a while ago that Randy Robles from Elias Sports bureau felt that today's Advanced Stats were pretty useless (this was over a year ago). He also went on to say that they might even prove damaging to the game. I believe (can't remember for sure) that his point was the same thing mentioned here with Kadri.

As long as shots on/toward the goal is called "possession" or "driving possession", it's a potential problem. It could encourage exactly the opposite of retaining possession.

- Aetherial


I'm still waiting for a valid explanation as to why shot attempts are a better metric for possession than O-Zone time.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 9 @ 11:33 AM ET
No, OHL or the Leafs.

It will be the Leafs.

- LeafMan

Is he not eligible for the AHL?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 9 @ 11:34 AM ET
Really?
- Atomic Wedgie


Yeah, she still looks good for her age It may have come from liking the role she played in a movie I saw.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 9 @ 11:34 AM ET
Still to young for the AHL.
- zazzle

Ah ok.
but can play in NHL?
weird.

thanks
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 11:34 AM ET
I'm still waiting for a valid explanation as to why shot attempts are a better metric for possession than O-Zone time.
- 1979AD

Do you remember my rant on this very subject a couple of years ago?

Garbage in, garbage out.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:34 AM ET
To Arizona for a 2nd rounder.
He should have a nice rest of his NHL career there.

- MaximusAurelius



1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Dec 9 @ 11:34 AM ET
Is he not eligible for the AHL?
- Fakepartofme


He'll be 19 next year. CHL or NHL are the only options.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 11:34 AM ET
Is he not eligible for the AHL?
- Fakepartofme

No still too young as zazzle posted.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 9 @ 11:35 AM ET
You realize that Samsonov and Vasilevskiy are both 1st round picks as well right?
And Gibson 2nd rounder.

Leafs can't wait to have a starting goalie 5y from now, so it would make complete sense to switch a non top10 1st rounder 2016 for a 1st round pick earlier years (knowing which guy you would be getting and how he has developed after being drafted).

- MaximusAurelius



HIs numbers are almost as good as sparks.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Dec 9 @ 11:35 AM ET
Do you remember my rant on this very subject a couple of years ago?

Garbage in, garbage out.

- LeafMan


I remember quite a few rants over the past couple years. It's hard to keep them apart.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Dec 9 @ 11:37 AM ET
Oh Sparks is going back to the Marlies unless Reimer is injured still but he has proven he can play, he never quits on a play, that save on Stempniak was outstanding in the shootout.
- LeafMan



Or even the save in game where he was beat but got the paddle down behind him to prevent a goal.

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Dec 9 @ 11:37 AM ET
No, OHL or the Leafs.

It will be the Leafs.

- LeafMan


while he has shown to have outgrown the OHL he has still yet to prove if he can play against men.

I think the brass will approach next camp with an open mind, but if he isnt physically ready yet and gets repeatedly bumped off the puck, i bet you see him as an over ager in the OHL next year
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 9 @ 11:37 AM ET
The thing about these Stamkos is going to Toronto posters, is that if/when Stamkos doesn't come to Toronto, the rest of us will hear about it for the next few years. The two or three saying this stuff will bugger off and leave us to mop up the poop.
- walshyleafsfan


Yeah, but all the "Dream On Leaf Fans, Babcock will never coach the Leafs" are nowhere to be found now.
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