You haven't heard that in weeks, the packages you hear about are more than fair, just don't meet the Isles needs.

Eberle and a 2016 2nd is certainly fair, even if the Islanders don't need a top line RW.
- Jeropotato

glass house

"eberle + klefbom"

"nurse + a first"



yeah, no

Theyre racists?
- Jeropotato

Perhaps

Fair for Oilers but not Isles, sorry bro, stop selling that it is....
- Ur Not Me

Oh yeah...Hamonic is worth waaaaaaay more....


See: Phil Kessel, Ryan Kessler, , Tyler Seguin, Jason Spezza deals.


Yet somehow Hamonic is worth more in trade than any of those guys, right?

Oh yeah...Hamonic is worth waaaaaaay more....


See: Phil Kessel, Ryan Kessler, , Tyler Seguin, Jason Spezza deals.


Yet somehow Hamonic is worth more in trade than any of those guys, right?
- Jeropotato

Not saying he is or isn't but last I checked dmen are more in demand especially one who's young (top 4) and on a friendly contract for years. Last I checked, top 4 dmen are more coveted, or maybe I'm missing something...??

Not saying he is or isn't but last I checked dmen are more in demand especially one who's young (top 4) and on a friendly contract for years. Last I checked, top 4 dmen are more coveted, or maybe I'm missing something...??
- Ur Not Me

Yes, you are. A point of reference.

Not saying he is or isn't but last I checked dmen are more in demand especially one who's young (top 4) and on a friendly contract for years. Last I checked, top 4 dmen are more coveted, or maybe I'm missing something...??
- Ur Not Me

None of those guys received a return as quality as Ebs and a early 2nd , IMO. So you are saying Hamonic is worth more.

None of those guys received a return as quality as Ebs and a early 2nd , IMO. So you are saying Hamonic is worth more.
- Jeropotato

I'm not saying anything, I just don't see a match of Hamonic for Eberle plus pick, its just that simple, 2nd I wouldn't even entertain that bc it doesn't help the isles currently unless another dman was acquired.

edit: No need for Schultz to be added bc isles will be adding significantly more $$$ to cap that is not needed yet.

glass house

"eberle + klefbom"

"nurse + a first"



yeah, no
- Ihateallofu

I think the point with those offers is to show how much Isle fans value Hamonic's skill set as well as his leadership and willingness to go to war for his teammates. No one is calling him Drew Doughty but he is an extremely effective defensive force.

Something that your team seems to still be lacking.

I think the point with those offers is to show how much Isle fans value Hamonic's skill set as well as his leadership and willingness to go to war for his teammates. No one is calling him Drew Doughty but he is an extremely effective defensive force.

Something that your team seems to still be lacking.
- Mordecai

If Eberle is so damn good, then trade him + 2nd pick to Bruins for Chara....


Watch the negativity spin so fast......

None of those guys received a return as quality as Ebs and a early 2nd , IMO. So you are saying Hamonic is worth more.
- Jeropotato

The Isles need a top 4 dman in return. Not Eberle or draft picks/futures. Maybe if EDM made it Eb's and their 1st with no lottery protection there could be a deal but I still don't think Isles would be interested.

I think the point with those offers is to show how much Isle fans value Hamonic's skill set as well as his leadership and willingness to go to war for his teammates. No one is calling him Drew Doughty but he is an extremely effective defensive force.

Something that your team seems to still be lacking.
- Mordecai

well then theyre delusional.
they can value him greatly all they like- but reality has to come into as well

the oilers not having a great defence doesn't make those offers any less ridiculous

well then theyre delusional.
they can value him greatly all they like- but reality has to come into as well

the oilers not having a great defence doesn't make those offers any less ridiculous
- Ihateallofu

No we are not, it's more like u are... sorry bud but its the truth...

well then theyre delusional.
they can value him greatly all they like- but reality has to come into as well

the oilers not having a great defence doesn't make those offers any less ridiculous
- Ihateallofu

EDM fans calling other people delusional

I'm not saying anything, I just don't see a match of Hamonic for Eberle plus pick, its just that simple, 2nd I wouldn't even entertain that bc it doesn't help the isles currently unless another dman was acquired.

edit: No need for Schultz to be added bc isles will be adding significantly more $$$ to cap that is not needed yet.
- Ur Not Me

jero stated this exactly even with the caveat that this match isn't there, but the value is. and u rebuffed it

You haven't heard that in weeks, the packages you hear about are more than fair, just don't meet the Isles needs.

