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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 25 @ 12:37 PM ET
I mean, I knew this season was going to be bad, but not this bad. And you can't even blame Vinny or MacDonald!
- Streit2ThePoint


I mean it is $9.5M tied up in two players who never play...
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Nov 25 @ 12:41 PM ET
I mean it is $9.5M tied up in two players who never play...
- PhillySportsGuy


Irrelevant
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 25 @ 12:45 PM ET
I mean it is $9.5M tied up in two players who never play...
- PhillySportsGuy


To be fair Macdonald should be playing. There is no reason Manning should be on this roster
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 25 @ 12:46 PM ET
To be fair Macdonald should be playing. There is no reason Manning should be on this roster
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

i think mac donald will be back up next year once hexy clears some cap space
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 25 @ 12:51 PM ET
Sorry, I can't trade BSchenn to "buy time" for other guys. If that were the case I'd need that pick to be a 1st and that prospect to be pretty damn solid. I can't see it.
- hereticpride


The top 9 forward would be the component that would be for buying time. The prospect and draft pick would be the value component for the future.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 25 @ 12:53 PM ET
Because you aren't getting the same quality for 3 pieces when you're trading one.

You feel okay bringing in a 3rd liner lesser than Schenn, prospect lesser than Schenn and a 2nd or 3rd?

- hereticpride



How do you know what quality Hextall would accept? Do you think he's going to give him away? The top 9 forward is just likely a throw in for added depth, and is the lesser component in the deal.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Nov 25 @ 12:56 PM ET
If they're getting three assets for Schenn none are likely be be high-end. Personally if they don't get at least one Top 6 forward out of the trade I'd say it would be a mistake. Risk is ok, meaning taking a prospect for a proven forward like Schenn. But they need high upside. This team already has plenty of prospects that top out as 3rd/4th liners.
- TheGreat28

This is eloquently worded.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
Some more fun facts. Giroux is a monster on the dot.

http://faceoffs.net/team/PHI
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 25 @ 1:01 PM ET
Some more fun facts. Giroux is a monster on the dot.

http://faceoffs.net/team/PHI

- Feanor

it's only fun if we're winning games
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 25 @ 1:02 PM ET
We won the last one.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 25 @ 1:03 PM ET
This is eloquently worded.
- FlyersGrace

Can't schenn be a top 6 forward? we're trading something we need? or are we trading him for reasons outside the ice?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 25 @ 1:03 PM ET
We won the last one.
- Feanor

against a dumpster team in the NHL in overtime after blowing a 2-0 lead in the 3rd
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 25 @ 1:05 PM ET
against a dumpster team in the NHL in overtime after blowing a 2-0 lead in the 3rd
- 2Real


I thought you'd be happier now Coburn's gone.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 25 @ 1:13 PM ET
How do you know what quality Hextall would accept? Do you think he's going to give him away? The top 9 forward is just likely a throw in for added depth, and is the lesser component in the deal.
- MJL



Top 9 forward: Alex Burmistrov
Prospect: Jimmy Lodge
1st Round pick


So people would turn that down?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 25 @ 1:16 PM ET
Top 9 forward: Alex Burmistrov
Prospect: Jimmy Lodge
1st Round pick


So people would turn that down?

- J35Bacher


No. I'd gladly do that, even though I know nothing about Lodge.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 25 @ 1:17 PM ET
I thought you'd be happier now Coburn's gone.
- Feanor

my mood is related to the eagles and flyers winning
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 25 @ 1:18 PM ET
How do you know what quality Hextall would accept? Do you think he's going to give him away? The top 9 forward is just likely a throw in for added depth, and is the lesser component in the deal.
- MJL

I know approximately what Schenn's value is and its not a top 9 forward, 1st, and high end prsopect I can tell you that. Schenn is not 2010 Mike Richards.

If Hexy wants three pieces teams are going to offer three pieces of middling value. I'd rather have one player or one pick tbh.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Nov 25 @ 1:22 PM ET
Why do people act like Medvedev is better than Gudas or Schultz or Manning? I just don't get it.



Now I remember. Russian National Team top 4.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 25 @ 1:22 PM ET
Top 9 forward: Alex Burmistrov
Prospect: Jimmy Lodge
1st Round pick


So people would turn that down?

- J35Bacher

I don't think you're getting a 1st for BSchenn if you're getting two other pieces. That's my whole issue with this thing.

I'd much rather a lotto protected 1st and Barbashev or Colin White straight up.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 25 @ 1:24 PM ET
I don't think you're getting a 1st for BSchenn if you're getting two other pieces. That's my whole issue with this thing.

I'd much rather a lotto protected 1st and Barbashev or Colin White straight up.

- hereticpride


Just to be clear, we're not talking Colin White, the former NJ Devil, right?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 25 @ 1:24 PM ET
I don't think you're getting a 1st for BSchenn if you're getting two other pieces. That's my whole issue with this thing.

I'd much rather a lotto protected 1st and Barbashev or Colin White straight up.

- hereticpride


I think barbashev or white straight up is fair
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 25 @ 1:24 PM ET
i think mac donald will be back up next year once hexy clears some cap space
- 2Real


Thank god
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 25 @ 1:27 PM ET
How about that Jordie Benn to Jamie Benn pass for a SHG against Ottawa last night? That goal was so sexy. Double Bennatration
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 25 @ 1:28 PM ET
I think barbashev or white straight up is fair
- Just5


I don't think Barbashev is all that great, having never seen him play a game.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 25 @ 1:29 PM ET
Top 9 forward: Alex Burmistrov
Prospect: Jimmy Lodge
1st Round pick


So people would turn that down?

- J35Bacher


I don't feel like back reading. Is this a Schenn trade proposal?
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