Salary Cap Flexibility, depending on the trade. Maybe a precursor to a larger deal? I want Daley to succeed as much as the next Hawks' fan. I think his offense will come but his overall defensive abilities are not there. He is not physical, does not have good gap control, doesn't protect the crease and doesn't win many board battles. He will always be a liability defensively, problem is, he isn't providing much/any offensive output to balance things....
- EnzoD

Which is why I'd like to see Daley paired with Hjalmarsson. Perhaps that might help?

On the main HockeyBuzz page, EK has Bruins and Canadians interested in Daley.

Sharpie with 15 points already
- EnzoD

While Sharp is off to a nice scoring clip, lets call a spade a spade

He is playing for a team that is pretty sad in a 200ft defensive responsibility scheme and he is playing alongside 2 guys that probably would have finished in the top 5 of the art ross race last year (if seguin played the whole season)

This isnt some rebirth year for Sharp. This is sharp going to a much more wide open offensive system and riding the coattails of two premier offensive players hitting their prime.

Does Sharp produce anywhere near this kind of production away from these two if he is placed on the 2nd unit PP or the second and third lines? Absolutely not

Not to pick on you Darth, but here's where this logic is flawed.

Trevor Daley didn't just get promoted form Rochester. This is a guy who has been a pretty good, albeit somewhat one-dimensional, defenseman in the NHL for ten years. Clearly, he is struggling with his role in Chicago and the system expectations.

Why would Holden or player X be any different?

Sure they may/could deal for a guy who will fit right in and go. But evidence suggests it takes time for some guys (Oduya, Daley).

Point being, just "trade Daley" doesn't necessarily solve anything.
- John Jaeckel

I think you have overlooked one critically important fact about dealing Daley - the availability of Q's bullpen ace 'The Great Cumiskey'.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/trevor-daley-trade-asking-price-ottawa-senators-defenceman-chicago-blackhawks-second-round-pick/
- PFD_Hawks

A 2nd and Puempel would be a nice get for Daley. I wonder what Wiz thinks of Puempel?

If they add a forward for Daley I would expect another trade - forwards going for a D man back possibly.

Daley going is really about cap space and his lag in picking up the defensive game Q demands IMO.

On the main HockeyBuzz page, EK has Bruins and Canadians interested in Daley.
- powerenforcer

Sens, Bruins, and Habs.... bidding war?

Daley will do better with a team who wants him just to free wheel.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/trevor-daley-trade-asking-price-ottawa-senators-defenceman-chicago-blackhawks-second-round-pick/
- PFD_Hawks

So a team wanting to get better defensively is considering Daley? Doesn't seem like he fits the bill. Maybe if they were looking to improve the PP ... but defensively?

While Sharp is off to a nice scoring clip, lets call a spade a spade

He is playing for a team that is pretty sad in a 200ft defensive responsibility scheme and he is playing alongside 2 guys that probably would have finished in the top 5 of the art ross race last year (if seguin played the whole season)

This isnt some rebirth year for Sharp. This is sharp going to a much more wide open offensive system and riding the coattails of two premier offensive players hitting their prime.

Does Sharp produce anywhere near this kind of production away from these two if he is placed on the 2nd unit PP or the second and third lines? Absolutely not
- FourFeathers773

Also take into account the competition they've played so far. If I'm not mistaken they've had the easiest strength of schedule in the West so far this season.

While Sharp is off to a nice scoring clip, lets call a spade a spade

He is playing for a team that is pretty sad in a 200ft defensive responsibility scheme and he is playing alongside 2 guys that probably would have finished in the top 5 of the art ross race last year (if seguin played the whole season)

This isnt some rebirth year for Sharp. This is sharp going to a much more wide open offensive system and riding the coattails of two premier offensive players hitting their prime.

Does Sharp produce anywhere near this kind of production away from these two if he is placed on the 2nd unit PP or the second and third lines? Absolutely not
- FourFeathers773

Probably not, but I'm happy for Sharpie. Unfortunately, he's doing it on a division rival.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/trevor-daley-trade-asking-price-ottawa-senators-defenceman-chicago-blackhawks-second-round-pick/
- PFD_Hawks

They talk with Ottawa a lot. Have never heard of specific interest in Puempel or Prince. Have heard (repeatedly) in the past, they like Wiercioch and Zack Smith

'Fighting Hawks' voted as new North Dakota nickname...

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...a-nickname-164936307.html

I can feel a demonstration by offended falconers forming now.

I think you have overlooked one critically important fact about dealing Daley - the availability of Q's bullpen ace 'The Great Cumiskey'.
- RickJ

Ahh yes, the Great Kaminskey. He's just a phone call away.

'Fighting Hawks' voted as new North Dakota nickname...

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...a-nickname-164936307.html

I can feel a demonstration by offended falconers forming now.
- tredbrta

Tred, what's the new avi, my old eyes can't discern it?

