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Fan101
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 18 @ 8:17 PM ET
The team has enough problems with the third pair unsettled and now one of the top four has requested a trade as they enter the heart of the season? I thought Hammer was a team guy who could find a way to help his family. I mean he is not playing on another continent and every team plays 41 games on the road.

However EDM would get an awesome upgrade on D and we may see Pulock, Pelech and company sooner. I would be more inclined to see Hammer play out this season.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Nov 18 @ 8:17 PM ET
Exactly my point. Warts look like mountains when under a microscope. Sure he'd still be in a top-4, but he at least has guys like Leddy and Boychuk ahead of him taking the bigger assignments.
- MaximumBone


Schultz is not Petry.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Nov 18 @ 8:19 PM ET
He reminds me of Matt Gilroy. I'm shocked he's still in the league.
- rangerdanger94

:lol

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rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 18 @ 8:19 PM ET
considering how well hes playing, his age and his contract- I don't think theres a proposal out there that isles fans are gonna be happy with.

while on the flip side, the return theyre proposing is completely out of the question for the fans of the other team


they want all this value fully compensated asap. and I just don't see it working out that way if in fact snow is willing to agree to his trade demand

- Ihateallofu

I think every Isles fan here is more than willing to keep Hamonic as long as it takes to get a fair deal.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Nov 18 @ 8:22 PM ET
The team has enough problems with the third pair unsettled and now one of the top four has requested a trade as they enter the heart of the season? I thought Hammer was a team guy who could find a way to help his family. I mean he is not playing on another continent and every team plays 41 games on the road.

However EDM would get an awesome upgrade on D and we may see Pulock, Pelech and company sooner. I would be more inclined to see Hammer play out this season.

- Fan101

I almost wonder if part of what's going on is that Hamonic has had a change of heart on his contract and is hoping to pressure Snow into some sort of renegotiation? He sees guys like Boychuk and Leddy earning a couple million more per season and thinks to himself, "Why not me?" It's purely speculation, but that's all we can do until Hamonic goes public with the matter...
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 18 @ 8:23 PM ET
I think every Isles fan here is more than willing to keep Hamonic as long as it takes to get a fair deal.
- rangerdanger94

But is Hamonic willing to wait that long and not let the situation get toxic? Without knowing the personal situation, we can't be sure. I'd hope anywhere he goes gives a solid return back to the Isles as I hate seeing anyone lose out on such a good player without at least a decent return (happens every season in Edmonton).
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 18 @ 8:25 PM ET
I think every Isles fan here is more than willing to keep Hamonic as long as it takes to get a fair deal.
- rangerdanger94

I'd vote for never trading hamonic.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Nov 18 @ 8:25 PM ET
Schultz is not Petry.
- tredbrta

hes not

his offensive instincts are on a whole other level. certainly doesn't have the physical side of his game and tends to play soft in his own end, but even that looked a lot different this year before he went down.


its crazy to read all the posts that talk as if petry being good was just matter of fact now after all the hate and vitriol regarding his value and worth before he left.
"he plays on the oilers- he must be terrible"
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 18 @ 8:25 PM ET
But is Hamonic willing to wait that long and not let the situation get toxic? Without knowing the personal situation, we can't be sure. I'd hope anywhere he goes gives a solid return back to the Isles as I hate seeing anyone lose out on such a good player without at least a decent return (happens every season in Edmonton).
- MaximumBone

It seems like he's been professional about it and isn't "demanding" a trade ASAP as much as he formally requested a trade.

Quite frankly, the Isles don't have to do a damn thing and both the Islanders and Hamonic know it.
Dedshark
New York Islanders
Location: Amityville, NY
Joined: 04.01.2008

Nov 18 @ 8:26 PM ET
If I'm snow I'm asking for Darnell Nurse and Yakupov. Start there and don't budge. Or something along those lines. Nurse plus another forward. But I think yak fits the bill.

