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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 8 @ 3:22 PM ET
$3.75M for this year and next. They're pretty close to the cap, so they'll get $3M+ in space.
- jmatchett383


I hope Dupuis is on the phone with Vinny right now planning a nice long vacation away from the cold, cold ice of hockey.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 8 @ 3:22 PM ET
3,750,000
- BulliesPhan87


Thank you, sir.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 8 @ 3:23 PM ET
What other executives get hired away and compensated for?
- Scoob


the rule was put in place for teams who have guys move onto different positions in other organizations. believe yzerman was the biggest of note. plenty of guys move around...even hextall. both leaving and coming to the flyers.

it was a rule that made sense until they started using it on guys who have been fired
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 8 @ 3:25 PM ET
Maybe they found something is really messed up with his back and his doctors said he needs to step away from the game.
- J35Bacher


MAYBE IT WAS HIS BACK THIS WHOLE TIME THAT'S BEEN HINDERING HIM AND HE GETS A STEEL SPINE AND COMES BACK AND SCORES 60 GOALS TO END THE SEASON!!

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 8 @ 3:26 PM ET
So Dupius is taking the "Pronger Retirment".

Maybe Vinny's back could be so messed up the Flyers think it is a risk to play him and LTIR him?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 8 @ 3:27 PM ET
Thank you, sir.
- wolfhounds

no prob bross
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 8 @ 3:27 PM ET
Wait, he's not just walking away leaving money on the table?
- Scoob


He should. He's made millions of dollars already. Guys who make millions of dollars usually turn down millions of guaranteed dollars.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 8 @ 3:28 PM ET
the rule was put in place for teams who have guys move onto different positions in other organizations. believe yzerman was the biggest of note. plenty of guys move around...even hextall. both leaving and coming to the flyers.

it was a rule that made sense until they started using it on guys who have been fired

- YuenglingJagr


Yes, GMs and coaches. I meant other types of executives.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 8 @ 3:29 PM ET
He should. He's made millions of dollars already. Guys who make millions of dollars usually turn down millions of guaranteed dollars.
- jmatchett383


HB logic
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 8 @ 3:30 PM ET
That's ok if your doing it for a year. But you have to find talent in later rounds or on other teams. It's funny all these other teams are able to find talent and build competitive teams. Just not the sixers.
- J35Bacher

But that is not the reality at all..

The idea in any sport is to win it all. Like I said earlier, over the past 33 years only 9 different teams have won a championship.

Those teams:
Lakers (KAJ, Magic, Kobe, Shaq)
Spurs (Robinson, Duncan, Parker)
Heat (Shaq, Mourning, Wade, Lebron)
Celtics (Bird, Walton, Parish, McHale, Ainge)
Rockets (Olajuwon, Thorpe, Maxwell)
Pistons (Dumars, Laimbeer, Thomas, Ben and Sheed Wallace, Rip Hamilton)
Bulls (Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Grant, Salley, etc)
Mavericks (Nowitzki, Kidd)
Warriors (Curry, Thompson, Iguodala)

In order to win it all, you need to pretty much have 2-3 great players.




J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 8 @ 3:30 PM ET
MAYBE IT WAS HIS BACK THIS WHOLE TIME THAT'S BEEN HINDERING HIM AND HE GETS A STEEL SPINE AND COMES BACK AND SCORES 60 GOALS TO END THE SEASON!!


- Streit2ThePoint



I'll send you a bottle of your favorite scotch and a stripper gram if he does that.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 8 @ 3:30 PM ET
MAYBE IT WAS HIS BACK THIS WHOLE TIME THAT'S BEEN HINDERING HIM AND HE GETS A STEEL SPINE AND COMES BACK AND SCORES 60 GOALS TO END THE SEASON!!


- Streit2ThePoint

holy wow I'm excited already
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 8 @ 3:30 PM ET
That's ok if your doing it for a year. But you have to find talent in later rounds or on other teams. It's funny all these other teams are able to find talent and build competitive teams. Just not the sixers.
- J35Bacher


Top players in the NBA
Curry 7th overall
Harden 3rd overall
Durant 2nd overall
Westbrook 3rd overall
Anthony Davis 1st overall
Lebron 1st overall
Aldridge 2nd overall
Kevin Love 5th overall
Kawhi Leonard 15th overall
Kyrie Irving 1st overall
John Wall 1st overall
Boogie Cousins 3rd overall
Damian Lillard 6th overall
Draymond Green 35th overall
Klay Thompson 11th overall
Marc Gasol 48th overall
Carmello Anthony 3rd overall
Dwayne Wade 4th overall
Chris Bosh 5th overall
Chris Paul 3rd overall
Blake Griffin 1st overall
Jimmy Butler 30th overall
Kyle Lowry 24th overall
Mike Conley 3rd overall
Dwight Howard 1st overall
Al Horford 3rd overall
Paul George 10th overall
Andre Drummond 9th overall
Tim Duncan 1st overall
Paul Milsap 47th overall

These are the 30 best players in the league IMO (in not particular order).
Only 7 were picked outside the top 10.
11 were picked after the top 5.
19 were picked in the top 5.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 8 @ 3:32 PM ET
But that is not the reality at all..

