How is the league going to force their hand? How much leverage does the league have in team affairs? I honestly don't know more than people saying the NBA by laws are being violated or something.
- jmatchett383

Just applying a ton of pressure. The owners and agents are both pissed. They can just refuse to do business with the Sixers until they change.

Yea, that never made any sense.
- MJL

I'm totally impartial on both the rule and abolishing it.

I think there were reports now that the league kind of force Colangelo on to them because they needed to speed up the rebuild quicker.

My problem with the sixers is they didn't even try to find untapped talent. Yes, high picks will likely net you a good player. But they haven't even tried to find a player like Jimmy Butler or a guy who has potential to turn into something.
- J35Bacher

Yes they have!! Jerami Grant and Robert Covington are both these types of high ceiling players

Just applying a ton of pressure. The owners and agents are both pissed. They can just refuse to do business with the Sixers until they change.
- PhillySportsGuy

But that seems like a Catch 22. The only way they're ever going to improve, aside from drafting, is by trading with the owners and working out FA deals with agents. If the owners/agents stop doing business with them, then they can't improve, and will continue to suck whether intentional or not.

Spoken like someone who knows nothing about the team. They've been without Wroten, Covington and Marshall for much or all of the season. Noel has also been hurt. Covington is probably their best all around player (yes better than Noel and Okafor). Wroten is also an NBA player and many teams were interested in trading for him last year until he tore his ACL. Marshall and Jerami Grant would be welcomed on any NBA team, but likely wouldn't see a ton of minutes. Their problem is that they're playing young guys in big minutes. They stay in just about every game, but then (frank) up in the final minutes because they don't have the star player to give the ball to. Wroten isn't great, but he'll help in that regard.
- PhillySportsGuy

The guys you list are marginal players at best. Grant might be a bench guy. Covington is a bench guy. Marshall could be a back up guard. Wroten is a bench guy.


The Spurs bench and reserves have more talent then the Sixers.

While I'm on a roll with these impartially hot takes, I don't take issue with the Sixers plan (i.e. tanking the f out of this jawn), but also don't see any progress or end game.

Yes they have!! Jerami Grant and Robert Covington are both these types of high ceiling players
- PhillySportsGuy

I hope your playing with me?

You really think Covington is a high ceiling guy?

The guys you list are marginal players at best. Grant might be a bench guy. Covington is a bench guy. Marshall could be a back up guard. Wroten is a bench guy.


The Spurs bench and reserves have more talent then the Sixers.
- J35Bacher

Bold post, sir

They're going to move the team from Philly to Newark or Camden? Solid investment advice there
- PhillySportsGuy

They're moving to the Philippines. They will be the Manila Folders

While I'm on a role with these impartially hot takes, I don't take issue with the Sixers plan (i.e. tanking the f out of this jawn), but also don't see any progress or end game.
- BulliesPhan87

I was okay with it for a year or two, as they were stuck in a no man's land. However, I don't think they're any closer to being a contender now that they were before Hinkie started. In fact, they're quite possible even worse off. I think a new tactic would be nice.

This team won't win 10 games.

Other then Okafor and Noel they have no legit NBA players.
- J35Bacher

wroten..stauskas..canaan..Covington.

I disagree completely that it's basically pointless to start moving forward. It if it's true, good for the league. Hinkie is as close to falling on his face as he is to succeeding, if not closer. I've watched enough games to know that has nothing has changed about their perception in the league. They're pretty much an embarrassment, which is why the league stepped in, and they hired Colangelo.
- MJL

That's your opinion. In reality, I think the league is more concerned that this will end up working out and it will become the norm in the NBA. Now that Colangelo is there, they can give him the credit if it turns around.

I'm sure as poop Hinkie will be fired eventually, but all the groundwork he laid will be the reason the team improves. It will be like the Ed Wade situation where Pat Gillick got the credit for winning a WS with a bunch of players Wade drafted and developed.

