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Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Nov 18 @ 7:27 PM ET
Wants to be closer to his family...Winnipeg is home.
Hamonic for Myers?

- DDM-Coga

Nope. Not enough.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Nov 18 @ 7:28 PM ET
Closer value but hamhuis hasn't been great this year and is a ufa after this year. I doubt the canucks want to move virtanen
- Isles_since_6



Hamhuis is still a good vet to obtain regardless of FA status bc isles could worry bout that in off-season. Plus that's the type of deal that Snow might want..??
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Nov 18 @ 7:30 PM ET
quite possible but regardless theres no rush for Snow...
- Ur Not Me


Of course there is. He doesn't HAVE to do anything but there are many, many reasons why he SHOULD if the proposed reason is true... and it isn't just from compassion but also marketing, player morale and perception etc... I doubt the leak will improve any of the offers he may be considering either.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 18 @ 7:31 PM ET
I'm thinking its family related as well. Mom is prob sick.

So funny how quickly people say it's Brooklyn. Lol.

They commute to Brooklyn 41 times during season. And get bus/ car service home after. So funny. No one wanted to come Nassau bc it's old and Noone wants to come to Brooklyn bc it's not Nassau.
Newsday article for to mention that isles playoffs tickets were easy to get at discount. I bet you they won't be in Brooklyn this spring
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Nov 18 @ 7:31 PM ET
Complete assumption on my part but I'm gonna guess maybe his mother or sibling is sick and with his dad gone maybe he figures he needs to be there
- Vukota

This may sound callous, but if I'm Snow, I tell Hamonic "hey, we get it. You want to be closer to home. We will try to accommodate you but we're not giving you away. If we get a deal for equal or better value in return for you, well accommodate you. If not, plan on finishing out your contract"

Hammer is arguably their best d-man. They can't give him away just to make Hammer happy. They owe it to the other players to make sure if they trade Hammer, they get back a top four d-man, signed and entering his prime, just as Hammer is.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 18 @ 7:34 PM ET
This may sound callous, but if I'm Snow, I tell Hamonic "hey, we get it. You want to be closer to home. We will try to accommodate you but we're not giving you away. If we get a deal for equal or better value in return for you, well accommodate you. If not, plan on finishing out your contract"

Hammer is arguably their best d-man. They can't give him away just to make Hammer happy. They owe it to the other players to make sure if they trade Hammer, they get back a top four d-man, signed and entering his prime, just as Hammer is.

- Jethro09


Garth also has to worry about his own neck. If things go bad he could be out of a job with the new owners coming in.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Nov 18 @ 7:35 PM ET
This may sound callous, but if I'm Snow, I tell Hamonic "hey, we get it. You want to be closer to home. We will try to accommodate you but we're not giving you away. If we get a deal for equal or better value in return for you, well accommodate you. If not, plan on finishing out your contract"

Hammer is arguably their best d-man. They can't give him away just to make Hammer happy. They owe it to the other players to make sure if they trade Hammer, they get back a top four d-man, signed and entering his prime, just as Hammer is.

- Jethro09


Maybe a few decades ago. Not today.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Nov 18 @ 7:35 PM ET
Nurse + isn't to bad
- Ur Not Me

yeah

no thanks
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 18 @ 7:38 PM ET
Nurse + isn't to bad
- Ur Not Me

I don't intend to undervalue Hamonic cause he's great, but Nurse in a non-starter. I'd start at an offer like our 1st with Fayne or Davidson, and a prospect not named Brossoit. It'd likely cost more though considering Fayne's drop off in play early on. I'd swap him with Schultz if that would give more of the element your team is looking for.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Nov 18 @ 7:38 PM ET
yeah

no thanks

- Ihateallofu



Too bad....
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Nov 18 @ 7:39 PM ET
I don't intend to undervalue Hamonic cause he's great, but Nurse in a non-starter. I'd start at an offer like our 1st with Fayne or Davidson, and a prospect not named Brossoit.
- MaximumBone



Convo over, durr u have to give to get, especially a top4 dman w/a long term friendly contract...
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Nov 18 @ 7:41 PM ET
Maybe a few decades ago. Not today.
- tredbrta

