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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Game Day: December 5 vs. Boston Bruins, Panic Mode?
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vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Dec 5 @ 6:35 PM ET
Funny how the Leaf fans accuse us of being obsessed with them yet look who's here.
Are the Canucks playing the Leafs Tonight?

- Marwood

Who's here?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 5 @ 6:41 PM ET
LUcic with two goals today ( 9th) . Looks like he could be on his way to a twenty goal year.
westcoastleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corrado will learn from this a, BC
Joined: 08.17.2010

Dec 5 @ 6:55 PM ET
I must say, if there's one thing that cheers me up as a Canucks fan it's the fact that our rebuild is already more on track than the leafs
- neem55


Keep telling yourself that pal
westcoastleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corrado will learn from this a, BC
Joined: 08.17.2010

Dec 5 @ 6:56 PM ET
Bibeau and Sparks may be the best Leaf tandem in the last two decades. Thoughts?
- VANTEL


Who knows. Goalies are such a hard thing to predict. Bernier got a shutout last night...in the ahl
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 5 @ 6:57 PM ET
Keep telling yourself that pal
- westcoastleaf

You have had a 12 year head start
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 5 @ 6:58 PM ET
Who knows. Goalies are such a hard thing to predict. Bernier got a shutout last night...in the ahl
- westcoastleaf

They should keep him there . They guy has been brutal this year
westcoastleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corrado will learn from this a, BC
Joined: 08.17.2010

Dec 5 @ 7:01 PM ET
You have had a 12 year head start
- VANTEL


Well we would have if not for Brian Burke/Dave Nonis. Sorry I know I'm not supposed to say those names around here
westcoastleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corrado will learn from this a, BC
Joined: 08.17.2010

Dec 5 @ 7:02 PM ET
They should keep him there . They guy has been brutal this year
- VANTEL


Yes he's been terrible. That being said he should be brought back and made number one asap. #tanknation
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 5 @ 7:06 PM ET
Well we would have if not for Brian Burke/Dave Nonis. Sorry I know I'm not supposed to say those names around here
- westcoastleaf

It fine . We are use to having our throwaways show up on the Leafs roster now. I just am going to have trouble maybe next year with Hamhuis there but looking forward to seeing Higgins there in two years.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 5 @ 7:06 PM ET
Yes he's been terrible. That being said he should be brought back and made number one asap. #tanknation
- westcoastleaf

Agreed
westcoastleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corrado will learn from this a, BC
Joined: 08.17.2010

Dec 5 @ 7:14 PM ET
It fine . We are use to having our throwaways show up on the Leafs roster now. I just am going to have trouble maybe next year with Hamhuis there but looking forward to seeing Higgins there in two years.
- VANTEL


No thanks to both. What happened to Hamhuis? His game seems to have taken a dramatic decline
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 5 @ 7:16 PM ET
No thanks to both. What happened to Hamhuis? His game seems to have taken a dramatic decline
- westcoastleaf

Age
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 5 @ 7:17 PM ET
Keep telling yourself that pal
- westcoastleaf

Well you have Kadri up the middle and Bozak (which I think speaks for itself). You have Dion Phaneuf at 7 mil per year for another six (which, again, speaks for itself). You do have Morgan Rielly, but your D corps is one of the few in the league that is worse than ours. I like McCann and Horvat up the middle and the fact that the Sedins are role models. I look at the leafs role models (I'm not sure who they are ? Phnaeuf )
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 5 @ 7:19 PM ET
So what if Edler is better than Hamonic right now? By the time we will be ready to compete, Hamonic will be better than Edler. Edler is already part of the past that we need to move past thinking of the future.
- Retinalz

It was about value, Edler for Hamonic straight up sure, but the Calgary guy suggested we may need to add...I say no way.
westcoastleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corrado will learn from this a, BC
Joined: 08.17.2010

Dec 5 @ 7:20 PM ET
Well you have Kadri up the middle and Bozak (which I think speaks for itself). You have Dion Phaneuf at 7 mil per year for another six (which, again, speaks for itself). You do have Morgan Rielly, but your D corps is one of the few in the league that is worse than ours. I like McCann and Horvat up the middle and the fact that the Sedins are role models. I look at the leafs role models (I'm not sure who they are ? Phnaeuf )
- neem55


Kadri may be part of the rebuild but bozak isn't. You're also conveniently missing William Nylander and Mitch Marner from your comparison
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 5 @ 7:22 PM ET

Have to head out for awhile, try to keep the trash talk civil....please.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 5 @ 7:25 PM ET
Have to head out for awhile, try to keep the trash talk civil....please.
- Makita

