Good luck HAckStol getting another NHL job,flyers setting new all time worst franchise records

- Landsbergfan

our roster sucks lets see what happens when he gets better players

Eagles are set up for a big turkey day
- DaveofYork

They need a big sized coach again

Good luck HAckStol getting another NHL job,flyers setting new all time worst franchise records

- Landsbergfan

our roster sucks lets see what happens when he gets better players
- 2Real

Roster is good enough to be a bubble team said most "experts" before the season,now they flying down to 30th spot worth 70 mill $

Roster is good enough to be a bubble team said most "experts" before the season,now they flying down to 30th spot worth 70 mill $
- Landsbergfan

we had a number of players that were overachieving and now they've come back to earth we can solve a lot of problems by getting rid of read and raffl with better players and getting skilled players around simmonds. couturier and simmonds should never be on a line together

He can still do that and not be considered the 2nd scoring line.

Look, the goals for average speaks for itself. I'm not solely pinning that on Coots but they do need to fully re-assess the lines top to bottom. I see Coots working best in a defensive role, regardless of how many minutes you give him. I'd like to see a 2C brought in that can really bring the offense and allow Coots to dominate in a defense first role. I think that move is paramount to this team moving forward.
- hereticpride

Honestly whether you call his line the second or third, his ice time will remain the same. I do get what you are saying tho.

Honestly whether you call his line the second or third, his ice time will remain the same. I do get what you are saying tho.
- nastyflyergirl

You and MJL are right about ice time. And I'm actually ok with some offensive zone starts for Couts too. The deal is not really what you do with Couts...it's about the third center piece of the puzzle.

What I've said all along is that they need a third center that is much more of a playmaker. I'd like a 2nd fiddle like Briere to G's first chair. Someone who will take the pressure off of the 1st line, because they are just squeezing their stick.

The issue isn't even Couturier as much as it is that Couturier and Laughton combined are just not going to provide enough offense.

They need a big sized coach again

- Landsbergfan

I always liked Andy Reid. Not his public persona, per se. But I think he was the greatest coach in Eagles history, by far. It was definitely time for him to move on. But now maybe the fan base will appreciate his tenure here more than they did while he was here.

There's a guy I'm Facebook friends with that is a huge Eagles fan and is always ripping the Flyers.

Perhaps I should point out a rookie QB has put up 5TDs on them with a full quarter to go.

You and MJL are right about ice time. And I'm actually ok with some offensive zone starts for Couts too. The deal is not really what you do with Couts...it's about the third center piece of the puzzle.

What I've said all along is that they need a third center that is much more of a playmaker. I'd like a 2nd fiddle like Briere to G's first chair. Someone who will take the pressure off of the 1st line, because they are just squeezing their stick.

The issue isn't even Couturier as much as it is that Couturier and Laughton combined are just not going to provide enough offense.
- TheGreat28

Couturier hasn't developed enough on the offensive side but he is a very valuable player. I agree about finding the briere to G. Its so hard to score in the NHL these days. Look at Pitts. they have Malkin and Sid and they haven't even lit it up. When the opposition can key on G's line, you really need the secondary scoring and they just aren't getting it. Read, Raffl, Simmonds, etc and even the defense isn't pitching in.

I knew this team was a borderline playoff team at best and would need A LOT to go right to make the playoffs but I honestly didn't expect to see such an inept offense. I didn't expect a juggernaut on offense but I also didn't expect this. I thought the main issues would be from the defense. I think the effort is there, minus an occasional game like Colorado, but they are slow and boring. I personally wouldn't send Leier down because he at least provides some speed. I wouldn't mind seeing Straka up if Laughton is out just to try to add something different. unfortunately I just think this is what we are going to get until they can move on from some of the contracts and incorporate some of the young players. I sure as hell hope they develop into what their ceiling is expected to be.

There's a guy I'm Facebook friends with that is a huge Eagles fan and is always ripping the Flyers.

Perhaps I should point out a rookie QB has put up 5TDs on them with a full quarter to go.
- hereticpride

Yeah but you'll run the risk that he'll point out that 35 is more points than the Flyers have all year in Goals.

I always liked Andy Reid. Not his public persona, per se. But I think he was the greatest coach in Eagles history, by far. It was definitely time for him to move on. But now maybe the fan base will appreciate his tenure here more than they did while he was here.
- TheGreat28

yea chip has no idea what the (frank) he's doing he's had enough years now and they're getting worse and worse

Yeah but you'll run the risk that he'll point out that 35 is more points than the Flyers have all year in Goals.
- TheGreat28

There's a guy I'm Facebook friends with that is a huge Eagles fan and is always ripping the Flyers.

Perhaps I should point out a rookie QB has put up 5TDs on them with a full quarter to go.
- hereticpride

about to be 6

I always liked Andy Reid. Not his public persona, per se. But I think he was the greatest coach in Eagles history, by far. It was definitely time for him to move on. But now maybe the fan base will appreciate his tenure here more than they did while he was here.
- TheGreat28

Up until the end, Reid always had te Eagles in the mix. I was in Chip's corner when he came in but I am done. I hate Chip the GM and am not too thrilled with Chip the coach either. They were better off keeping Foles not that Foles is anything special but at least they would have their second round pick. they have so many freaking holes. to not address the offensive line for several seasons is a disgrace.

when you are 4-4 heading into HOME games against Miami and Tampa and come out at 4-6, you are a BAD team.

