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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 3:28 PM ET
Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 43s44 seconds ago
McKenzie was asked which team he thought was most likely to land Travis Hamonic. #Isles #NHLJets #Oilers 1/4


Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 46s46 seconds ago
McKenzie: #NHLJets have the assets, but not sure how fit would work. Has to be some way to make it work. #Isles 2/4


Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 35s35 seconds ago
McKenzie: “I think Edmonton has a stronger desire for the player. I just don’t think they have the fit right now.” #Oilers #Isles 3/4


Chris Nichols ‏@NicholsOnHockey 23s23 seconds ago
McKenzie: “Edmonton might want it more than anybody else right now.” #Oilers #NHLJets #Isles #Hamonic 4/4
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:28 PM ET
You're right.......but we will never know. We can only speculate at this point. Hey, he might be on this team all year. But then that begs the question, is the family emergency not that immediate that he can wait all year???
- kindlyrick


Could be a slew of things. Maybe his mom was diagnosed with cancer and is going to be battling for the next few years and wants to get there as soon as possible but also knowing he doesn't have to be there 24/7 at this current time.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 19 @ 3:30 PM ET
Before Christmas.... book it.
- Ur Not Me


OK if its coming from you I will.

Who's the coach in Toronto now?
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Nov 19 @ 3:31 PM ET
I disagree. He has been talking to GM's for over 6 weeks now so they know the deal already and have known for some time. Who cares that the rest of the league knows now because he isn't getting traded to any of them anyway.
- Vukota



Right - He's been putting out feelers about Travis since camp -according to Staple - But do you think Garth revealed that Travis wanted out to other GM's? I wouldn't offer that info I was trying to trade him. Would you?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:32 PM ET
Where was the need to be closer to family at the draft? We coulda kept Griff and traded Travis for more than just a pick. I am REALLY curious to find out the details of his thinking.

The term"business as usual" never applies to this team. There's always something unique that they have to deal with.

- jmo16


The logical answer to that would be whatever devastating news he got about a family member came after the Draft and before camp started
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
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Nov 19 @ 3:32 PM ET
Schultz + 3rd at best now
- rangerdanger94

kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:34 PM ET
Evander Kane wanted out of Winnipeg since they were in Atlanta, and they got a pretty nice return for him.
- eichiefs9



Good point
Vukota
New York Islanders
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Nov 19 @ 3:34 PM ET
Right - He's been putting out feelers about Travis since camp -according to Staple - But do you think Garth revealed that Travis wanted out to other GM's? I wouldn't offer that info I was trying to trade him. Would you?
- jmo16


Of course the other GM's had to know it was something personal. You think they were just like hey the isles want to trade a young cost friendly Dman who is 3 years into a 7 yr deal for another Dman just like him for no reason?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
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Nov 19 @ 3:35 PM ET
Evander Kane wanted out of Winnipeg since they were in Atlanta, and they got a pretty nice return for him.
- eichiefs9



Only difference Kane probably would have went anywhere. Pretty limited with Hamonic
jmo16
New York Islanders
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Nov 19 @ 3:35 PM ET
The logical answer to that would be whatever devastating news he got about a family member came after the Draft and before camp started
- Vukota



Thanks Spock.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:36 PM ET
Could be a slew of things. Maybe his mom was diagnosed with cancer and is going to be battling for the next few years and wants to get there as soon as possible but also knowing he doesn't have to be there 24/7 at this current time.
- Vukota



If i was a betting man, id say you are probably right. Sucks......as if that family didnt go through enough losing their father (and husband) WAYYY too soon. Prayers are with them if thats the case.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 19 @ 3:36 PM ET
The logical answer to that would be whatever devastating news he got about a family member came after the Draft and before camp started
- Vukota


Might not even be about a family member in western Canada, He may just hate (frank)ing NY and or his Fiancee hates it and they don't want to bring up a family here. If someone was ill I think they would have said that imho. No one really knows for sure.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:36 PM ET
Thanks Spock.
- jmo16


If it was that obvious then why ask?
Vukota
New York Islanders
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Nov 19 @ 3:37 PM ET
Might not even be about a family member in western Canada, He may just hate (frank)ing NY and or his Fiancee hates it and they don't want to bring up a family here. If someone was ill I think they would have said that imho. No one really knows for sure.
- nyisles7

Are you serious? Who likes to share personal info about family members with people they really don't know? If he hated NY he would have never signed that 7 yr deal
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 3:38 PM ET
Only difference Kane probably would have went anywhere. Pretty limited with Hamonic
- mdw7413

