Eberle's 26 by time the season ends, and his contract expires when other key contracts will. Pysyk and McCabe are both young (23 and 22 respectively) and RFAs when their contracts expire.

Eberle's been on the decline in goal scoring since 11/12, and he's obviously too old to have a sudden spike in his production.
- stashu

Agreed.. Too old .

Eberle's 26 by time the season ends, and his contract expires when other key contracts will. Pysyk and McCabe are both young (23 and 22 respectively) and RFAs when their contracts expire.

Eberle's been on the decline in goal scoring since 11/12, and he's obviously too old to have a sudden spike in his production.
- stashu

No GM makes a deal like that unless he can get some sort of assurance from the player's agent that a deal can be done.

I think that's the problem. He's not flashy and most of his success this year has come against weak competition. I would be against this trade right now because there's really no one in the organization that could fill that hole. It'd need to be some kind of 2 for 2 or bigger.
- Sabresfan-365

If Risto wasn't playing so well with Gorges right now, I kind of would love to see how him and Pysyk would look together. Pysyk is comfortable playing on the left, so having the two of them together wouldn't be an issue as far as that goes.

His skating ability will allow him to play a ton of minutes, so I think he could be a good fit there. Though I think he's probably best served as a 3/4 guy.

Who was with Bogo the other night? Was it McCabe or Coli?

Eberle's 26 by time the season ends, and his contract expires when other key contracts will. Pysyk and McCabe are both young (23 and 22 respectively) and RFAs when their contracts expire.

Eberle's been on the decline in goal scoring since 11/12, and he's obviously too old to have a sudden spike in his production.
- stashu

Not to mention we can't say that he hasn't played next to good talent and that's why he hasn't been setting the world on fire with his goal scoring. No one he plays with in Buffalo is going to be amazingly better than the linemates he has had in EDM.

This is a good post.

The only thing I might add is that Guhle looks more prepared to make the jump to the National League than any of our O prospects, so we're ready to reload on D.
- Der Kaiser

Hopefully that's the case. Plus if you do add Eberle, you can move Ennis.

I'm not 100% sure it's the route I would take, I still like Ennis, and really like Pysyk, but this team needs some more speed, and finish

No GM makes a deal like that unless he can get some sort of assurance from the player's agent that a deal can be done.
- buffalofan19

So you'd then want to sign someone who will be 29 to start the first year of his next contract, which would likely be Moulson-esque in years yet higher money?

If Risto wasn't playing so well with Gorges right now, I kind of would love to see how him and Pysyk would look together. Pysyk is comfortable playing on the left, so having the two of them together wouldn't be an issue as far as that goes.

His skating ability will allow him to play a ton of minutes, so I think he could be a good fit there. Though I think he's probably best served as a 3/4 guy.

Who was with Bogo the other night? Was it McCabe or Coli?
- HonkFortheGoose

I think it was McCabe but im not sure either. Might be a little early to have Pysyk face top line competition though.

We also need to remember that Eberle will likely cost Pysyk + 1st +. Are people willing to give both of those up because I don't know if I am

We also need to remember that Eberle will likely cost Pysyk + 1st +. Are people willing to give both of those up because I don't know if I am
- Zschalberg

No.

We also need to remember that Eberle will likely cost Pysyk + 1st +. Are people willing to give both of those up because I don't know if I am
- Zschalberg

Did Kessel even get that kind of return?

So you'd then want to sign someone who will be 29 to start the first year of his next contract, which would likely be Moulson-esque in years yet higher money?
- stashu

But what assets do you give up to get him? That might be the deciding factor. With Ebs you have to give up good assets and pay him 6/year. Not disagreeing with what you've said, but it's reasonable.

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- Michael Pachla

I would cry

Eberle's a solid top line winger and I think a change of scenery would do both him and Edmonton some good, but I don't think he's a good fit in Buffalo. I think there's something to be said for what someone mentioned above, about how Buffalo needs to be bringing in guys who are coming from a culture and history of winning. I have no doubt that Eberle can return to form as a 30+ goal scorer; I'm just not sure it happens in Buffalo.

That said, top-line wingers don't become available all that often. He'd be right up there amongst the best wingers to have been moved in the past 5 years... Kessel, Neal, Gaborik, Vanek, Wheeler, Ladd... these guys don't become available very often, and if Buffalo could pick up Eberle without mortgaging too much for him, they should make a move for him. Eberle's stock is pretty much at an all-time low at the moment, and Buffalo could always adopt a "try and see" attitude. If it doesn't work out, they could always move him at the draft and recoup most of, if not all their losses. He's still a young guy in his prime on a reasonable contract (till 2019) for a 30+ goal scorer that I'm sure pretty much every team with cap room would be happy to have.

I think it was McCabe but im not sure either. Might be a little early to have Pysyk face top line competition though.
- Sabresfan-365

Based just on ice time totals for the other night, looks to me like Coli was with Bogo and McCabe was with Franson. Both Bogo and Coli were on the ice for Detroit's first 2 goals as well.

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But what assets do you give up to get him? That might be the deciding factor. With Ebs you have to give up good assets and pay him 6/year. Not disagreeing with what you've said, but it's reasonable.
- Zschalberg

I would be open to the player, but not at the expense of McCabe or Pysyk (and who knows if Edmonton would even "resort" to those 2 and not ask for Ristolainen).

