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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 20 @ 3:36 PM ET
Dude, we all know that.
- Scoob


Well, clearly we haven't embraced it enough, so we need to be told again
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 20 @ 3:37 PM ET
well technically they can not score in regulation and OT, but get one in the shootout, which isn't really scoring and win
- nastyflyergirl


it's true. i've seen pictures.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 20 @ 3:37 PM ET
frank caliendo's madden impressions are hilarious:

"here's a guy...if he runs, he goes faster!"

there are so many. kills me every time.

- hammarby31


Love that guy

His Gruden one is good too.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 20 @ 3:39 PM ET
call up goulbourne.
- rinaldo


Ghoul and Ghost baby
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Nov 20 @ 3:39 PM ET
What would you rather him say? "Hey guys, thanks for buying tickets and coming to see us play, sorry we suck, we have a plan for a few years down the road, hope you're still a fan." He has to portray a public image and this team, the way they played to start the season, could be a playoff team. I don't know where that play went but we won some good games and almost beat TB in OT. Even if a team is tanking, you have to expect hard work and effort even if the line up is all AHL players. Their level of play as of lately has been unacceptable.
- Tomfan365


Of course he can't say those things
This isn't the lier lier movie.
I guess we'll all be happy to get another lottery pick.
I don't know, I hate watching a struggling team, and knowing nothing will be done about it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 20 @ 3:39 PM ET
Who gets traded and who can they call up? I am saying currently this is the situation they find themselves in. Today, the day we are discussing what will need to be done next year, this is the situation they are in.

I know the situation the team is in and can look towards the future, I am not just posting about it for my health. It is the same reason why I wanted to cry when I found out Schultz got signed for 2 seasons. This coming offseason is the one that matters for the Flyers and is the offseason where the crunch hurts them. Sure I would love to have guys traded for next year, but we have to see it happen. As I have maintained, if it comes down to it, VLC may need to be bought out and it really doesnt hurt them all that much if he does.

I have thought of it which is why I asked you about it. You are talking about it like Vinny can fit in under the cap next year no problem, but it sounds like you are assuming someone is traded. I am all for having an actual conversation about this, but we need to agree that the team will have serious trouble fitting under the cap without cutting/trading someone from the roster. Everyone thinks Hextall will trade Streit at the deadline, but it is up to him to see if that's where he thinks he will have the most value. Maybe a team doesn't want a 39 year old on the books for 5.25 next season (or cant fit him like the NYR)

- YuenglingJagr



Ask yourself one simple question. Based on how this team has played and it's projections, why on earth would Hextall come back with that roster for next season?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 20 @ 3:39 PM ET

- YuenglingJagr




Probably a lot of #fancystats used in the analysis.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Nov 20 @ 3:41 PM ET
I know one thing for sure
Flyers stink

- Williamc5468







Big, if true.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 20 @ 3:41 PM ET
Of course he can't say those things
This isn't the lier lier movie.
I guess we'll all be happy to get another lottery pick.
I don't know, I hate watching a struggling team, and knowing nothing will be done about it.

- puckhead17


Well hopefully they can at least sell off some hot garbage the TDL.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Nov 20 @ 3:41 PM ET
Ask yourself one simple question. Based on how this team has played and it's projections, why on earth would Hextall come back with that roster for next season?
- MJL

part of the plan, patience while the young core develops.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Nov 20 @ 3:42 PM ET
Unfortunately that is how the league is set up: it rewards failure. The Flyers are going to stink again next year too since they will still have cap problems. They might add some rookies but they take time to develop at the NHL level. So get use to the stink.

Now the question I pose to you is would you rather be bottom 3 in the league bad or in the that mediocre middle between 7-12 if they aren't going to make the playoffs either way?

- psuhockey


Didn't they make the cup finals in the 8th seed?
No sorry, I'll drink the cool aid & wish for a lottery pick
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 20 @ 3:47 PM ET
It's pretty easy to speculate that Vinny will fit under the cap if you trade players until he fits
- YuenglingJagr


You call it that, I call it a sensible and reasonable turning over of a roster that makes sense based on the state of the team.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Nov 20 @ 3:47 PM ET
bill in your opinion will ghost be a good dnhl dman or will he have an andy delmore type of career?
- rinaldo


I think he'll be better than Delly.
Williamc5468
Joined: 11.20.2015

Nov 20 @ 3:48 PM ET
Once Umberger comes back everything will be great again.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 20 @ 3:48 PM ET
Ask yourself one simple question. Based on how this team has played and it's projections, why on earth would Hextall come back with that roster for next season?
- MJL


I am not suggesting that he will or should. Hence the vinny buyout.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 20 @ 3:51 PM ET
I am not suggesting that he will or should. Hence the vinny buyout.
- YuenglingJagr



Thats one way to go but it would be a mistake in my opinion.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 20 @ 3:55 PM ET
I think he'll be better than Delly.
- bmeltzer



How'd Medvedev look at practice today?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 20 @ 3:55 PM ET
I think he'll be better than Delly.
- bmeltzer

Mos def
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 20 @ 3:55 PM ET
Thats one way to go bit it would be a mistake in my opinion.
- MJL


Aaaaaand we are back to square one. Great work. Still waiting to see how you fit him in...but its clear you are just assuming trades happen. The only trade that would help us get under the cap next year that has been rumored by reputable sources is Brayden Schenn and the obvious Vinny trade
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 20 @ 3:55 PM ET
How'd Medvedev look at practice today?
- Feanor

Dizzy
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Nov 20 @ 3:56 PM ET
I think he'll be better than Delly.
- bmeltzer


I don't remember Delmore having this much of an impact.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 20 @ 3:56 PM ET
How'd Medvedev look at practice today?
- Feanor


He doesnt understand the question
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 20 @ 3:56 PM ET
If you actually watch the flyers game you would've heard them talk about it pre game tues before kings game. But I guess being a super fan you missed it. Maybe you saw your boy giroux lose an important face off with a minute left that game that lead to the tying goal.
- Williamc5468


Even the best faceoff guy in the league can't win them all.

You're really making a great first impression.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 20 @ 4:02 PM ET
Of course he can't say those things
This isn't the lier lier movie.
I guess we'll all be happy to get another lottery pick.
I don't know, I hate watching a struggling team, and knowing nothing will be done about it.

- puckhead17


The thing is, with the cap, it's more and more difficult to fix the issues. There $8.6mm in cap space tied up in Lecavalier & MacDonald. They can't move either of those guys.

I think this summer we will see Lecavalier or Umberger gone, maybe both. Next season we will see some of the kids, and Hextall will probably be more in a position to make a move.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 20 @ 4:03 PM ET
Even the best faceoff guy in the league can't win them all.

You're really making a great first impression.

- Feanor


2nd best to Toews for guys who take them regularly. Maybe if he won that one against the Kings though
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