Considering butch goring came on WPG radio and said the islanders wanted trouba..... I'd say so.
- JETSWIN

Don't go by Butch Goring, nice guy. But he's kind of an idiot!

Hamonic/Eklund to Toronto for JVR n the rights to the Saturday 7pm EST time slot.

Source: National Enquirer
- Nighthawk

How bout Hamonic anywhere for an ISIS threat to u know who....

Don't go by Butch Goring, nice guy. But he's kind of an idiot!
- BobTrost

U know, the guy that's loaded with info......

This makes no sense. Why would cb move their best player then trade the parts for spare parts...just sayin
- Jordy8

You don't even know what the other parts going back from CGY could be so how could you call them "spare parts?"

You don't even know what the other parts going back from CGY could be so how could you call them "spare parts?"
- TandA4Flames

Damn, hitting these homies with logic, how dare you.....

I don't think Garth will make a trade until he can bring back a d-man as good or better than Hamonic. I am sure he will add more picks or players to do this.

Don't go by Butch Goring, nice guy. But he's kind of an idiot!
- BobTrost

Well...he's employed by the islanders...so there you go...

Well...he's employed by the islanders...so there you go...
- JETSWIN

Tv commentator.... whoopi di dooo

Why not??? All Snow needs to do is include a pick or prospect. Maybe Snow won't win a deal in the long run... but he could easily get a player of his value or greater in return. It's all about what he's willing to include with Hammonic.
- btbossman

Because no gm is being forced to trade for Hamm. Snow is thr only one who is in the unfortunate position of having to move a player that is requesting to move to a specific location for personal reasons. Trading players isnt as easy as saying ok you play here now. These guys have to move their families put their kids in new schools find a new house etc. You think the gm dealing wih Snow is going to do Snow a favor and just uproot one of his core players just because? No. The only way you uproot a guy in this situation is if you get more value in return.

Because no gm is being forced to trade for Hamm. Snow is thr only one who is in the unfortunate position of having to move a player that is requesting to move to a specific location for personal reasons. Trading players isnt as easy as saying ok you play here now. These guys have to move their families put their kids in new schools find a new house etc. You think the gm dealing wih Snow is going to do Snow a favor and just uproot one of his core players just because? No. The only way you uproot a guy in this situation is if you get more value in return.
- biglove89

You think these GM's care about players moving their families? They don't!!! They care about improving the team and for the most part their own jobs. I agree with many.. One for one deal happening is slim. But don't think a GM won't jump at the chance to improve their team. It's no different if it now or trade deadline. Snow is in no rush to make a deal until he feels it will improve the Isles.

You think these GM's care about players moving their families? They don't!!! They care about improving the team and for the most part their own jobs. I agree with many.. One for one deal happening is slim. But don't think a GM won't jump at the chance to improve their team. It's no different if it now or trade deadline. Snow is in no rush to make a deal until he feels it will improve the Isles.
- btbossman

Exactly. Why would swap players that have the same value if it isnt improving your team? It would make your team the same. We know snow wants to move hamm because of his personal request to be close to family. Why would you trade assets that wont improve you just to get Snow out of a pickle. You wouldnt be amy better and would have to spend time developing chemistry between the newly acquired and your team and time wasted on teaching our system to the new player. Also hammonic clearly has a personal issue that could down the road affect his play or him missing games. Why would you send equal value to put yourself in that position as a GM

If some other team can pry Hamonic out of Long Isla---Brooklyn, I would be thrilled to see Edmonton swap Eberle +2016 2nd, Yakupov and Reinhart, or our 2016 1st and 2nds for him.....I would rather not deal with those insufferable Islanders fans on here at all.
- Jeropotato

Brooklyn is on Long Island...

Exactly. Why would swap players that have the same value if it isnt improving your team? It would make your team the same. We know snow wants to move hamm because of his personal request to be close to family. Why would you trade assets that wont improve you just to get Snow out of a pickle. You wouldnt be amy better and would have to spend time developing chemistry between the newly acquired and your team and time wasted on teaching our system to the new player. Also hammonic clearly has a personal issue that could down the road affect his play or him missing games. Why would you send equal value to put yourself in that position as a GM
- biglove89

the problem is that snow is not in a pickle, hamonic has already said publicly that he loves being an islander and will not force Snow to trade him, now or ever. he just asked Snow to consider it because his mom is ill. travis lost his dad as a young boy and Snow is trying to accomodate travis. if Snow says travis I tried, but no one is offering anything we need , travis will not hold out. its just not who he is.... fans of teams that want him keep saying travis will hold out but he's already said he wont so theres no pressure on Snow, he's trying to help a player he respects, and who is extremely loyal

there is no evidence whatsoever that travis is forcing this as he said publicly there is no deadline

No you didn't mention trouba. You said how do you know there's not a bidding war? Well, I know the islanders would like a player back like trouba, because butch goring said so.