Eberle and a 2016 2nd is certainly fair, even if the Islanders don't need a top line RW.
- Jeropotato



Fair for Oilers but not Isles, sorry bro, stop selling that it is

No we are not, it's more like u are... sorry bud but its the truth...
- Ur Not Me

I know u are but what am I??
really?


and yeah you are. you've proven it.


those offers were delusional. period. if you don't think players of tyler seguin and phil kessels caliber are reasonable reference points in terms of comparable value to travis hamonic, youre delusional.


nurse + a first?
myers isn't a fair return
eberle + klefbom
another dude said johansen and a 1st


laughable

I know u are but what am I??
really?


those offers were delusional. period.


nurse + a first?
myers isn't a fair return
eberle + klefbom
another dude said johansen and a 1st


laughable
- Ihateallofu

Do you think Nurse is currently more valuable than Hamonic?

I don't disagree. But you're not in a position to be able to demand more. That's really the simple truth.
- JETSWIN

How do you know? For all you know there could be a bidding war going on right now and his price could have been driven up. You know just as much as any of us do which is nothing. You're doing a lot of assuming.

I know u are but what am I??
really?


and yeah you are. you've proven it.


those offers were delusional. period. if you don't think players of tyler seguin and phil kessels caliber are reasonable reference points in terms of comparable value to travis hamonic, youre delusional.


nurse + a first?
myers isn't a fair return
eberle + klefbom
another dude said johansen and a 1st


laughable
- Ihateallofu

U could believe and say what you want, ur entitled. So on that, lets revisit this convo when Hamonic does get traded and see what the return is....

Do you think Nurse is currently more valuable than Hamonic?
- Mordecai

OMG they all do, they think he's the 2nd coming of Coffey .... U know a high 1st rd pick automatically excels you to stardom....

U could believe and say what you want, ur entitled. So on that, lets revisit this convo when Hamonic does get traded and see what the return is....
- Ur Not Me

I can live with this

How do you know? For all you know there could be a bidding war going on right now and his price could have been driven up. You know just as much as any of us do which is nothing. You're doing a lot of assuming.
- Cptmjl

more like inside info from Ek.....

U could believe and say what you want, ur entitled. So on that, lets revisit this convo when Hamonic does get traded and see what the return is....
- Ur Not Me

The return may not be what we want or it very well may be decent. Its one of those things that could go either way. The fact that Snow has held out as long as he has says a lot as far as im concerned. He'll wait till there's a deal he's happy with but like all situations like this they have a time limit not sure what kind Snow has set for himself?

Do you think Nurse is currently more valuable than Hamonic?
- Mordecai

to the oilers, for his potential, of course he is. without a doubt.
this isn't suggesting hamonic isn't a really good player. but instead nurses potential outstrips where hamonic is.

the kids already playing great ten games in.

but don't bother trying to sell what youre attempting to.
its not black and white - hamonic is worth more because hes currently the better player.
nurse is 20 and just starting his career. of course age and potential is applicable in terms of value.

The return may not be what we want or it very well may be decent. Its one of those things that could go either way. The fact that Snow has held out as long as he has says a lot as far as im concerned. He'll wait till there's a deal he's happy with but like all situations like this they have a time limit not sure what kind Snow has set for himself?
- Cptmjl

I'm guessing someone young and controllable for the team....

Send Johansen to Toronto for JVR and Kadri. Leafs finally get their big #1 centre
- sparky

Columbus would have to throw in Ryan Murray and Boone Jenner