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btbossman
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 03.13.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:48 AM ET
Don't always need to hit, honestly. (I await the dozens of comments telling me I'm wrong) Just need a guy that can retrieve the puck out of the corners and exit the zone with possession safely.
- eichiefs9



You won't get it from me.. I totally agree... Many hits are overkill. Just not needed... takes them out of the play as the puck/play is already moved ahead.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:49 AM ET
Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 14s14 seconds ago
Hamonic says his request is strictly personal, nothing to do with #Isles. "I've been treated like gold ever since they drafted me."




Probably a lot more tweets on this to follow...
stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA
Joined: 01.13.2015

Nov 19 @ 11:50 AM ET
Why has Snow said he is not interested in picks or prospects for Hamonic?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 14s14 seconds ago
Hamonic says his request is strictly personal, nothing to do with #Isles. "I've been treated like gold ever since they drafted me."




Probably a lot more tweets on this to follow...

- eichiefs9

Brett Cyrgalis ‏@BrettCyrgalis 1m1 minute ago
Hamonic called the matter "strictly personal" and understandably wouldn't go any further. Said he'd play the whole season if need be. #Isles
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
Why has Snow said he is not interested in picks or prospects for Hamonic?
- stowerkraut

Because we're losing our 2nd or 3rd best defenseman. Picks and prospects don't play defense now. If this were the Islanders 5 years ago, sure that would make sense. But they're trying to compete now.
batteryjackson
New York Islanders
Location: MEDICINE HAT MEDICINE PUSHERS, AB
Joined: 09.30.2014

Nov 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
Brett Cyrgalis ‏@BrettCyrgalis 1m1 minute ago
Hamonic called the matter "strictly personal" and understandably wouldn't go any further. Said he'd play the whole season if need be. #Isles

- Vukota


the guy is a class act all the way
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 11:52 AM ET
Why has Snow said he is not interested in picks or prospects for Hamonic?
- stowerkraut


Because they are a playoff team and he wants an NHL player back for one of his best D-men
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:52 AM ET
Why has Snow said he is not interested in picks or prospects for Hamonic?
- stowerkraut



My guess, when you are losing one of your top 3 defenceman with nobody to fill in, picks and prospects aren't going to help much.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:53 AM ET
Brett Cyrgalis ‏@BrettCyrgalis 1m1 minute ago
Hamonic called the matter "strictly personal" and understandably wouldn't go any further. Said he'd play the whole season if need be. #Isles

- Vukota


I'm not sure how this got out then?
stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA
Joined: 01.13.2015

Nov 19 @ 11:54 AM ET
Because we're losing our 2nd or 3rd best defenseman. Picks and prospects don't play defense now. If this were the Islanders 5 years ago, sure that would make sense. But they're trying to compete now.
- eichiefs9


Understood. Thought there were a few high end Dmen in the pipeline. Plus the 4 western teams involved are/have been basement dwellers for years and are loaded, especially WINN with forwards.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:57 AM ET
Understood. Thought there were a few high end Dmen in the pipeline. Plus the 4 western teams involved are/have been basement dwellers for years and are loaded, especially WINN with forwards.
- stowerkraut

There's really only one, but regardless...we all know defensemen a) are a crap shoot and b) take a long time to develop. Pulock could jump in now if need be but he could take 2-3 years to fully reach his potential...if he ever does.

We're giving up a sure thing and talking about replacing him with a long-term/inherently unsure thing. It's a scary thought, which is why Snow is looking for an immediate replacement for Hamonic.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:58 AM ET
Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 32s32 seconds ago
Tavares has no concerns about Hamonic or the #Isles now that word is out. "We're going to support him and he's going to play his hardest."
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 19 @ 11:58 AM ET
Anybody know where Hammer's Fiancée / wife is from?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 19 @ 11:59 AM ET
Understood. Thought there were a few high end Dmen in the pipeline. Plus the 4 western teams involved are/have been basement dwellers for years and are loaded, especially WINN with forwards.
- stowerkraut


Pulock is high end, but it may still take some time. Would be nice if he got some games in already this year and especially when this trade request was known before the season. Like chief mentioned, the Islanders may get back a Myers or Trouba.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Nov 19 @ 11:59 AM ET
Loves to blow.

Also, she's always wet.

- eichiefs9


Hitchcock is way past menopause. No way he could respond any longer to Hamonic's hitting like that. Though he would try. Now, a cheap shot might get a result. Hitch loves cheap shots.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM ET
I'd give them Hamonic and Okposo for Shattenkirk without thinking twice. Outside of Tarasenko, they are hot garbage down the right side.
- eichiefs9


Shatty may be better offensively but that is an overpay.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
Shatty may be better offensively but that is an overpay.
- tredbrta


I agree
stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA
Joined: 01.13.2015

Nov 19 @ 12:03 PM ET
There's really only one, but regardless...we all know defensemen a) are a crap shoot and b) take a long time to develop. Pulock could jump in now if need be but he could take 2-3 years to fully reach his potential...if he ever does.

We're giving up a sure thing and talking about replacing him with a long-term/inherently unsure thing. It's a scary thought, which is why Snow is looking for an immediate replacement for Hamonic.

- eichiefs9


I gothcha. Just curious why Snow's handcuff himself to swapping Ham for an established roster Dman. Those trades are difficult. At least entertain adding 2 forward prospects for depth. If the D struggles other deals could be made. i.e. pick and a prospect for a rental like Hamhius for example.

Of the 4 teams speculated as trade partners who's the fans pick team wise and player wise?
stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA
Joined: 01.13.2015

Nov 19 @ 12:06 PM ET
Pulock is high end, but it may still take some time. Would be nice if he got some games in already this year and especially when this trade request has known before the season. Like cheif mentioned, the Islanders may get back a Myers or Trouba.
- ses111


Even with Buff on the out and Enstrom breaking down? Would Russell work from Cal?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 19 @ 12:07 PM ET
Shatty may be better offensively but that is an overpay.
- tredbrta

Okposo is a pending UFA that the Isles aren't going to re-sign and Hamonic wants out regardless. It's a no-brainer for us.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 12:11 PM ET
Okposo is a pending UFA that the Isles aren't going to re-sign and Hamonic wants out regardless. It's a no-brainer for us.
- eichiefs9


So who replaces Okposo for this year?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 19 @ 12:12 PM ET
Okposo is a pending UFA that the Isles aren't going to re-sign and Hamonic wants out regardless. It's a no-brainer for us.
- eichiefs9

Too bad Shattenkirk has stated his dream is to play for the Rangers. He'd likely refuse to play if dealt to his most hated team the Islanders.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Nov 19 @ 12:12 PM ET
I gothcha. Just curious why Snow's handcuff himself to swapping Ham for an established roster Dman. Those trades are difficult. At least entertain adding 2 forward prospects for depth. If the D struggles other deals could be made. i.e. pick and a prospect for a rental like Hamhius for example.

Of the 4 teams speculated as trade partners who's the fans pick team wise and player wise?

- stowerkraut


Because top pairing D men may be the most difficult position to develop. If he loses Hamonic and settles for a rental he sets himself up for a big gap in the lineup down the line.. and if Pulock was ready he would already be playing in the NHL. Most top pairing potential guys are up within 2 seasons unless the NHL team is complete garbage and management knows it could hurt their development.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Nov 19 @ 12:12 PM ET
Even with Buff on the out and Enstrom breaking down? Would Russell work from Cal?
- stowerkraut


I'm not familiar with Russell. i think some Isles fans have said no to Russell though.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 19 @ 12:13 PM ET
So who replaces Okposo for this year?
- Vukota

Kreider after you acquire him for Brian Strait
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