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rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Dec 8 @ 2:34 PM ET
That's big!
- MJL

huge. beyond big.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 8 @ 2:34 PM ET
My gut tells me that big Jah wasn't thrilled going there in the first place.
- Scoob



Probably not.

I forgot but is the draft lottery after kids declare for the draft? Like if the Sixers win the draft does Simmons say " (frank) that, I am staying at LSU"
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 8 @ 2:36 PM ET
I also blame the Sixers a little. Look at the Bucks. They signed a great vet in Garnett so that Karl Anthony Towns had someone to mentor and kind of lead him in his first season. Help him be a pro. Kind of like Briere with Giroux and Couturier.

The sixers don't have that so these kids are on their own in a way.

- J35Bacher


I agree that he needs a baby sitter/mentor type, but that's not the Sixers' fault. The trouble he's gotten himself into is his own fault. The Sixers didn't take steps to try to prevent it, but they played no part in any of his off-court actions.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 8 @ 2:36 PM ET
Probably not.

I forgot but is the draft lottery after kids declare for the draft? Like if the Sixers win the draft does Simmons say " (frank) that, I am staying at LSU"

- J35Bacher




Yes, declarations are first.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 8 @ 2:37 PM ET
That's big!
- MJL

But not unexpected. It was a universally unpopular rule, and not in a hush hush kind of way.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 8 @ 2:37 PM ET
I agree that he needs a baby sitter/mentor type, but that's not the Sixers' fault. The trouble he's gotten himself into is his own fault. The Sixers didn't take steps to try to prevent it, but they played no part in any of his off-court actions.
- jmatchett383


Oh, I agree 100%. I'm not letting him off the hook. He's old enough to know better.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 8 @ 2:38 PM ET
I agree that he needs a baby sitter/mentor type, but that's not the Sixers' fault. The trouble he's gotten himself into is his own fault. The Sixers didn't take steps to try to prevent it, but they played no part in any of his off-court actions.
- jmatchett383



And I agree.

I just thought they could have taken some steps to prevent this maybe. What did they think would happen with no vets and a bunch of rich kids.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 8 @ 2:38 PM ET
But not unexpected. It was a universally unpopular rule, and not in a hush hush kind of way.
- BulliesPhan87

Sorry I am an ignorant delcoite... what does it mean
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 8 @ 2:38 PM ET
SiriusXM NHL Network @SiriusXMNHL
As per @SWhyno: #NHL Board of Governors eliminating the executive compensation policy

- BulliesPhan87

big if true
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 8 @ 2:39 PM ET


Yes, declarations are first.

- Scoob



Thanks.

I forgot the timing of it all.

So then Simmons is probably praying the Sixers don't win the lottery.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 8 @ 2:39 PM ET
But not unexpected. It was a universally unpopular rule, and not in a hush hush kind of way.
- BulliesPhan87



Honestly, I have no idea what it even is.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 8 @ 2:39 PM ET
When are we actually going to see the results from all these moves that he's made that have worked out?
- MJL


Can't answer that. The whole idea of "The Process™" is to give yourself as many opportunities to find talent as possible. I think it's coming to a head this offseason though. The Sixers greatest asset was always patience. It's basically pointless to start moving forward if you don't have that foundational piece. It appears the league has finally had enough and is going to force their hand. If you actually watched the team this year, you'd recognize how subtle little things have changed the perception of the team. In the end, I bet they won't end up being the worst team in the league. They haven't ever finished with the worst record in the league under Hinkie.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 8 @ 2:40 PM ET
Honestly, I have no idea what it even is.
- MJL



I guessed that it stops the nonsense of compensating with picks for the hiring of a fired, er, "relieved of coaching duties" coach.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 8 @ 2:40 PM ET
Honestly, I have no idea what it even is.
- MJL

In short, as of Jan 1 nobody will get draft picks for hiring ex-coaches and ex-GMs.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 8 @ 2:41 PM ET
I even wonder if the sixers will stay in Philadelphia. Once they destroy the rivershark stadium they could build a facility there. Also with him owning the Devils they could possibly move there once the lease is up.

This ownership group is weird as I don't think they are long for it.