The idea in any sport is to win it all. Like I said earlier, over the past 33 years only 9 different teams have won a championship.

Those teams:
Lakers (KAJ, Magic, Kobe, Shaq)
Spurs (Robinson, Duncan, Parker)
Heat (Shaq, Mourning, Wade, Lebron)
Celtics (Bird, Walton, Parish, McHale, Ainge)
Rockets (Olajuwon, Thorpe, Maxwell)
Pistons (Dumars, Laimbeer, Thomas, Ben and Sheed Wallace, Rip Hamilton)
Bulls (Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Grant, Salley, etc)
Mavericks (Nowitzki, Kidd)
Warriors (Curry, Thompson, Iguodala)

In order to win it all, you need to pretty much have 2-3 great players.

- jak521


And the most effective way of getting those player is picking in the top 5.




Also, it's cute that you use Iguodala instead of Green in the Warriors top 3.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 8 @ 3:33 PM ET
But that is not the reality at all..

The idea in any sport is to win it all. Like I said earlier, over the past 33 years only 9 different teams have won a championship.

Those teams:
Lakers (KAJ, Magic, Kobe, Shaq)
Spurs (Robinson, Duncan, Parker)
Heat (Shaq, Mourning, Wade, Lebron)
Celtics (Bird, Walton, Parish, McHale, Ainge)
Rockets (Olajuwon, Thorpe, Maxwell)
Pistons (Dumars, Laimbeer, Thomas, Ben and Sheed Wallace, Rip Hamilton)
Bulls (Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Grant, Salley, etc)
Mavericks (Nowitzki, Kidd)
Warriors (Curry, Thompson, Iguodala)

In order to win it all, you need to pretty much have 2-3 great players.

- jak521


"Great?" I'd say one superstar and one good player.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 8 @ 3:34 PM ET
And the most effective way of getting those player is picking in the top 5.




Also, it's cute that you use Iguodala instead of Green in the Warriors top 3.

- PhillySportsGuy

the dingus already admitted he's from delco, please don't humiliate him further
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 8 @ 3:34 PM ET
And the most effective way of getting those player is picking in the top 5.




Also, it's cute that you use Iguodala instead of Green in the Warriors top 3.

- PhillySportsGuy


Hah I know right?! And I'm pretty sure Lebron plays for the Cavaliers
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 8 @ 3:35 PM ET
And the most effective way of getting those player is picking in the top 5.




Also, it's cute that you use Iguodala instead of Green in the Warriors top 3.

- PhillySportsGuy

He was a huge part... defensively he is great. Sorta like how I included Rodman because he could rebound better than anyone. Also, he did sorta kinda win the MVP of the Finals.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 8 @ 3:35 PM ET
I didn't say it is easy. But the Sixers aren't even trying. The players they have on the team are there to purposely lose. They haven't tried to find any players to build with other then draft picks.
- J35Bacher


What I don't understand is how it took Kawhi Leonard and Jimmy Butler 4-5 years to become all stars, but you can make declarative statements about Covington and Grant after they've played 80 NBA games. Neither of them will be as good as Leonard or Butler (they are both legit top 10 players), but to say they can't develop into good starters is a bit ridiculous.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 8 @ 3:36 PM ET
the dingus already admitted he's from delco, please don't humiliate him further
- BulliesPhan87


I feel even worse now
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 8 @ 3:36 PM ET
What I don't understand is how it took Kawhi Leonard and Jimmy Butler 4-5 years to become all stars, but you can make declarative statements about Covington and Grant after they've played 80 NBA games. Neither of them will be as good as Leonard or Butler (they are both legit top 10 players), but to say they can't develop into good starters is a bit ridiculous.
- PhillySportsGuy


Rabinijad took years to become where he is at now
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 8 @ 3:36 PM ET
Hah I know right?! And I'm pretty sure Lebron plays for the Cavaliers
- Streit2ThePoint

Did he not win championships with the Heat?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 8 @ 3:37 PM ET
He was a huge part... defensively he is great. Sorta like how I included Rodman because he could rebound better than anyone. Also, he did sorta kinda win the MVP of the Finals.
- jak521


For the Bulls, you could just put "Jordan" and that would be enough. Adding "Pippen" is overkill.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 8 @ 3:37 PM ET
He was a huge part... defensively he is great. Sorta like how I included Rodman because he could rebound better than anyone.
- jak521


Green might be a top 10 player right now because of his versatility. He's amazing. Having a guy who can guard centers, but play like a guard on offense is every coaches wet dream.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 8 @ 3:37 PM ET
Did he not win championships with the Heat?
- jak521


Irrelevant
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