Can't quote today, but I think these are d-men that would interest the Islanders today, from Western Canadian teams only:

Oilers
Darnell Nurse
Oscar Klefbom (+)

Flames
Brodie/Gio/Hamilton - all of whom I think are better options for the Flames right now

Jets
Byfuglien - if they can get him to re-sign
Tyler Myers (+)
Jacob Trouba

Canucks
Tanev/Sbisa/Hutton (+)

That said, you look at the Islanders D-corps, they don't need an active replacement for Hamonic today, they may be able to afford a prospect or even a forward in return. Opening that door would change things in a big way IMO if they are willing to take a lesser player (say a Russell type d-man) to tide them over for now plus a future Kylington/Anderson/Nakladal.

I honestly do not see the Flames picking him up (though if you had asked me 6 months ago if we would have acquired Hamilton, I would have laughed in your face while eating your hat).

Good fit on almost any team, but I don't know that he is your #1 anywhere (yet)
- rmull905

The Islanders absolutely do need an immediate replacement for him. It's already been noted in Friedman's initial article reporting this that, per his sources, Snow is looking for a return of a young, comparable defenseman and not prospects or picks.

Lol wouldnt put Sbisa or Hutton in there.

The Islanders absolutely do need an immediate replacement for him. It's already been noted in Friedman's initial article reporting this that, per his sources, Snow is looking for a return of a young, comparable defenseman and not prospects or picks.
- eichiefs9

Wasn't Snow looking for D before this came out? If so, and given that you're not likely to get a comparable to Hamonic (because, really, why make a lateral move?) would you guys have interest in quantity/depth in a return. Something like Wideman (with us retaining the difference in salary) and Russell? Basically 2 #3-5 Dmen.

Wasn't Snow looking for D before this came out? If so, and given that you're not likely to get a comparable to Hamonic (because, really, why make a lateral move?) would you guys have interest in quantity/depth in a return. Something like Wideman (with us retaining the difference in salary) and Russell? Basically 2 #3-5 Dmen.
- TandA4Flames

Let's not be like the Oilers board. No way we get ride of Wideman w/ Russell for Hamonic. Salary + level of players not going to fly.

That being said:

Kylington+Russell or Wideman for Hamonic and some garbage salary...

Closer.

Wasn't Snow looking for D before this came out? If so, and given that you're not likely to get a comparable to Hamonic (because, really, why make a lateral move?) would you guys have interest in quantity/depth in a return. Something like Wideman (with us retaining the difference in salary) and Russell? Basically 2 #3-5 Dmen.
- TandA4Flames

Snow was not looking for a defenseman. At least, there were no reports of it anywhere.

There are more factors than just skill level that come into account though. Hamonic is a RHD, which are always in higher demand than lefties. Hamonic is signed for another 4 seasons at an insanely reasonable $3.75M AAV. Teams that are either up against the cap or have big pending UFA contracts to deal with in the coming few seasons will find Hamonic's level of play and contract status as extremely favorable.

It's beyond rare that a RHD with his type of game, signed long term to a cheap contract ever hits the market. A lot of people think the Isles are going to get fleeced, but I'm very confident that they'll get a real nice return back for Travis.

edit: sorry, his contract is closer to $3.85M AAV. Still insanely reasonable.

I will probably get lynched for this but:

What about Gio for Harmonic + Dal Colle? I have not really followed Dal Colle's progression but I know he was considered quite a good pick when he was drafted.

Gio goes to an instant contender and makes them better, I think NY has the cap space to make it happen. Gio gives 3-4 good years while Tavares is in his prime.

Calgary gets a younger D and a Winger with size both of which better align with their timeline.

Not saying I want to trade Gio, but thinking if a trade for Harmonic happens it would look more like this rather than something centered around Wideman or Russell.

I actually think we are one of the best trade partners for this deal.

We have more defense then we know what to do with and that's great Snow wants something of equal value, but there is clearly a reason the trade hasn't happened 2 months ago! Nobody is going to give him what he wants when they all clearly know his hand is being forced.

Russel and Backlund to me would gets this deal done. Good contracts being dealt from both ends.

I will probably get lynched for this but:

What about Gio for Harmonic + Dal Colle? I have not really followed Dal Colle's progression but I know he was considered quite a good pick when he was drafted.

Gio goes to an instant contender and makes them better, I think NY has the cap space to make it happen. Gio gives 3-4 good years while Tavares is in his prime.

