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Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Nov 18 @ 7:27 PM ET
Zawaski aslos saying Daley is on the block and Hawks wouldnt need much in return.
- mrpaulish


Daley is an obvious trade candidate, I said the same about a week ago...

Daley needed to be a steady, consistent player and have a veteran influence.
No need to look further than his TOI to see what Q thinks of him so far and how inconsistent he has been.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Nov 18 @ 7:29 PM ET
Dallas places far less importance on defense and as we see with Daley he was a top 4 in Dallas and in Chicago he really isn't capable of playing in Q's system at all because of his lack of defensive commitment and skill. Same with Sharp, if Q allowed him to play strictly an offensive game he's be a top scorer for the Hawks too. When the important games come poor defense will be Dallas' downfall as it was last season and the ones before that.
- paulr


Daley was slotted too high last season and it didn't take Q very long to put him on the 3rd pairing where he belongs...At least that's where Daley belongs on teams in a Cup hunt.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Nov 18 @ 7:30 PM ET
From the article...

"Daley and Ryan Garbutt were acquired from the Dallas Stars by Chicago in the summer for winger Patrick Sharp and defence prospect Stephen Johns in a deal that is looking more lopsided by the week."

I know Sharpie's in a more friendly offensive system and he is with two playmakers, but still happy for him...

Again why take Daley in that deal when Oduya is still here waiting to sign...meanwhile Nill got Sharp/Johns and Oduya when all was said and done.

Hopefully Stan can move Daley for picks and regain that cap space to go after another vet dman who will fit the system better. As Mex mentions plenty of vets out there at the end of their deals...Russell as several have mentioned and what about Soupy - maybe a bit long in the tooth here but he certainly knows the system...and is a left handed shot...

- DK002


They took Daley because Bowman wasn't in control of that trade and Oduya cost an extra $400k to keep.
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Nov 18 @ 7:47 PM ET
Maybe I misread the report, but I thought Hamonic requested a trade to the west coast. How is Winnipeg considered west coast? They're not any closer to the west coast than Chicago is ... okay, maybe a little bit closer - like a half inch on the map
- EbonyRaptor

Freidman's article actually said Hamonic requested a trade to the West, which I took to mean western conference. Dreger specified teams in western Canada.
Hawks_49
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 04.28.2015

Nov 18 @ 7:56 PM ET
Not sure what Hamonic's family concerns are, but I hope he ends up in Winnipeg because for him to request a trade here means it must be pretty serious. Winnipeg has the pieces to get it done and I hope Chevy and Snow are able to get it done and be satisfied.
MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Joined: 10.01.2006

Nov 18 @ 7:57 PM ET
As an aside...Colin Fraser just retired. So, that leaves Bickell from the original trade...

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...from-professional-hockey/

- CanOCorn


Colin Fraser and the Sedin twins have won a combined two Stanley Cups. Impressive.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Nov 18 @ 8:08 PM ET
Not sure what Hamonic's family concerns are, but I hope he ends up in Winnipeg because for him to request a trade here means it must be pretty serious. Winnipeg has the pieces to get it done and I hope Chevy and Snow are able to get it done and be satisfied.
- Hawks_49


And they also said Snow has known since training camp. If it is a critical illness Snow should have made something happen sooner. Hamonic is supposed to say something tomorrow. He is a high character guy so assume it is serious. Hope it works out for him.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Nov 18 @ 8:16 PM ET
And they also said Snow has known since training camp. If it is a critical illness Snow should have made something happen sooner. Hamonic is supposed to say something tomorrow. He is a high character guy so assume it is serious. Hope it works out for him.
- tredbrta

Harmonic is concussion prone, I know he had three two years ago including one that kept him out for almost a month. I also believe he had a bad one last season. I like him allot but I'd be concerned about the severe concussions and the fact his game is very physical
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Nov 18 @ 8:18 PM ET
Harmonic is concussion prone, I know he had three two years ago including one that kept him out for almost a month. I also believe he had a bad one last season. I like him allot but I'd be concerned about the severe concussions and the fact his game is very physical
- paulr


regardless of that you don't trade for someone who is going thru a possible family problem right now and have them play at there best game. would rather keep the assests and make a deal for someone who's head will be in it.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Nov 18 @ 8:21 PM ET
regardless of that you don't trade for someone who is going thru a possible family problem right now and have them play at there best game. would rather keep the assests and make a deal for someone who's head will be in it.
- SaskHawkFan