Couturier hasn't developed enough on the offensive side but he is a very valuable player. I agree about finding the briere to G. Its so hard to score in the NHL these days. Look at Pitts. they have Malkin and Sid and they haven't even lit it up. When the opposition can key on G's line, you really need the secondary scoring and they just aren't getting it. Read, Raffl, Simmonds, etc and even the defense isn't pitching in.

I knew this team was a borderline playoff team at best and would need A LOT to go right to make the playoffs but I honestly didn't expect to see such an inept offense. I didn't expect a juggernaut on offense but I also didn't expect this. I thought the main issues would be from the defense. I think the effort is there, minus an occasional game like Colorado, but they are slow and boring. I personally wouldn't send Leier down because he at least provides some speed. I wouldn't mind seeing Straka up if Laughton is out just to try to add something different. unfortunately I just think this is what we are going to get until they can move on from some of the contracts and incorporate some of the young players. I sure as hell hope they develop into what their ceiling is expected to be.
- nastyflyergirl

Pretty much agree with everything you said, especially the bold. I'm not one of the guys that is ripping Couturier (and you know who you are rinaldo lol). I'm actually ok with his contract too.

My only fear is that Hextall is still thinking that Couturier and Laughton can be 2 and 3. I'm actually of a different mindset then everyone here. I think this epic drought is a very very good thing for the long run. Hopefully it forces Hextall to make the necessary changes that will help them a couple of years down the road. With Couturier and Laughton they were headed for mediocrity offensively, IMO.

Pretty much agree with everything you said, especially the bold. I'm not one of the guys that is ripping Couturier (and you know who you are rinaldo lol). I'm actually ok with his contract too.

My only fear is that Hextall is still thinking that Couturier and Laughton can be 2 and 3. I'm actually of a different mindset then everyone here. I think this epic drought is a very very good thing for the long run. Hopefully it forces Hextall to make the necessary changes that will help them a couple of years down the road. With Couturier and Laughton they were headed for mediocrity offensively, IMO.
- TheGreat28

I agree with this. I'd they get another offensive Center they can move Laughton to LW and improve the depth there too. Addressing the 2/3 C roles could greatly affect this team in a positive manner.

Up until the end, Reid always had te Eagles in the mix. I was in Chip's corner when he came in but I am done. I hate Chip the GM and am not too thrilled with Chip the coach either. They were better off keeping Foles not that Foles is anything special but at least they would have their second round pick. they have so many freaking holes. to not address the offensive line for several seasons is a disgrace.

when you are 4-4 heading into HOME games against Miami and Tampa and come out at 4-6, you are a BAD team.
- nastyflyergirl

Totally agree about Chip the GM. The amount of change he introduced in the offseason was an epic failure.

Howie has gotta be loving life right now. Makes you wonder who really picked Marcus Smith.

I agree with this. I'd they get another offensive Center they can move Laughton to LW and improve the depth there too. Addressing the 2/3 C roles could greatly affect this team in a positive manner.
- hereticpride

Or use him as a trade piece. I'm getting tired of taking natural centers and playing them out of position. I think he could be a very good defensive center. Package him and Simmonds (or Schenn) and maybe even a 2nd round pick and try to get a very good young center.

That was my proposal for Draisaitl. It actually would have been good for Edmonton I think. Then again, not really a fair deal with the way Simmonds and Laughton have been playing.

Totally agree about Chip the GM. The amount of change he introduced in the offseason was an epic failure.

Howie has gotta be loving life right now. Makes you wonder who really picked Marcus Smith.
- TheGreat28

what a horrible pick. you can't waste picks like that. imagine what NE does to them.

Up until the end, Reid always had te Eagles in the mix. I was in Chip's corner when he came in but I am done. I hate Chip the GM and am not too thrilled with Chip the coach either. They were better off keeping Foles not that Foles is anything special but at least they would have their second round pick. they have so many freaking holes. to not address the offensive line for several seasons is a disgrace.

when you are 4-4 heading into HOME games against Miami and Tampa and come out at 4-6, you are a BAD team.
- nastyflyergirl

pretty much my thoughts exactly

what a horrible pick. you can't waste picks like that. imagine what NE does to them.
- nastyflyergirl

Ha! At this point I'm worried about what Detroit is going to do to them

Or use him as a trade piece. I'm getting tired of taking natural centers and playing them out of position. I think he could be a very good defensive center. Package him and Simmonds (or Schenn) and maybe even a 2nd round pick and try to get a very good young center.

That was my proposal for Draisaitl. It actually would have been good for Edmonton I think. Then again, not really a fair deal with the way Simmonds and Laughton have been playing.
- TheGreat28

If Draisaitl keeps it up you have to imagine RNH will be available. We can't offer them much D help but maybe Simmonds and the 1st they hopefully acquire from Streit gets that conversation going.

If Draisaitl keeps it up you have to imagine RNH will be available. We can't offer them much D help but maybe Simmonds and the 1st they hopefully acquire from Streit gets that conversation going.
- hereticpride

I really do think both Buffalo and Edmonton could afford to get a little more gritty. Edmonton more so than Buffalo. They almost have too many skilled players.

The Buffalo fans laughed at a Simmonds/Laughton/Streit proposal for Reinhart was a potential deal that could help both teams. Ok, so maybe they don't want Streit and would take a pick instead.

But really the Flyers need more skill, and a couple of teams could use their grit. I think there could be a deal in there somewhere.

Ha! At this point I'm worried about what Detroit is going to do to them
- TheGreat28

well look who detriot just beat