I'll monitor it for you. Send me your cell number , I'll call you if it gets out of hand
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 5 @ 7:25 PM ET
Kadri may be part of the rebuild but bozak isn't. You're also conveniently missing William Nylander and Mitch Marner from your comparison
- westcoastleaf


Neither are big enough to play center and play what is known as "wing", which is why they are absent. But yes when it comes to undersized and very talented, you've got us. Though don't count Shinkurak and J.Subban out
Bozak is on the roster and thus is part of the rebuild (your denial aside).
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 5 @ 7:27 PM ET
Kadri may be part of the rebuild but bozak isn't. You're also conveniently missing William Nylander and Mitch Marner from your comparison
- westcoastleaf


I've also noticed you've ignored the role models portion... Not a Phaneuf fan?
Phaneuf=Sbisa, 7mil>3.5. I'll take it.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Dec 5 @ 7:29 PM ET
Kadri may be part of the rebuild but bozak isn't. You're also conveniently missing William Nylander and Mitch Marner from your comparison
- westcoastleaf


And Demko and Virtanen.

I'd say that right now we are close to equal in terms of depth of prospects, however I think that we have a better team now and will move on from the twins in 3 years and you will move on from your captain in 7.
To will get a better draft pick them us until the twins retire so unless we trade vets for picks in a year or so Toronto will then be farther ahead.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Dec 5 @ 7:30 PM ET
It was about value, Edler for Hamonic straight up sure, but the Calgary guy suggested we may need to add...I say no way.
- LeftCoaster


Maybe in the off season you can get a straight across but right now they are asking way too high ...they asked for Brodie from Calgary
westcoastleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corrado will learn from this a, BC
Joined: 08.17.2010

Dec 5 @ 7:30 PM ET
Neither are big enough to play center and play what is known as "wing", which is why they are absent. But yes when it comes to undersized and very talented, you've got us. Though don't count Shinkurak and J.Subban out
Bozak is on the roster and thus is part of the rebuild (your denial aside).

- neem55


He's on the team until his contract is done. He wont be part of the team moving forward. As for the size thing that is your opinion. I'm not comparing them but Tyler Johnson is undersized and plays centre and neither mccann or horvat are huge. Nylander has been playing centre all year in the ahl. And marner plays centre in junior but granted that is junior. We will have to wait and see I guess

Edit: Nylander is only an inch shorter than mccann and horvat
westcoastleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corrado will learn from this a, BC
Joined: 08.17.2010

Dec 5 @ 7:33 PM ET
And Demko and Virtanen.

I'd say that right now we are close to equal in terms of depth of prospects, however I think that we have a better team now and will move on from the twins in 3 years and you will move on from your captain in 7.
To will get a better draft pick them us until the twins retire so unless we trade vets for picks in a year or so Toronto will then be farther ahead.

- Pres.cup


Ugh. Don't remind me about Dion. Although he has been better this year for the most part. I agree the canucks are better than the leafs right now. It will be interesting to see what happens when the sedins are done. Do they have two years left after this one?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 5 @ 7:38 PM ET
He's on the team until his contract is done. He wont be part of the team moving forward. As for the size thing that is your opinion. I'm not comparing them but Tyler Johnson is undersized and plays centre and neither mccann or horvat are huge. Nylander has been playing centre all year in the ahl. And marner plays centre in junior but granted that is junior. We will have to wait and see I guess
- westcoastleaf


For sure, to be fair though Bo has got a pretty bulky frame. Marner/Nylander have very similar skillsets and frames, but both are 5'10 or under while both Bo and McCann are 6 feet or over. So I'm not sure what you mean. I will grant you that all of them have yet to truly make it, I'd say Bo looks best out of the four right now but time will tell. Tampa doesn't play two small guys up the middle, it will be interesting to see what they do with KAdri/Marner/Nylander going forward. Granted if you win the Matthews bowl, this will change things significantly.
westcoastleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corrado will learn from this a, BC
Joined: 08.17.2010

Dec 5 @ 7:41 PM ET
For sure, to be fair though Bo has got a pretty bulky frame. Marner/Nylander have very similar skillsets and frames, but both are 5'10 or under while both Bo and McCann are 6 feet or over. So I'm not sure what you mean. I will grant you that all of them have yet to truly make it, I'd say Bo looks best out of the four right now but time will tell. Tampa doesn't play two small guys up the middle, it will be interesting to see what they do with KAdri/Marner/Nylander going forward. Granted if you win the Matthews bowl, this will change things significantly.
- neem55


Nylander is listed at 5'11", Horvat and mccann are listed as 6'0" but I digress. Like you said only time will tell. I think both mccann and horvat are good players for sure. I live in Victoria, most of my friends are van fans so I see a lot of games by default
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