Oilers get a young stud dman (and play as their #2) under contract for another 5 or 6 years at a more than friendly cap hit.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Nov 18 @ 8:26 PM ET
I almost wonder if part of what's going on is that Hamonic has had a change of heart on his contract and is hoping to pressure Snow into some sort of renegotiation? He sees guys like Boychuk and Leddy earning a couple million more per season and thinks to himself, "Why not me?" It's purely speculation, but that's all we can do until Hamonic goes public with the matter...
- JohnScammo


Not allowed under the CBA and Hamonic is not that person.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 18 @ 8:26 PM ET
hes not

his offensive instincts are on a whole other level. certainly doesn't have the physical side of his game and tends to play soft in his own end, but even that looked a lot different this year before he went down.


its crazy to read all the posts that talk as if petry being good was just matter of fact now after all the hate and vitriol regarding his value and worth before he left.
"he plays on the oilers- he must be terrible"

- Ihateallofu

I don't think you're remembering things clearly. Petry was the ONLY respected defenseman the Oilers had when he was on there.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 18 @ 8:27 PM ET
If I'm snow I'm asking for Darnell Nurse and Yakupov. Start there and don't budge. Or something along those lines. Nurse plus another forward. But I think yak fits the bill.

Oilers get a young stud dman (and play as their #2) under contract for another 5 or 6 years at a more than friendly cap hit.

- Dedshark



Klein for Pulock and Nelson?
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Nov 18 @ 8:27 PM ET
I think every Isles fan here is more than willing to keep Hamonic as long as it takes to get a fair deal.
- rangerdanger94

of course they are


but haven't we been talking about his trade demand?

nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 18 @ 8:28 PM ET
I almost wonder if part of what's going on is that Hamonic has had a change of heart on his contract and is hoping to pressure Snow into some sort of renegotiation? He sees guys like Boychuk and Leddy earning a couple million more per season and thinks to himself, "Why not me?" It's purely speculation, but that's all we can do until Hamonic goes public with the matter...
- JohnScammo


Good thought JS anything is possible.
Fact is he is under contract and him asking / requesting a trade doesn't mean Snow if he isn't getting what he thinks is fair value talent and Cap wise he doesn't have to make a trade.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 18 @ 8:28 PM ET
of course they are


but haven't we been talking about his trade demand?


- Ihateallofu

There's a huge difference between a trade demand and a trade request.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Nov 18 @ 8:29 PM ET
Not allowed under the CBA and Hamonic is not that person.
- tredbrta

Did not know that, thanks. Agree about Hamonic, he's always impressed me with his maturity and team-first attitude.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 18 @ 8:30 PM ET
If I'm snow I'm asking for Darnell Nurse and Yakupov. Start there and don't budge. Or something along those lines. Nurse plus another forward. But I think yak fits the bill.

Oilers get a young stud dman (and play as their #2) under contract for another 5 or 6 years at a more than friendly cap hit.

- Dedshark

I don't see that as a realistic scenario. If I had to pick someone off one of those four teams that was reasonable, id look at tanev in Vancouver. Not sure the Canucks would move him.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Nov 18 @ 8:30 PM ET
I don't think you're remembering things clearly. Petry was the ONLY respected defenseman the Oilers had when he was on there.
- rangerdanger94

yes of course--im imagining the braindead vitriol from the trolls.


silly me




nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 18 @ 8:31 PM ET
There's a huge difference between a trade demand and a trade request.
- rangerdanger94


Guy wants off his team I don't really think there's a difference.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 18 @ 8:31 PM ET
Guy wants off his team I don't really think there's a difference.
- nyisles7

Well you're not very smart.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 18 @ 8:32 PM ET
Guy wants off his team I don't really think there's a difference.
- nyisles7

The situation sucks any way you look at it.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 18 @ 8:33 PM ET
Well you're not very smart.
- rangerdanger94


Tell me the difference in this context then?

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 18 @ 8:34 PM ET
Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 10s10 seconds ago
Confirming report from @FriedgeHNIC, Travis Hamonic requested a trade prior to the start of the season. #Isles trying to accommodate.

- Vukota

This is (frank)ing insane. We can't lose this kid and there's no way we're getting equal value back. This (frank)ing blows.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 18 @ 8:36 PM ET
The situation sucks any way you look at it.
- Isles_since_6


Exactly 6 !
Wether request or demand the player wants out.
Wether request or demand he's under contract.
Wether request or demand Snow will only trade him if it's a good deal for the team.
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