The reason we didn't know this started in the summer, but we know now is because the agent for hamonic isn't happy a trade hasn't materialized yet. So you tell an insider like Friedman to put it back on the front burner.
- JETSWIN

So now you know Hamonic's agent is the one who leaked it? Oh man what else you got? You know more than ANYONE else on the Hamonic situation and remarkably enough you didnt even know why he was leaving in the first place in the beginning of this thread. Where have you gotten all of this inside info in the last hour? Youre completely ignoring my point Trouba has nothing to do with anything we were discussing. Im assuming youre just avoiding the original point because you know youre wrong. This was boring five posts ago.

Well...he's employed by the islanders...so there you go...
- JETSWIN

Says the Jets fan

the problem is that snow is not in a pickle, hamonic has already said publicly that he loves being an islander and will not force Snow to trade him, now or ever. he just asked Snow to consider it because his mom is ill. travis lost his dad as a young boy and Snow is trying to accomodate travis. if Snow says travis I tried, but no one is offering anything we need , travis will not hold out. its just not who he is.... fans of teams that want him keep saying travis will hold out but he's already said he wont so theres no pressure on Snow, he's trying to help a player he respects, and who is extremely loyal

there is no evidence whatsoever that travis is forcing this as he said publicly there is no deadline
- randi

But in order for Snow to do the favour hes going to take a loss.. my point original point still stands. Why would say winnipeg or edmonton trade equal value for hammonic whether it was a personal issue or nothing affecting him what so ever. In order for snow to be the good guy and move hanmonic out of respect, hes going to have to take a loss. Or get multiple small pieces in place of hammonic. Theres no way he gets a d man of equal value back, because if you were the other gm why would you?

So now you know Hamonic's agent is the one who leaked it? Oh man what else you got? You know more than ANYONE else on the Hamonic situation and remarkably enough you didnt even know why he was leaving in the first place in the beginning of this thread. Where have you gotten all of this inside info in the last hour? Youre completely ignoring my point Trouba has nothing to do with anything we were discussing. Im assuming youre just avoiding the original point because you know youre wrong. This was boring five posts ago.
- Cptmjl

Is that right well then why don't you enlighten us on the biding war you said was possible ( there is none) the reason on how or why the story was leaked. So far you have yet to provide any reasonable scenario's and just insulted people. I don't see why he wants to be traded should even be entered into the dicussion. He said its personal and it should've left at that. But then again you can't reason or dicuss with stupid.

But in order for Snow to do the favour hes going to take a loss.. my point original point still stands. Why would say winnipeg or edmonton trade equal value for hammonic whether it was a personal issue or nothing affecting him what so ever. In order for snow to be the good guy and move hanmonic out of respect, hes going to have to take a loss. Or get multiple small pieces in place of hammonic. Theres no way he gets a d man of equal value back, because if you were the other gm why would you?
- biglove89

basically this is true, but who says Snow actually has to follow through in that circumstance. Travis has publicly stated he loved being an Islander and that he will not tie Garth Snows hands in this. He is a very bright principled young man who has sponsored 5 fatherless children to every Islander game in his career. His entire message to these children is to be a positive role model, to children who face the same tribulations he's overcome. he would never sit out or force things because it would make a lie out of everything he's told those kids.

Garth Snow out of great respect has tried to accommodate Travis' wishes, but Travis isn't an idiot, he knows that other GM's haven't offered fair value.....That's why Travis has said he didn't leak the story....its his way of saying, he's aware of what is going on. Garth Snow in his heart of hearts doesn't want to trade Hamonic, but out of respect for the young man he has tried.

In a way other GM's have played right into Snows hands, because as long as they keep lowballing him, Snow can honestly tell Travis I'm trying but nobody is offering fair value.....Travis knows his value, he also knows his team and his place on it....So he wont expect a trade until that changes.

fans of other teams don't have a clue who Travis is, what his moral compass tells him....its why he made the request in the first place. because he feels a great responsibility to his Mom and Siblings, but its that same moral compass that wont let him hold out or give less than his best....

fans of other teams are basically using wishful thinking, but Islander fans have known Travis for 7 years. they understand whats behind this. Honestly the longer this goes on, the less likely Travis will be traded at all. because he is too principled to be a pawn to other GM's

How bout Hamonic anywhere for an ISIS threat to u know who....
- Ur Not Me

How about EK for a real source

Huh? RFA's have a tone of value....you still control negotiating rights and compensation for offer sheets. Sorry, the difference in value between Ryan Johannson and Okposo is (frank)ing miles long, bubba.
- Jeropotato

RJ's value is hampered not just by his RFA but the fact that he still will need to be signed and obviously he feels his value is more than what one good season has proven. He almost held out on signing last year and signed a bridge deal that most certainly was his way of saying "I will not be a CBJ after the bridge" so Kokkikkllinnin(can I buy a vowel, Pat) knows that RJ is not a long term CBJ.