I hope your playing with me?

You really think Covington is a high ceiling guy?
- J35Bacher

He's a wing player who is good on defense (can guard 3 positions) and shoots 40%+ from 3. Not sure if you follow the league, but those types of players are very hard to find.

Bold post, sir
- BulliesPhan87

I was okay with it for a year or two, as they were stuck in a no man's land. However, I don't think they're any closer to being a contender now that they were before Hinkie started. In fact, they're quite possible even worse off. I think a new tactic would be nice.
- jmatchett383

this is hinkies 3rd year I think. how long does hextall get before he has to apply a new tactic?

I was okay with it for a year or two, as they were stuck in a no man's land. However, I don't think they're any closer to being a contender now that they were before Hinkie started. In fact, they're quite possible even worse off. I think a new tactic would be nice.
- jmatchett383

how dare you respond with sincerity on the tail of an internet feud

but yeah, p much.

The guys you list are marginal players at best. Grant might be a bench guy. Covington is a bench guy. Marshall could be a back up guard. Wroten is a bench guy.


The Spurs bench and reserves have more talent then the Sixers.
- J35Bacher

Covington would start on a lot of teams. Also, comparing them to the Spurs is a bit dramatic. They're probably the 2nd deepest team in the NBA. Their bench is mostly veterans players too.

this is hinkies 3rd year I think. how long does hextall get before he has to apply a new tactic?
- rinaldo

Hextall ices a team that can at least compete with most teams in the league and has won more than 1 game this year. If they Flyers finished in the bottom-3 of the NHL for 3 straight years and showed no signs of improvement, then people would be much less forgiving.

That's your opinion. In reality, I think the league is more concerned that this will end up working out and it will become the norm in the NBA. Now that Colangelo is there, they can give him the credit if it turns around.

I'm sure as poop Hinkie will be fired eventually, but all the groundwork he laid will be the reason the team improves. It will be like the Ed Wade situation where Pat Gillick got the credit for winning a WS with a bunch of players Wade drafted and developed.
- PhillySportsGuy

What ground work? All he did was blow up a team and get picks. It's not hard to pick guys when your drafting top 5. And one of his picks might never play for the Sixers.

Ed Wade did draft some good players but Gillick was the one who found the key players like Lidge and Werth who helped bring the title.

When his Hinkie going to find those players and not just rely on drafting top 5 every year. He needs to find guys like Jimmy Buttler. Paul Geroge. Marc Gasol. DeAndre Jordan. Later picks who had talent and ended up flourishing

this is hinkies 3rd year I think. how long does hextall get before he has to apply a new tactic?
- rinaldo

Bad analogy. Ask again but this time use the Oilers as the example.

how dare you respond with sincerity on the tail of an internet feud

but yeah, p much.
- BulliesPhan87

I have no feud with you. We had a spat, said our pieces, had makeup sex, and now we're good.

I believe that the reasoning was that most coaches/GMs are never "fired" but they are "relieved", meaning that (until their contracts run out) they are still under contract from their former team, they just get a very long paid vacation. Yes, it's a stupid rule, but that's the reasoning.
- jmatchett383

I understand what the reasoning is, still never made sense.

Pascal Dupuis is done with hockey, per the Pens twitter.

But that seems like a Catch 22. The only way they're ever going to improve, aside from drafting, is by trading with the owners and working out FA deals with agents. If the owners/agents stop doing business with them, then they can't improve, and will continue to suck whether intentional or not.
- jmatchett383

People have been saying for years that other GMs hate Hinkie, but for some reason he's made more trades than any other GM.

Hinkie gave the owners different paths and they chose this one. You can't ask your GM to tank then neuter him when the assets finally begin to take shape. I doubt Hinkie trades MCW if he knew he'd be fired before that Laker pick materialized.

Pascal Dupuis is done with hockey, per the Pens twitter.
- BulliesPhan87

Always found it strange he came back to begin with