Calgary gets a younger D and a Winger with size both of which better align with their timeline.

Not saying I want to trade Gio, but thinking if a trade for Harmonic happens it would look more like this rather than something centered around Wideman or Russell.
- DuranDuran

I'm pretty ok with this. Adds a top top 2 defenseman to the Isles that will wear an "A". Never good trading your captain who just signed an extension.. But..

Honestly I'm happy as long as Edmonton doesn't get him.

I actually think we are one of the best trade partners for this deal.

We have more defense then we know what to do with and that's great Snow wants something of equal value, but there is clearly a reason the trade hasn't happened 2 months ago! Nobody is going to give him what he wants when they all clearly know his hand is being forced.

Russel and Backlund to me would gets this deal done. Good contracts being dealt from both ends.
- Yeah...Baby

Actually, Russell & Backlund is a nice package for him. I was also thinking Hudler (someone that can play on their top line) & Russell & add maybe Klimchuk & maybe eat some salary to cap the cap compliant for the Isles.

The Islanders absolutely do need an immediate replacement for him. It's already been noted in Friedman's initial article reporting this that, per his sources, Snow is looking for a return of a young, comparable defenseman and not prospects or picks.
- eichiefs9

Well, let's consider need vs desire. Looking at their D today, they have:

Boychuk
Hamonic
Hickey
Leddy
Zidlicky (ok, very old)
De Haan
Strait
Pelech

I quite like that D corps, and if you pulled a Hamonic out, yes, it's a loss, but I think Snow is crazy to think of getting a replacement level player of similar age. Especially after news becomes public about Hamonic's:

Desire to be traded
and
a short list of teams he has a preference to be traded to

The only situation that makes sense is where a corresponding player on a western conference team has a desire to move out East. I can't see a scenario where a team is going to trade for an equal caliber player who plays the same position unless it's because they are moving an "attitude problem".

I think the more likely scenario is a lesser talent on D is sent to the Islanders with a kicker (either a vet forward or a prospect on D/F)

Actually, Russell & Backlund is a nice package for him. I was also thinking Hudler (someone that can play on their top line) & Russell & add maybe Klimchuk & maybe eat some salary to cap the cap compliant for the Isles.
- Kevin R

It is, my only concern is who fills the #3 centre spot - that line has been ok this year, so I want to be cautious in how we approach adding to the D, as losing strength down the middle can be equally devastating in other ways.

craig button just said flames should immediately look to move hamilton cause the 18 games he has seen hamilton is a complete bust and nowhere near what people thought... of course button would give up on hamilton way too early, he cut St Louis, and traded Giguire
- Bigern4MVP

Seriously? Like he said this word for word? On Tv or radio or was it in a write up somewhere? Link?

Snow was not looking for a defenseman. At least, there were no reports of it anywhere.

There are more factors than just skill level that come into account though. Hamonic is a RHD, which are always in higher demand than lefties. Hamonic is signed for another 4 seasons at an insanely reasonable $3.75M AAV. Teams that are either up against the cap or have big pending UFA contracts to deal with in the coming few seasons will find Hamonic's level of play and contract status as extremely favorable.

It's beyond rare that a RHD with his type of game, signed long term to a cheap contract ever hits the market. A lot of people think the Isles are going to get fleeced, but I'm very confident that they'll get a real nice return back for Travis.

edit: sorry, his contract is closer to $3.85M AAV. Still insanely reasonable.
- eichiefs9

I understand and agree with all of this. And I don't believe a Snow will get fleeced, but in these "requested trade" trade scenarios the seller usually loses the trade, at least by initial optics. Acquiring a solid prospect could look better down the road. But NYI are also in win now mode. Prospects won't be a priority. So what are you're biggest needs/wants? Wideman is a RD. Adding him (signed for another year after this) and Russell certainly gives you depth. Both could thrive in the faster, more skilled east conf.

It is, my only concern is who fills the #3 centre spot - that line has been ok this year, so I want to be cautious in how we approach adding to the D, as losing strength down the middle can be equally devastating in other ways.
- rmull905

Granlund.

I will probably get lynched for this but:

What about Gio for Harmonic + Dal Colle? I have not really followed Dal Colle's progression but I know he was considered quite a good pick when he was drafted.

Gio goes to an instant contender and makes them better, I think NY has the cap space to make it happen. Gio gives 3-4 good years while Tavares is in his prime.

