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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 18 @ 6:23 PM ET
And Bernier is...
Pretty much the 1rst for Hamonic but you get a right shot D back.

- Wildschwein


yeah no thanks.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 18 @ 6:24 PM ET
Also, can someone please explain why anyone would want to discuss anything with Anthony Weiner - much less advertise that they are as if it will be interesting?

Saw this guy on Maher recently. He acts as if he is still elected and actually popular in some way. If Huma wasn't Hillary's gatekeeper and geriatric cognitive interpreter Anthony would be mopping floors in the basement at Media Matters.

- tredbrta


I have no interest in anything Anthony Weiner has to say. No offense to Noel intended.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Nov 18 @ 6:29 PM ET
I have no interest in anything Anthony Weiner has to say. No offense to Noel intended.
- ses111

I haven't listened to the podcast yet, but, putting aside his politics, Weiner is a smart, articulate guy with the morals of a snake. For that reason, I will listen to the podcast, because he's not boring.
mventres
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.09.2008

Nov 18 @ 6:39 PM ET
too bad PIT isn't on the list, he would be a PERFECT fit...likely spots are EDM and VAN, given previous history of making deals EDM seems like a higher probability. WPG and CGY have too many D as it is. Otherwise, SJ could very much use him as well...
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Nov 18 @ 6:40 PM ET
I haven't listened to the podcast yet, but, putting aside his politics, Weiner is a smart, articulate guy with the morals of a snake. For that reason, I will listen to the podcast, because he's not boring.
- JohnScammo


There is a pod cast featuring Charlie Sheen discussing his personal hygiene regimen and NHL officiating next month. Mark your calendar.

Weiner may be articulate but he is posing as an intellectual.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Nov 18 @ 6:40 PM ET
Guys, Snow doesn't have to trade Hammer bc he's under contract, it just seems Snow is trying to accommodate Hammer on his wishes, so there's no way isles will get lesser value bc of this news being leaked....
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Nov 18 @ 6:41 PM ET
Hamonic + 2nd for Nurse
- rangerdanger94


Eberle for Zucc.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Nov 18 @ 6:42 PM ET
too bad PIT isn't on the list, he would be a PERFECT fit...likely spots are EDM and VAN, given previous history of making deals EDM seems like a higher probability. WPG and CGY have too many D as it is. Otherwise, SJ could very much use him as well...
- mventres


Guess you missed the part about Snow wanting a D man back.

It's ok. You probably thought Plotnikov was top 6 too.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 18 @ 6:44 PM ET
Guys, Snow doesn't have to trade Hammer bc he's under contract, it just seems Snow is trying to accommodate Hammer on his wishes, so there's no way isles will get lesser value bc of this news being leaked....
- Ur Not Me

Well it's obvious he's not dumping him for dirt cheap, it's been 6 or more weeks since Travis made the request. If Snow was actually going to get boned on this it'd be over with already.

The return may not be actual fair market value for a young 2-3 defenseman that's cheap and signed long term, but it's not going to be sh!t either.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 18 @ 6:49 PM ET
Well it's obvious he's not dumping him for dirt cheap, it's been 6 or more weeks since Travis made the request. If Snow was actually going to get boned on this it'd be over with already.

The return may not be actual fair market value for a young 2-3 defenseman that's cheap and signed long term, but it's not going to be sh!t either.

- eichiefs9


Having a guy like Pulock to call up should help. I know he is not on Hamonic's level.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 18 @ 6:51 PM ET
Having a guy like Pulock to call up should help. I know he is not on Hamonic's level.
- ses111

It eases the blow in the long run, but it's still far from ideal if they want to even consider making any kind of playoff run. They need to get a quality NHL defenseman back or this is a big problem
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Nov 18 @ 6:54 PM ET
1rst rounder + Fayne for Hamonic and Bernier?
- Wildschwein



Are you willing to give up your possible #1 overall pick for hamonic?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 18 @ 6:54 PM ET
It eases the blow in the long run, but it's still far from ideal if they want to even consider making any kind of playoff run. They need to get a quality NHL defenseman back or this is a big problem
- eichiefs9


