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cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 23 @ 12:26 PM ET
Edmonton should just cut their losses with McDavid now then. Broken hand in Jr last year and now a broken clavicle.

He's injury prone.

- HonkFortheGoose

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:26 PM ET
It would prolly not be so concerning if it wasn't an impact type player. Impact players are more prone to get injured than say Weber ? Who is one we hoped would have that luck at times.
- cabin



Obligatory.

stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 23 @ 12:27 PM ET
Players who get injured frequently get criticized all the time.

When the Bills were rumored to get Sam Bradford, I remember most people saying they wouldn't want him because he's injury prone. Not that they think he might have another "freak accident"

Some athletes get hurt more than others. It's not all random.

Again, not saying Lehner's career is doomed, but I think it's a legitimate concern

- sbroads24


I get the "concern" over Kane, but the Lehner stuff has been laughable and has been said by a few since he was acquired.

I'm never gonna criticize a player for getting hurt. It sucks, but it's a rough sport and everyones' body is different as to what they can take, not to mention every situation where and injury happens is different. A check by Phaneuf on 11/14/12 isn't the same as one he may have given last week, for instance.

The only concern is trading for those types of players, and I know that's part of what you've mentioned as your concern, but Connolly and Miller were never in that situation (or Peca, Hasek, etc), poop just happens. Connolly was a special case because for how long was it thought that he just kept having the same issue for one reason yet it was all related to something else.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 23 @ 12:29 PM ET
Bills and Sabres pull out the wins tonight
- beargk


Have the Bills surpassed their futility against the Dolphins back in the day with their rivalry with the Patriots now?

A guy at work just asked me "Are your Bills gonna be able to pull it out tonight?"

My answer: Hell no! They may be in the lead after 1 or perhaps even at half time, but they'll end up getting blown out before the game is done.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 23 @ 12:29 PM ET
Edmonton should just cut their losses with McDavid now then. Broken hand in Jr last year and now a broken clavicle.

He's injury prone.

- HonkFortheGoose

Funny thing is, a lot of Edmonton fans are concerned with his health long term. He isn't a big guy

But yes, they should cut him. Because I said we should cut Lehner
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 23 @ 12:34 PM ET
Funny thing is, a lot of Edmonton fans are concerned with his health long term. He isn't a big guy

But yes, they should cut him. Because I said we should cut Lehner

- sbroads24


McDavid isn't a big guy? He's 6'1" and weighs 190 lbs. That's not big enough? Crosby isn't even 6" but I never hear anyone say he's not very big.

Good lord....
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
McDavid isn't a big guy? He's 6'1" and weighs 190 lbs. That's not big enough? Crosby isn't even 6" but I never hear anyone say he's not very big.

Good lord....

- HonkFortheGoose

6'1 and under 200 lbs isn't big.

The average NHL'er is 6'1 204 pounds.


Yes....good lord
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
Then you need to work on your listening skills. Any injury is unlucky really.

We should be concerned about Ullmark then too, being that he's had to have double hip surgery already and is only 22. Yet nobody is "concerned" about his injury history like they are Lehner's.

- HonkFortheGoose

i actually am concerned about Ullmark.. that is the same thing that railroaded Double Penetrations career
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Nov 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
6'1 and under 200 lbs isn't big.

The average NHL'er is 6'1 204 pounds.


Yes....good lord

- sbroads24

He's a teenager still, worth taking into account.

And let's try and be nice to each other (not directed only at you) - m'kay?
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:38 PM ET
Bills and Sabres pull out the wins tonight
- beargk

i bet the city of buffalo goes 0-2 tonight..
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
i bet the city of buffalo goes 0-2 tonight..
- IndianaSabresFan


Im just hoping either team covers the spread.

(I believe in moral victories.)
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:40 PM ET
He's a teenager still, worth taking into account.

And let's try and be nice to each other (not directed only at you) - m'kay?

- nfph

i gained weight when i was in my 20s, went from about 170 to 210.. there is hope..


but that was more due to being at college eating crap food and drinking alot while doing nothing..
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 23 @ 12:40 PM ET
i actually am concerned about Ullmark.. that is the same thing that railroaded Double Penetrations career
- IndianaSabresFan

You can be concerned about Ullmark, because Ullmark wasn't brought in by Tim Murray, so there isn't a need to defend him at all costs
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:41 PM ET
You can be concerned about Ullmark, because Ullmark wasn't brought in by Tim Murray, so there isn't a need to defend him at all costs
- sbroads24

hopefully we don't go sign ullmark to a 10 year 35 mil contract.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 23 @ 12:41 PM ET
He's a teenager still, worth taking into account.