Calgary gets a younger D and a Winger with size both of which better align with their timeline.

Not saying I want to trade Gio, but thinking if a trade for Harmonic happens it would look more like this rather than something centered around Wideman or Russell.
- DuranDuran

That's a great deal for cgy, not sure if nyi would do it though

Seriously? Like he said this word for word? On Tv or radio or was it in a write up somewhere? Link?
- leonkennedy

said it on leafs lunch, obviously not actual quote but it's what he was saying. They were talking about Hamilton for hamonic and he said there's no way the flames shouldn't do that deal.They asked him if his opinion after only 18 games is that dougie is no where close to the player people thought and he said ya from the games he's watched he's been horrible and isn't as good as people thought

he's an idiot

I know Button is an idiot but I kind of agree with him. Hamilton has looked like poop. He needs to gain some confidence out there. Looks like he's thinking too much. I still have faith he can turn it around, and all in all we didn't really give up much. But caaa maaan Dougie!
- The-O-G

When did you turn into a complete idiot?

I will probably get lynched for this but:

What about Gio for Harmonic + Dal Colle? I have not really followed Dal Colle's progression but I know he was considered quite a good pick when he was drafted.

Gio goes to an instant contender and makes them better, I think NY has the cap space to make it happen. Gio gives 3-4 good years while Tavares is in his prime.

Calgary gets a younger D and a Winger with size both of which better align with their timeline.

Not saying I want to trade Gio, but thinking if a trade for Harmonic happens it would look more like this rather than something centered around Wideman or Russell.
- DuranDuran

Gio isn't going anywhere. I believe he signed that contract with full intentions of retiring as a Flame. No way he moves before it even kicks in, not sure about his old contract but his extension includes a full NTC for the first 4 years.

It's pretty simple, if a deal centred around Wideman and Russell can't be reached we will not be in on this deal. None of our big 3 are moving after just signing long-term contract extensions, it sets a bad example for future negotiations.

Gio isn't going anywhere. I believe he signed that contract with full intentions of retiring as a Flame. No way he moves before it even kicks in, not sure about his old contract but his extension includes a full NTC for the first 4 years.

It's pretty simple, if a deal centred around Wideman and Russell can't be reached we will not be in on this deal. None of our big 3 are moving after just signing long-term contract extensions, it sets a bad example for future negotiations.
- Saskabush

I agree. Gio is not going anywhere. Just the closest thing I could come up with if a deal did happen.

Can't quote today, but I think these are d-men that would interest the Islanders today, from Western Canadian teams only:

Oilers
Darnell Nurse
Oscar Klefbom (+)

Flames
Brodie/Gio/Hamilton - all of whom I think are better options for the Flames right now

Jets
Byfuglien - if they can get him to re-sign
Tyler Myers (+)
Jacob Trouba

Canucks
Tanev/Sbisa/Hutton (+)

That said, you look at the Islanders D-corps, they don't need an active replacement for Hamonic today, they may be able to afford a prospect or even a forward in return. Opening that door would change things in a big way IMO if they are willing to take a lesser player (say a Russell type d-man) to tide them over for now plus a future Kylington/Anderson/Nakladal.

I honestly do not see the Flames picking him up (though if you had asked me 6 months ago if we would have acquired Hamilton, I would have laughed in your face while eating your hat).

Good fit on almost any team, but I don't know that he is your #1 anywhere (yet)
- rmull905

You said sbisa.....I stopped reading there

Actually, Russell & Backlund is a nice package for him. I was also thinking Hudler (someone that can play on their top line) & Russell & add maybe Klimchuk & maybe eat some salary to cap the cap compliant for the Isles.
- Kevin R

id rather see all that go for okposo

saw a tweet, league source said hamonic talks with flames start and end with one of gio/brodie/hamilton

no thanks

saw a tweet, league source said hamonic talks with flames start and end with one of gio/brodie/hamilton

no thanks
- Bigern4MVP

Exactly! Now if it was Hamonic and Strome or Okposo...

Exactly! Now if it was Hamonic and Strome or Okposo...
- DouglasFir

harmonic/okposo for Gio/Jones/poirier

i like poirier. but okposo would be a better fix now and young enough to fit in. no gamble there

harmonic/okposo for Gio/Jones/poirier

i like poirier. but okposo would be a better fix now and young enough to fit in. no gamble there
- numbear

dal colle would be great too, don't think the islanders would want to deal him though