On paper, yes. But I think (and this was kind of confirmed by those McKenzie interview tweets) that Snow is going to be talking to nearly every team in the Western Conference, save for a few. I don't think Snow is nearly as handcuffed as most others appear to.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:39 PM ET
On paper, yes. But I think (and this was kind of confirmed by those McKenzie interview tweets) that Snow is going to be talking to nearly every team in the Western Conference, save for a few. I don't think Snow is nearly as handcuffed as most others appear to.
- eichiefs9



I think Snow is asking for A LOT in return and its going to come down to one team just saying phuck it and over paying. Its a matter of who's gonna blink first.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 3:40 PM ET
Might not even be about a family member in western Canada, He may just hate (frank)ing NY and or his Fiancee hates it and they don't want to bring up a family here. If someone was ill I think they would have said that imho. No one really knows for sure.
- nyisles7

He was quoted as saying this:

“At the root of all this is a personal family matter of mine that I hold dear to my heart,” Hamonic said after practice, just one day after it his trade request was revealed.

Things about my family have been well documented in the past. In this situation, that’s as far as I’m going to go: It’s a personal family matter. I probably wouldn’t want to get more into detail.”


That most certainly does not sound like his GF doesn't like LI, to me.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
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Nov 19 @ 3:40 PM ET
On paper, yes. But I think (and this was kind of confirmed by those McKenzie interview tweets) that Snow is going to be talking to nearly every team in the Western Conference, save for a few. I don't think Snow is nearly as handcuffed as most others appear to.
- eichiefs9



True, in reality we don't know exactly how many teams he would be willing to go to.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:40 PM ET
If i was a betting man, id say you are probably right. Sucks......as if that family didnt go through enough losing their father (and husband) WAYYY too soon. Prayers are with them if thats the case.
- kindlyrick


I'm only guessing but something along those lines seems the most logical
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 3:41 PM ET
I think Snow is asking for A LOT in return and its going to come down to one team just saying phuck it and over paying. Its a matter of who's gonna blink first.
- kindlyrick

Yeah and Snow isn't the type of guy to fold his hand and walk away. Hell, he took Nelson down to the wire to get him to sign that contract. He was risking having to bench one of our best young players for an entire season.
jmo16
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Nov 19 @ 3:41 PM ET
Of course the other GM's had to know it was something personal. You think they were just like hey the isles want to trade a young cost friendly Dman who is 3 years into a 7 yr deal for another Dman just like him for no reason?
- Vukota



I would guard that info like my daughters virginity, after our car broke down outside a mexican roadside cantina—IF I had a daughter.

Never reveal your hand - You open up the convo asking what you want - not who you're willing to trade. Offer a prospect and sweeten the deal with Travis. If the rest of the team didn't know then how would other GMs?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:41 PM ET
He was quoted as saying this:

“At the root of all this is a personal family matter of mine that I hold dear to my heart,” Hamonic said after practice, just one day after it his trade request was revealed.

Things about my family have been well documented in the past. In this situation, that’s as far as I’m going to go: It’s a personal family matter. I probably wouldn’t want to get more into detail.”


That most certainly does not sound like his GF doesn't like LI, to me.

- eichiefs9


They said he was almost in tears talking to the press so yeah I'm gonna say it has nothing to do with his GF and hating NY
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 3:42 PM ET
They said he was almost in tears talking to the press so yeah I'm gonna say it has nothing to do with his GF and hating NY
- Vukota

"and...then....she...told me...that....um...the...L.I.E....has really really bad traffic "
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:44 PM ET
I would guard that info like my daughters virginity, after our car broke down outside a mexican roadside cantina—IF I had a daughter.

Never reveal your hand - You open up the convo asking what you want - not who you're willing to trade. Offer a prospect and sweeten the deal with Travis. If the rest of the team didn't know then how would other GMs?

- jmo16


Mexican word of the day is : Cantina


"Cantina come to the hotel with Juan for $100?"
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 3:46 PM ET
I would guard that info like my daughters virginity, after our car broke down outside a mexican roadside cantina—IF I had a daughter.

Never reveal your hand - You open up the convo asking what you want - not who you're willing to trade. Offer a prospect and sweeten the deal with Travis. If the rest of the team didn't know then how would other GMs?

- jmo16


Yeah but its not your normal trading situation. The isles don't want to trade him. These other Gm's aren't stupid. If Snow doesn't say anything then they think something is wrong with him and they would never offer full value for him. If they know what the deal is they will realize there is nothing wrong with him and might offer a realistic offer. Teams just don't trade young top 4 dman on good deals for another Dman. C'mon man. GM's in this league talk all the time. Snow can't control what another GM decides to do with that info
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