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1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Dec 9 @ 10:15 AM ET
Still not sure why the Leafs would need to give compensation to Detroit for a guy who's contract expired.
- Feeling Glucky?


Equally mind boggling is compensating a team for hiring a coach they fired. Especially when it's Tortorella.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Dec 9 @ 10:16 AM ET


that was quick

- Garnie

meh it wasn't offensive but I'm not banned. Perhaps it is provocative in the sense that the discussion that would follow is not one we wanna have on HB. Oh well
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 9 @ 10:19 AM ET


that was quick

- Garnie[/quote

That's what she said..
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Dec 9 @ 10:19 AM ET
I'm thinking Tkatchuk or little Nylander with the first pick, somewhere in the 4-6 range. Pens pick could be a defenceman, or Debrincat if no one has picked him. Assuming they reach the playoffs.
- BetterCallSaul


I doubt Nylander will be in 4-6 range.
Leafs really need a d-man, and I personally do think Chychrun is the real deal.
Chychrun-Rielly would make a great pairing on D.

If Leafs fall out of top10 range with their pick, I could definitely see them moving the 11-20 pick(s) as well for a top talent drafted in first round / 2nd round 2015 or 2014, or a young starting goalie (Gibson / Vasilevskiy).
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Dec 9 @ 10:21 AM ET
Daesh




ISIS: The militant group, which began as the Iraqi branch of al Qaeda during the U.S. occupation, gained this name after it invaded Syria in 2013. ISIS is short for "Islamic State in Iraq and Syria," or "Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham," which is an old Arabic term for the area.

ISIL: ISIL translates to “Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.” The Levant is a geographical term that refers to the eastern shore of the Mediterranean -- Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Israel and Jordan. It’s the term the U.S. government uses since the "Levant" is apparently a better translation for al-Sham, the Arabic name for the region.

Daesh: This is a term the militant group hates. French President François Hollande has used it since the attacks Friday, and first used it in September 2014. It’s an Arabic acronym for “al-Dawla al-Islamiya fi al-Iraq wa al-Sham.” It can sometimes be spelled DAIISH, Da'esh or Daech, a popular French version. The hacktivist group Anonymous and President Barack Obama have used the term since the deadly terrorist attacks in Paris.

Thanks to Arabic wordplay, it could also be an insult

- poohcrumbs


It could also be an insult in English. Daeshbags.
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Dec 9 @ 10:21 AM ET
Equally mind boggling is compensating a team for hiring a coach they fired. Especially when it's Tortorella.
- 1979AD

Babcock was still under contract we had to file the paper work for permission to speak to him , agreeing to give up compensation if we hired Mike Babcock
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Dec 9 @ 10:23 AM ET
I doubt Nylander will be in 4-6 range.
Leafs really need a d-man, and I personally do think Chychrun is the real deal.
Chychrun-Rielly would make a great pairing on D.

If Leafs fall out of top10 range with their pick, I could definitely see them moving the 11-20 pick(s) as well for a top talent drafted in first round / 2nd round 2015 or 2014, or a young starting goalie (Gibson / Vasilevskiy).

- MaximusAurelius



I could see that, if their guy is taken, move down
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 9 @ 10:23 AM ET
I doubt Nylander will be in 4-6 range.
Leafs really need a d-man, and I personally do think Chychrun is the real deal.
Chychrun-Rielly would make a great pairing on D.

If Leafs fall out of top10 range with their pick, I could definitely see them moving the 11-20 pick(s) as well for a top talent drafted in first round / 2nd round 2015 or 2014, or a young starting goalie (Gibson / Vasilevskiy).

- MaximusAurelius



Stay the course.. Trade Reimer if Sparks looks like a decent option later in the season.
Sparks/Bernier next Season. dont waste assets on Goalies who are such unknowns.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 9 @ 10:27 AM ET

Stay the course.. Trade Reimer if Sparks looks like a decent option later in the season.
Sparks/Bernier next Season. dont waste assets on Goalies who are such unknowns.

- senstroll


Just put Bernie in for the rest of the way, and we will back in the Matthews lottery quickly.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
I doubt Nylander will be in 4-6 range.
Leafs really need a d-man, and I personally do think Chychrun is the real deal.
Chychrun-Rielly would make a great pairing on D.

If Leafs fall out of top10 range with their pick, I could definitely see them moving the 11-20 pick(s) as well for a top talent drafted in first round / 2nd round 2015 or 2014, or a young starting goalie (Gibson / Vasilevskiy).

- MaximusAurelius




What makes you sold on chychrun?


Nylander will be much closer to top 5 than still around at late teens.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Dec 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
Babcock was still under contract we had to file the paper work for permission to speak to him , agreeing to give up compensation if we hired Mike Babcock
- poohcrumbs


I can accept this. Giving up a 3rd for the old man with the funny accent though
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Dec 9 @ 10:30 AM ET

Stay the course.. Trade Reimer if Sparks looks like a decent option later in the season.
Sparks/Bernier next Season. dont waste assets on Goalies who are such unknowns.

- senstroll


At draft, when you know what position you're going to pick, and it's a 10-20ovr pick, to get Gibson or Vasilevskiy for a 11th-20th overall pick + some mid-level player or pick would be a great deal for the Leafs.