The isles cannot just give away their best all around defenseman because he wants to go home, conceding that the reason is likely real legit. Hammer is a top four on any team in the league, a top pair guy on a good number of the teams in the league. You can't just ship him out for s**t because he asked to be shipped out. Hammer has to understand that. If he needs to be home, take a leave of absence and be with your family. That would be totally understandable. But he cNt expect the isles to ship him out from a point of weakness since this got leaked just to accommodate Hammer.
Snowblind
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.08.2014

Nov 18 @ 7:41 PM ET
How about Hamonic, Bailey and Okposo to Edm for Jordan Eberle, Mark Fayne, and 2016 2nd?
- btbossman


I assume this is an Oiler fan trolling with an "Isles" account.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 18 @ 7:41 PM ET
Convo over, durr u have to give to get, especially a top4 dman w/a long term friendly contract...
- Ur Not Me

Is a high 1st not giving to get? And I said that's where it starts. I just hope your GM isn't as obtuse as you.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Nov 18 @ 7:43 PM ET
Is a high 1st not giving to get? And I said that's where it starts. I just hope your GM isn't as obtuse as you.
- MaximumBone




Me & Snow are tied at the hip....


so don't worry, be happy.....
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 18 @ 7:43 PM ET
Nurse + isn't to bad
- Ur Not Me

Realistically, it would be Hamonic + for Nurse.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 18 @ 7:44 PM ET
Nope. Not enough.
- Jethro09

rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 18 @ 7:45 PM ET
The isles cannot just give away their best all around defenseman because he wants to go home, conceding that the reason is likely real legit. Hammer is a top four on any team in the league, a top pair guy on a good number of the teams in the league. You can't just ship him out for s**t because he asked to be shipped out. Hammer has to understand that. If he needs to be home, take a leave of absence and be with your family. That would be totally understandable. But he cNt expect the isles to ship him out from a point of weakness since this got leaked just to accommodate Hammer.
- Jethro09

Well, not ANY team in the league
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Nov 18 @ 7:46 PM ET
Well, not ANY team in the league
- rangerdanger94

Touché.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Nov 18 @ 7:47 PM ET
Realistically, it would be Hamonic + for Nurse.
- rangerdanger94




No it wont, an established top 4 for an unproven kid yet?? grant it the potential is there for Nurse, but it was also there for Myers, Bogosian, etc if you get my point...
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 18 @ 7:47 PM ET
Is a high 1st not giving to get? And I said that's where it starts. I just hope your GM isn't as obtuse as you.
- MaximumBone

A 1st rounder as the center piece doesn't make sense for the Islanders who want to contend now. The only pieces that make sense from you guys is either Sekera or Nurse.
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Nov 18 @ 7:47 PM ET
Well, not ANY team in the league
- rangerdanger94

well his corsi is better than Girardi's so therefore he's better
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 18 @ 7:48 PM ET
No it wont, an established top 4 for an unproven kid yet?? grant it the potential is there for Nurse, but it was also there for Myers, Bogosian, etc if you get my point...
- Ur Not Me

Carl Hagelin for Ryan Strome

See what I did there?
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Nov 18 @ 7:48 PM ET
Is a high 1st not giving to get? And I said that's where it starts. I just hope your GM isn't as obtuse as you.
- MaximumBone


The Isles are closer to win now mode. It was already reported Snow wants an equivalent d man back. He isn't taking picks and prospects. That is really stupid for any team anyways unless you are selling to rebuild and NOT with a 25 year old legit top 4 D like Hamonic.

How many 1st rounders turn into legit top top pairing d men? 1 out of 5? 10?

You probably have one in Nurse so I can see not giving him up but don't pretend you're getting Snow to not take an NHL player back in the deal. Maybe if this drags on and you have a top 3 pick.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Nov 18 @ 7:50 PM ET
I don't intend to undervalue Hamonic cause he's great, but Nurse in a non-starter. I'd start at an offer like our 1st with Fayne or Davidson, and a prospect not named Brossoit. It'd likely cost more though considering Fayne's drop off in play early on. I'd swap him with Schultz if that would give more of the element your team is looking for.
- MaximumBone

Another prospect of draft pick is not what the isles need. They need someone coming back to slot into their top four and give them what Hammer gives them. Prospects and draft picks don't do that. I don't see the isles moving Hammer to any team for picks/prospects. That f**ks the "D" for this season. One more big injury to one of the other top four guys and the isles would be in dire straits (no pun intended)
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