And let's try and be nice to each other (not directed only at you) - m'kay?

- nfph

I'm sure he will bulk up. But you can ask Edmonton fans, they're biggest concern about McDavid was staying healthy playing against men.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:42 PM ET
You can be concerned about Ullmark, because Ullmark wasn't brought in by Tim Murray, so there isn't a need to defend him at all costs
- sbroads24


Hot take.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 23 @ 12:43 PM ET
He's a teenager still, worth taking into account.

And let's try and be nice to each other (not directed only at you) - m'kay?

- nfph


Exactly. He's going to continue to put on some muscle over the next few years. I'm pretty sure Eichel was under 200 until he put 10 lbs of muscle on over the summer.

(which BTW is ridiculous)
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
I'm sure he will bulk up. But you can ask Edmonton fans, they're biggest concern about McDavid was staying healthy playing against men.
- sbroads24


That's a concern for any 18 year old though. It was the same thing we said about Reinhart last year.

McDavid's injury was crappy. That's for sure. I was enjoying watching him play. But you can't expect any player (over 200lbs or not) to go crashing into the boards the way he did as fast as he did with about 400 lbs of other players on him and expect him to come away unscathed.

Injuries suck. But they happen. Even if they made the sport non contact there would still be injuries.

Hell, Hossa pulled his groin when he was playing for Atlanta during a morning skate because the ice conditions were less than favorable.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Nov 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
hell this is girgens 3rd stint on the shelf as well
- homiedclown


Waste of a first round pick. Hes only a couple years younger than Kane but been hurt 3 times, hasnt even sniffed 30 goals, and has almost zero points this year. Bustensons!

I'm really joking, but saying it out loud makes you think....Grigo has how many points in the last 7 games?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 23 @ 12:51 PM ET
That's a concern for any 18 year old though. It was the same thing we said about Reinhart last year.

McDavid's injury was crappy. That's for sure. I was enjoying watching him play. But you can't expect any player (over 200lbs or not) to go crashing into the boards the way he did as fast as he did with about 400 lbs of other players on him and expect him to come away unscathed.

Injuries suck. But they happen. Even if they made the sport non contact there would still be injuries.

Hell, Hossa pulled his groin when he was playing for Atlanta during a morning skate because the ice conditions were less than favorable.

- HonkFortheGoose

I agree a lot of them are random.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Nov 23 @ 12:56 PM ET
I agree a lot of them are random.
- sbroads24


This is where having a good farm system helps, because at some point in the season you'll need to have guys filling in for those injured. This is where we're currently a bit thin, IMO. But since this year was about improving and not being a Cup contender, it's not a huge deal. It's worrisome, but not exactly catastrophic.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:58 PM ET
Waste of a first round pick. Hes only a couple years younger than Kane but been hurt 3 times, hasnt even sniffed 30 goals, and has almost zero points this year. Bustensons!

I'm really joking, but saying it out loud makes you think....Grigo has how many points in the last 7 games?

- LandlordTom


Six - but he got three all in one night.

But he wasn't selected by Terry Murray so we don't have to defend him to the bitter end.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 12:59 PM ET
This is where having a good farm system helps, because at some point in the season you'll need to have guys filling in for those injured. This is where we're currently a bit thin, IMO. But since this year was about improving and not being a Cup contender, it's not a huge deal. It's worrisome, but not exactly catastrophic.
- HonkFortheGoose

our farm system is crap now


a few fringe guys in the ahl
maybe 2 nhl d men in the next 3 years

only thing deep is the goalies, but they are years away
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 23 @ 1:00 PM ET
our farm system is crap now


a few fringe guys in the ahl
maybe 2 nhl d men in the next 3 years

only thing deep is the goalies, but they are years away

- homiedclown

Armia is getting a call up.
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Nov 23 @ 1:04 PM ET
Armia is getting a call up.
- sbroads24


Sabres won that deal! Armia
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