Bernier's done.
Reimer is a great backup, but he needs games to get to his best level; he's not a top20 starting goalie.
Sparks looks like a decent backup goalie as well; to me it seems he's giving up way too many rebounds though which will eventually result in more goals against.

If you can get a almost 100% sure future top15 goalie (which Gibson and Vasilevskiy) seem to be, Leafs should not doubt to do so.

When Bobrovsky was available at Philadelphia, I suggested on the boards to get him - most in here were against the idea of giving up Reimer for him...
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Dec 9 @ 10:31 AM ET
Just put Bernie in for the rest of the way, and we will back in the Matthews lottery quickly.
- bixll


All the loser teams at the bottom are keeping pace so it's still anyone's game to be the worst of the worst.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Dec 9 @ 10:31 AM ET
dont do this to me again
- poohcrumbs


you are making this too easy

.......

said the stranger in the coat
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 9 @ 10:32 AM ET
What makes you sold on chychrun?


Nylander will be much closer to top 5 than still around at late teens.

- burn


He is watching him play, instead of the draft charts.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Dec 9 @ 10:32 AM ET
good buddy, sorry for the delay you know how it goes.

took the lil man to see santa at bass pro on the weekend, good times!

got a bunch of chicken wings for lunch today, im amped!

- Lucas Neilson


hahaha sweet! cant go wrong with wings!

i think this next week and half may be the longest in recent memory... 2 weeks off .. the 18th is the last day for me.. and i doubt much in the way of anything happens next week
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Dec 9 @ 10:33 AM ET
All the loser teams at the bottom are keeping pace so it's still anyone's game to be the worst of the worst.
- markmark


A lot of parity in the league at the moment.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 9 @ 10:34 AM ET
At draft, when you know what position you're going to pick, and it's a 10-20ovr pick, to get Gibson or Vasilevskiy for a 11th-20th overall pick + some mid-level player or pick would be a great deal for the Leafs.

Bernier's done.
Reimer is a great backup, but he needs games to get to his best level; he's not a top20 starting goalie.
Sparks looks like a decent backup goalie as well; to me it seems he's giving up way too many rebounds though which will eventually result in more goals against.

If you can get a almost 100% sure future top15 goalie (which Gibson and Vasilevskiy) seem to be, Leafs should not doubt to do so.

When Bobrovsky was available at Philadelphia, I suggested on the boards to get him - most in here were against the idea of giving up Reimer for him...

- MaximusAurelius



poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Dec 9 @ 10:35 AM ET
I can accept this. Giving up a 3rd for the old man with the funny accent though
- 1979AD



agreed
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Dec 9 @ 10:36 AM ET
What makes you sold on chychrun?


Nylander will be much closer to top 5 than still around at late teens.

- burn


I like very much how he knows how to play hockey on different pace levels..
knows when to speed things up, and when to speed things down.
For me, that's the biggest difference between top players (Marner is exceptional in this aspect as well) and 'just ok' NHL players (ie Phaneuf, Kadri).
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Dec 9 @ 10:36 AM ET
At draft, when you know what position you're going to pick, and it's a 10-20ovr pick, to get Gibson or Vasilevskiy for a 11th-20th overall pick + some mid-level player or pick would be a great deal for the Leafs.

Bernier's done.
Reimer is a great backup, but he needs games to get to his best level; he's not a top20 starting goalie.
Sparks looks like a decent backup goalie as well; to me it seems he's giving up way too many rebounds though which will eventually result in more goals against.

If you can get a almost 100% sure future top15 goalie (which Gibson and Vasilevskiy) seem to be, Leafs should not doubt to do so.

When Bobrovsky was available at Philadelphia, I suggested on the boards to get him - most in here were against the idea of giving up Reimer for him... :lol:

- MaximusAurelius


How nice of you to point out. Any other suggestions/proclamations you've made over the last couple of years that didn't work out so well?
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Dec 9 @ 10:36 AM ET
you are making this too easy

.......

said the stranger in the coat

- Dozzer



is this real life


Im leaving


sick of setting myself up
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 9 @ 10:36 AM ET
He is watching him play, instead of the draft charts.
- bixll



Then I may be worried what he sees in him. Not dominating, no improvement from last year. Im not sold.

Imthink the scouts are starting to drop him in the rankings.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Dec 9 @ 10:37 AM ET
At draft, when you know what position you're going to pick, and it's a 10-20ovr pick, to get Gibson or Vasilevskiy for a 11th-20th overall pick + some mid-level player or pick would be a great deal for the Leafs.

Bernier's done.
Reimer is a great backup, but he needs games to get to his best level; he's not a top20 starting goalie.
Sparks looks like a decent backup goalie as well; to me it seems he's giving up way too many rebounds though which will eventually result in more goals against.

If you can get a almost 100% sure future top15 goalie (which Gibson and Vasilevskiy) seem to be, Leafs should not doubt to do so.

When Bobrovsky was available at Philadelphia, I suggested on the boards to get him - most in here were against the idea of giving up Reimer for him...

- MaximusAurelius


remember the oilers saying that about Dubnyk?

yeah... keep the pre-cum to the bedroom.. with hockey players it requires patience
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Dec 9 @ 10:37 AM ET
A lot of parity in the league at the moment.
- bixll


In all the worst ways
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