I agree. It will hurt for a long playoff run. Hopefully they get a quality NHL dman in the trade.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Nov 18 @ 6:55 PM ET
It eases the blow in the long run, but it's still far from ideal if they want to even consider making any kind of playoff run. They need to get a quality NHL defenseman back or this is a big problem
- eichiefs9




How bout Hamhuis, Virtanen + pick for Hammer?
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Nov 18 @ 6:56 PM ET
Having a guy like Pulock to call up should help. I know he is not on Hamonic's level.
- ses111


We have no idea what we have in Pulock, probably should have gotten some games in for him considering we knew of this news since the summer.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Nov 18 @ 6:56 PM ET


Are you willing to give up your possible #1 overall pick for hamonic?

- SRam19


Had enough of the (frank)ing things, time to share. Plus I think you undervalue Hamonic and the needs of the Oilers organization.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 18 @ 6:57 PM ET
We have no idea what we have in Pulock, probably should have gotten some games in for him considering we knew of this news since the summer.
- Danformo


No question he should have been up by now and Pelech should have remained in the lineup after his solid 1st game.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Nov 18 @ 7:05 PM ET
Guys, Snow doesn't have to trade Hammer bc he's under contract, it just seems Snow is trying to accommodate Hammer on his wishes, so there's no way isles will get lesser value bc of this news being leaked....
- Ur Not Me


Hold on there. Why not wait to find out the reason before jumping to that conclusion? If Hamonic requested a trade due to a family member being critically ill Snow will simply take his own time? I haven't seen anything in print suggesting exactly what it is. Maybe Hamonic will reveal it tomorrow? If it is an illness then this leak may be because Snow has not moved quickly enough.

Even under contract - Hamonic could take a leave of absence... There are many ways this could become a pressured trade.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 18 @ 7:09 PM ET
How bout Hamhuis, Virtanen + pick for Hammer?
- Ur Not Me

Closer value but hamhuis hasn't been great this year and is a ufa after this year. I doubt the canucks want to move virtanen
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 18 @ 7:10 PM ET
Hold on there. Why not wait to find out the reason before jumping to that conclusion? If Hamonic requested a trade due to a family member being critically ill Snow will simply take his own time? I haven't seen anything in print suggesting exactly what it is. Maybe Hamonic will reveal it tomorrow? If it is an illness then this leak may be because Snow has not moved quickly enough.

Even under contract - Hamonic could take a leave of absence... There are many ways this could become a pressured trade.

- tredbrta


I think the bold is exactly what's happening.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Nov 18 @ 7:15 PM ET
I think the bold is exactly what's happening.
- Isles_since_6


That is where I am at too. An agent went to Friedman/Dreger or something. If it is illness than Snow should have moved more quickly but I'll wait for word from Hamonic.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Nov 18 @ 7:18 PM ET
Hold on there. Why not wait to find out the reason before jumping to that conclusion? If Hamonic requested a trade due to a family member being critically ill Snow will simply take his own time? I haven't seen anything in print suggesting exactly what it is. Maybe Hamonic will reveal it tomorrow? If it is an illness then this leak may be because Snow has not moved quickly enough.

Even under contract - Hamonic could take a leave of absence... There are many ways this could become a pressured trade.

- tredbrta



quite possible but regardless theres no rush for Snow...
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 18 @ 7:20 PM ET
quite possible but regardless theres no rush for Snow...
- Ur Not Me


It's not easy making a quick move for a guy like Hamonic and especially if there are only a few teams in play. It sucks that this thing leaked like the Nino situation even if it is not the same thing.
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Nov 18 @ 7:21 PM ET
This whole situation stinks. Hamonic is arguably our best defenseman. Would love to get Nurse from Edmonton
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Nov 18 @ 7:23 PM ET
This whole situation stinks. Hamonic is arguably our best defenseman. Would love to get Nurse from Edmonton
- NYI44



Nurse + isn't to bad
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