I think the defense is too thin and not worth giving up either at this point, not for a guy who only puts up Ennis-like numbers for goals while playing with 1st overall picks like he has

Eberle's a solid top line winger and I think a change of scenery would do both him and Edmonton some good, but I don't think he's a good fit in Buffalo. I think there's something to be said for what someone mentioned above, about how Buffalo needs to be bringing in guys who are coming from a culture and history of winning. I have no doubt that Eberle can return to form as a 30+ goal scorer; I'm just not sure it happens in Buffalo.

That said, top-line wingers don't become available all that often. He'd be right up there amongst the best wingers to have been moved in the past 5 years... Kessel, Neal, Gaborik, Vanek, Wheeler, Ladd... these guys don't become available very often, and if Buffalo could pick up Eberle without mortgaging too much for him, they should make a move for him. Eberle's stock is pretty much at an all-time low at the moment, and Buffalo could always adopt a "try and see" attitude. If it doesn't work out, they could always move him at the draft and recoup most of, if not all their losses. He's still a young guy in his prime on a reasonable contract (till 2019) for a 30+ goal scorer that I'm sure pretty much every team with cap room would be happy to have.
- TheMaritimer

Wow does this post completely contradict itself.

The 1st paragraph says don't do it. The 2nd one says they should.

So, what you're saying is really you have no opinion on it. Got it!

Did Kessel even get that kind of return?
- stashu

I don't believe he did. But we're saying that we want to trade a, by some of our words, a 5th defenseman who has faced easy competition with 1 goal and only plays 16 minutes per night for a top 6 winger who has a high of 34 goals. It's their surplus, yes. But he's still a good player. Is he all world? No. But that's the price IMO. If Pysyk was a surefire top 4 maybe it wouldn't be that way but we can't undervalue to be okay with trading him and then expect him to fetch a great return as well.

Also, every trade involving Murray we end up over paying what we say we will. The 1st thrown into the Myers deal is what comes to mind.

Eberle's a solid top line winger and I think a change of scenery would do both him and Edmonton some good, but I don't think he's a good fit in Buffalo. I think there's something to be said for what someone mentioned above, about how Buffalo needs to be bringing in guys who are coming from a culture and history of winning. I have no doubt that Eberle can return to form as a 30+ goal scorer; I'm just not sure it happens in Buffalo.

That said, top-line wingers don't become available all that often. He'd be right up there amongst the best wingers to have been moved in the past 5 years... Kessel, Neal, Gaborik, Vanek, Wheeler, Ladd... these guys don't become available very often, and if Buffalo could pick up Eberle without mortgaging too much for him, they should make a move for him. Eberle's stock is pretty much at an all-time low at the moment, and Buffalo could always adopt a "try and see" attitude. If it doesn't work out, they could always move him at the draft and recoup most of, if not all their losses. He's still a young guy in his prime on a reasonable contract (till 2019) for a 30+ goal scorer that I'm sure pretty much every team with cap room would be happy to have.
- TheMaritimer

He hasn't scored 30+ since 11/12 and has missed more games than Kane this season. He's on the decline of his career age-wise and obviously injury-prone.

I don't believe he did. But we're saying that we want to trade a, by some of our words, a 5th defenseman who has faced easy competition with 1 goal and only plays 16 minutes per night for a top 6 winger who has a high of 34 goals. It's their surplus, yes. But he's still a good player. Is he all world? No. But that's the price IMO. If Pysyk was a surefire top 4 maybe it wouldn't be that way but we can't undervalue to be okay with trading him and then expect him to fetch a great return as well.

Also, every trade involving Murray we end up over paying what we say we will. The 1st thrown into the Myers deal is what comes to mind.
- Zschalberg

Pysyk played for the Oil Kings, he's a familiar face in EDM. There were rumors before that they liked him

He hasn't scored 30+ since 11/12 and has missed more games than Kane this season. He's on the decline of his career age-wise and obviously injury-prone.
- stashu

Agreed. I say stay the course. Build through the draft and get a Free Agent if one comes along that works for us. Trading should happen closer to when we're ready for a run.

I don't believe he did. But we're saying that we want to trade a, by some of our words, a 5th defenseman who has faced easy competition with 1 goal and only plays 16 minutes per night for a top 6 winger who has a high of 34 goals. It's their surplus, yes. But he's still a good player. Is he all world? No. But that's the price IMO. If Pysyk was a surefire top 4 maybe it wouldn't be that way but we can't undervalue to be okay with trading him and then expect him to fetch a great return as well.

Also, every trade involving Murray we end up over paying what we say we will. The 1st thrown into the Myers deal is what comes to mind.
- Zschalberg

Pysyk may be #5 right now, but Franson' only around another year (if he lasts that long). Not to mention he's only 30 seconds ATOI/g behind Franson

fire your dealer.
- mhp

He hasn't scored 30+ since 11/12 and has missed more games than Kane this season. He's on the decline of his career age-wise and obviously injury-prone.
- stashu

If the price was the same to get him as it was Kane, you walk away.

If it's someone like Pysyk, you listen IMO

Pysyk played for the Oil Kings, he's a familiar face in EDM. There were rumors before that they liked him
- sbroads24

Like him v trading an asset for him aren't the same (Unless you're Murray). I'm sure they'd like to have him, the price is just the hold up.