I wasn't suggesting a trade I was pointing out he has concussion issues.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Nov 18 @ 8:24 PM ET
Freidman's article actually said Hamonic requested a trade to the West, which I took to mean western conference. Dreger specified teams in western Canada.
- Marlowe


I heard on the NHL Network it is to Western Canada...Issue there is supposedly the NYI want a dman as good in return.
eagle50
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.13.2012

Nov 18 @ 9:06 PM ET
Geographically speaking the Wild could be a good fit and they have some pieces.
Hawkeyes1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.14.2015

Nov 18 @ 9:18 PM ET
Game stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdq084Krgu0
TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Nov 18 @ 9:22 PM ET
Isn't this Kero's 10th game? Does that mean he's up for the season?

GO HOCKS!

- hocktock

Kero was signed as a undrafted free agent from college. The 10 game mark applies to players from juniors.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Nov 18 @ 9:23 PM ET
Geographically speaking the Wild could be a good fit {for Harmonic} and they have some pieces.
- eagle50


I was just thinking that.
TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Nov 18 @ 9:25 PM ET
Sharpie with 15 points already
- EnzoD

impossible. He is declining.
eagle50
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.13.2012

Nov 18 @ 9:33 PM ET
Kero was signed as a undrafted free agent from college. The 10 game mark applies to players from juniors.
- TTtime

Is that completely true as I always thoght it was an age thing which just ends up being a junior issue.The slide could easily apply to some young player who has never played junior it just doesn't seem to ever happen.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Nov 18 @ 9:34 PM ET
impossible. He is declining.
- TTtime


Half of this board could probably have 5 points playing next to Seguin & Benn lol. Outstanding offensive talents and I think Jamie is growing into a great "Lead by Example" captain. Benn does it all. Sharpie would look awfully good next to 19/81 right now....brings back memories of 10 playing like a man possessed to make Team Canada...good times. Here's hoping for a great game from Daley. Boost that trade value and get us a dependable depth D StanBo! Let's Go Hawks!!!
matt_ahrens
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Nov 18 @ 9:34 PM ET
From the article...

"Daley and Ryan Garbutt were acquired from the Dallas Stars by Chicago in the summer for winger Patrick Sharp and defence prospect Stephen Johns in a deal that is looking more lopsided by the week."

I know Sharpie's in a more friendly offensive system and he is with two playmakers, but still happy for him...

Again why take Daley in that deal when Oduya is still here waiting to sign...meanwhile Nill got Sharp/Johns and Oduya when all was said and done.

Hopefully Stan can move Daley for picks and regain that cap space to go after another vet dman who will fit the system better. As Mex mentions plenty of vets out there at the end of their deals...Russell as several have mentioned and what about Soupy - maybe a bit long in the tooth here but he certainly knows the system...and is a left handed shot...

- DK002


To sign Oduya they needed to trade Sharp. Was any team willing and able to make that trade with the Blackhawks? If not, getting Daley make sense to backfill Oduya's spot.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Nov 18 @ 9:35 PM ET
Darling should not give up his day job.
Hawkeyes1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.14.2015

Nov 18 @ 9:36 PM ET
6-1 Hawks, Late Edm goal.
TTtime
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.17.2015

Nov 18 @ 9:42 PM ET
Half of this board could probably have 5 points playing next to Seguin & Benn lol. Outstanding offensive talents and I think Jamie is growing into a great "Lead by Example" captain. Benn does it all. Sharpie would look awfully good next to 19/81 right now....brings back memories of 10 playing like a man possessed to make Team Canada...good times. Here's hoping for a great game from Daley. Boost that trade value and get us a dependable depth D StanBo! Let's Go Hawks!!!
- EnzoD


Sharp produced last season when he played in the top 6. At just about his career rate.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Nov 18 @ 9:49 PM ET
Sharp produced last season when he played in the top 6. At just about his career rate.
- TTtime


If we didn't have a dead $4mil on the books I have no doubt 10 would be in a Hawks uniform right now
CBHawks88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Pallie
Joined: 07.05.2012

Nov 18 @ 9:56 PM ET
(frank)ing terrible PP
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Nov 18 @ 9:56 PM ET
That pp STUNK
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