- J35Bacher


They're going to move the team from Philly to Newark or Camden? Solid investment advice there
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 8 @ 2:41 PM ET
Can't answer that. The whole idea of "The Process™" is to give yourself as many opportunities to find talent as possible. I think it's coming to a head this offseason though. The Sixers greatest asset was always patience. It's basically pointless to start moving forward if you don't have that foundational piece. It appears the league has finally had enough and is going to force their hand. If you actually watched the team this year, you'd recognize how subtle little things have changed the perception of the team. In the end, I bet they won't end up being the worst team in the league. They haven't ever finished with the worst record in the league under Hinkie.
- PhillySportsGuy



This team won't win 10 games.

Other then Okafor and Noel they have no legit NBA players.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 8 @ 2:41 PM ET
Can't answer that. The whole idea of "The Process™" is to give yourself as many opportunities to find talent as possible. I think it's coming to a head this offseason though. The Sixers greatest asset was always patience. It's basically pointless to start moving forward if you don't have that foundational piece. It appears the league has finally had enough and is going to force their hand. If you actually watched the team this year, you'd recognize how subtle little things have changed the perception of the team. In the end, I bet they won't end up being the worst team in the league. They haven't ever finished with the worst record in the league under Hinkie.
- PhillySportsGuy


How is the league going to force their hand? How much leverage does the league have in team affairs? I honestly don't know more than people saying the NBA by laws are being violated or something.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 8 @ 2:44 PM ET
Sorry I am an ignorant delcoite... what does it mean
- jak521

There is no explaining things to pitiful delconians
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 8 @ 2:45 PM ET
Thanks.

I forgot the timing of it all.

So then Simmons is probably praying the Sixers don't win the lottery.

- J35Bacher


He's really hoping for the Warriors I hear
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 8 @ 2:45 PM ET
How is the league going to force their hand? How much leverage does the league have in team affairs? I honestly don't know more than people saying the NBA by laws are being violated or something.
- jmatchett383



I think there were reports now that the league kind of force Colangelo on to them because they needed to speed up the rebuild quicker.

My problem with the sixers is they didn't even try to find untapped talent. Yes, high picks will likely net you a good player. But they haven't even tried to find a player like Jimmy Butler or a guy who has potential to turn into something.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 8 @ 2:45 PM ET
Can't answer that. The whole idea of "The Process™" is to give yourself as many opportunities to find talent as possible. I think it's coming to a head this offseason though. The Sixers greatest asset was always patience. It's basically pointless to start moving forward if you don't have that foundational piece. It appears the league has finally had enough and is going to force their hand. If you actually watched the team this year, you'd recognize how subtle little things have changed the perception of the team. In the end, I bet they won't end up being the worst team in the league. They haven't ever finished with the worst record in the league under Hinkie.
- PhillySportsGuy



I disagree completely that it's basically pointless to start moving forward. It if it's true, good for the league. Hinkie is as close to falling on his face as he is to succeeding, if not closer. I've watched enough games to know that has nothing has changed about their perception in the league. They're pretty much an embarrassment, which is why the league stepped in, and they hired Colangelo.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 8 @ 2:47 PM ET
In short, as of Jan 1 nobody will get draft picks for hiring ex-coaches and ex-GMs.
- BulliesPhan87



Yea, that never made any sense.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 8 @ 2:49 PM ET
This team won't win 10 games.

Other then Okafor and Noel they have no legit NBA players.

- J35Bacher


Spoken like someone who knows nothing about the team. They've been without Wroten, Covington and Marshall for much or all of the season. Noel has also been hurt. Covington is probably their best all around player (yes better than Noel and Okafor). Wroten is also an NBA player and many teams were interested in trading for him last year until he tore his ACL. Marshall and Jerami Grant would be welcomed on any NBA team, but likely wouldn't see a ton of minutes. Their problem is that they're playing young guys in big minutes. They stay in just about every game, but then (frank) up in the final minutes because they don't have the star player to give the ball to. Wroten isn't great, but he'll help in that regard.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 8 @ 2:50 PM ET
Yea, that never made any sense.
- MJL


Agred.

Which is why I'm surprised they are getting rid of it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 8 @ 2:50 PM ET
Yea, that never made any sense.
- MJL


I believe that the reasoning was that most coaches/GMs are never "fired" but they are "relieved", meaning that (until their contracts run out) they are still under contract from their former team, they just get a very long paid vacation. Yes, it's a stupid rule, but that's the reasoning.
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