I think the point with those offers is to show how much Isle fans value Hamonic's skill set as well as his leadership and willingness to go to war for his teammates. No one is calling him Drew Doughty but he is an extremely effective defensive force.

Something that your team seems to still be lacking.
- Mordecai

Finally, an unbiased assessment of Hamonic's skill set.

He automatically makes a team's defense stronger just by putting on their jersey. He also has one of the MOST cap-friendly contracts in the league. He has been a strong presence on the Isles blue line and in the community as well. If this story hadn't leaked; no one would ever questions TH's dedication to Garth and the Isles. He is still going out there every game and playing his hardest. Anyone who says that he is doing that to impress Winnipeg and other clubs don't know the heart of this warrior. I will be sad once he is gone and so will the Islanders Fan Base. When he originally signed the contract he wanted to be sure he would retire as an Islander but knew then that he was in no position to ask for a no-trade clause. He is a class act and I wish him the best regardless of where and when he goes. An Islanders insider mentioned that Garth was willing and still is willing to let TH handle any personal matters and take the time off needed if there was a need. GS and TH are both top class individuals.

I know u are but what am I??
really?


and yeah you are. you've proven it.


those offers were delusional. period. if you don't think players of tyler seguin and phil kessels caliber are reasonable reference points in terms of comparable value to travis hamonic, youre delusional.


nurse + a first?
myers isn't a fair return
eberle + klefbom
another dude said johansen and a 1st


laughable
- Ihateallofu

Tyler Seguin did little more the embarrass the F*@# out of the Bruins organization and I doubt that would have changed. They simply felt that a change of scenery would be best for everybody. Dallas has Benn to thank for making TS into a better player, teammate, and person. He is very well respected by fellow players. As far as Kessel is concerned, he made Seguin look like a choir boy. Kessel was and always will be a cancer to any team he plays for. I am sure Sidney is wishing the Pens had a do-over. Million dollar talent with a ten cent brain and a penny's worth of attitude. The Pens are already talking about having to trade Malkin because they are too top heavy for the salary cap era. NOW Hamonic is a solid defenseman with a very cap-friendly contract and is a team player that gives a team everything he has every shift of every game. You do not see a lot of big name D-men being traded and that in itself is why I personally would not have traded him one for one for Kessel; I would have done the Seguin deal just because of TS's age and having Tavares be a similar influence as Benn.

basically this is true, but who says Snow actually has to follow through in that circumstance. Travis has publicly stated he loved being an Islander and that he will not tie Garth Snows hands in this. He is a very bright principled young man who has sponsored 5 fatherless children to every Islander game in his career. His entire message to these children is to be a positive role model, to children who face the same tribulations he's overcome. he would never sit out or force things because it would make a lie out of everything he's told those kids.

Garth Snow out of great respect has tried to accommodate Travis' wishes, but Travis isn't an idiot, he knows that other GM's haven't offered fair value.....That's why Travis has said he didn't leak the story....its his way of saying, he's aware of what is going on. Garth Snow in his heart of hearts doesn't want to trade Hamonic, but out of respect for the young man he has tried.




In a way other GM's have played right into Snows hands, because as long as they keep lowballing him, Snow can honestly tell Travis I'm trying but nobody is offering fair value.....Travis knows his value, he also knows his team and his place on it....So he wont expect a trade until that changes.

fans of other teams don't have a clue who Travis is, what his moral compass tells him....its why he made the request in the first place. because he feels a great responsibility to his Mom and Siblings, but its that same moral compass that wont let him hold out or give less than his best....

fans of other teams are basically using wishful thinking, but Islander fans have known Travis for 7 years. they understand whats behind this. Honestly the longer this goes on, the less likely Travis will be traded at all. because he is too principled to be a pawn to other GM's
- randi

WELL SAID TRAVIS HAMONIC = CLASS ACT! AND ONE OF THE MOST UNDERRATED DEFENSEMAN IN THE LEAGUE >> GARTH SNOW = CLASS ACT AND ONE OF THE MOST UNDERAPPRECIATED AND UNDERESTIMATED GM's IN THE NHL.

That statement you made is all assumption. What we do know is the trade demand, and it is a demand was made in the summer and nothing has been been made. If there was a bidding war we would have much more info than what we have today which is... Wait for it....*crickets*
- JETSWIN

You are confusing the word DEMAND for REQUEST! Hamonic NEVER demanded. Idiot!