They talk with Ottawa a lot. Have never heard of specific interest in Puempel or Prince. Have heard (repeatedly) in the past, they like Wiercioch and Zack Smith
- John Jaeckel

Zack Smith is terrible this year.

Wiercioch has been scratched a lot lately but I though he might be a target since you have mentioned him before. Puempel was a 1st rounder and can really skate... also has some nasty to his game. I think he may still be waiver protected too.

Trade Kane, right? Value will never be higher! You can only see his face 3 out of 4 times in offensive NHL leaders category http://www.nhl.com/stats/...ers?navid=nav-sts-league#

He will get in trouble again in summer and Front office can't have that image !!


- eyewtkas

I will say it now - if the repeat, then I do believe they look to move him to solve the cap issue.

Tred, what's the new avi, my old eyes can't discern it?
- John Jaeckel

Semper Preparate... translated "always prepare"... Old comrades in my thoughts lately.

Also BTW, both Prince and Puempel are left wings.

Not to pick on you Darth, but here's where this logic is flawed.

Trevor Daley didn't just get promoted form Rochester. This is a guy who has been a pretty good, albeit somewhat one-dimensional, defenseman in the NHL for ten years. Clearly, he is struggling with his role in Chicago and the system expectations.

Why would Holden or player X be any different?

Sure they may/could deal for a guy who will fit right in and go. But evidence suggests it takes time for some guys (Oduya, Daley).

Point being, just "trade Daley" doesn't necessarily solve anything.
- John Jaeckel

Holden was just a cap friendly example, I honestly don't know much about him. My point was more that even if Stan could acquire another d-man that could contribute to Chicago's blue line in the same capacity as Daley (currently) but with a lower cap hit then it would be worth perusing.

I have no issue with Stan continuing to be patient with Daley, I'd like to see if playing with Rozsvial has a positive impact on his game. That being said I am not too hopeful at this point.

I will say it now - if the repeat, then I do believe they look to move him to solve the cap issue.
- powerenforcer

I think they keep at least through 2016-17. Three-peat!

Per Mashinter: Could it be as simple as...Hawks are on a little winning streak and Q doesn't want to upset the apple cart? Q seems to like to ride the wave until forced not to.
- CanOCorn

I think that's it. A tends to ride a line up that wins until they lose or someone really screws up.

According to that tsn article the two LW targets for the Hawks ( one or the other not both plus a 2nd rounder)

: Matt Puempel , LW 6'2 204

: Shane Prince , LW 5'11 185


Anyone know anything about these 2 ? Verynyoung natual LWers . Prefer one to thr other ?

As someone said yesterday. a 5-7 of Svedberg, Gustafsson, and the three-wheeled Jewel shopping cart known as "Rozy"? Yikes.

And Gustafsson might end up being a very, very good player, certainly has some talent. But there is NO SUBSTITUTE for experience, especially on an NHL blue line come playoff time.

Don't get me wrong. I like Gustafsson. But I like him as a #7 on this club this year. The same with Svedberg. Rozy? We don't know how much tread he has left on the tire, or how many lives he has left. Again, he is best cast as a 6-7. Rundblad? Ha.

If you're gonna move Daley out, fine. But you better get a reasonable NHL-experienced NHL blue liner back, either in that deal or by other means.

You CANNOt assume that the top 4, especially minus Oduya, even with the great TVR in it, can duplicate what it did in the last two rounds in the playoffs in 2015.

OR, and I know it's now vogue in the Hawk blogosphere to say Daley is gone, if you are not sure you can fortify that blue lien in the above manner—maybe you keep Daley and keep working out the kinks. Because the Devil you know . . .
- John Jaeckel

Maybe the $3.3M in cap space allows them to bring up Paille (is that still being considered?) and sign Visnovsky or Hejda.

Perhaps Q and Stan have said, "Yikes, Daley can't even produce offense without screwing us over in our own end because he gets trapped in the O-zone when we enters the zone and we cough up the puck. Plus he's a huge liability when we don't win a faceoff in the offensive zone, no matter how hard we try to shelter him with offensive zone starts only..."

"Let's pull the plug and just get old Vis who can at least be good defensively. He can eat as many minutes, help on the PK, and eat some tougher D-zone assignments. That way we can get Keith out there more for O-zone starts."

A 2nd and Puempel would be a nice get for Daley. I wonder what Wiz thinks of Puempel?

If they add a forward for Daley I would expect another trade - forwards going for a D man back possibly.

Daley going is really about cap space and his lag in picking up the defensive game Q demands IMO.
- tredbrta

Don't know much about either of those fowards but doesn't that cause a hole being down a d man? With nhl experience. And do they truely need another foward unless one of them projects as a L1 this year?the 2nd round pick would be nice though

While Sharp is off to a nice scoring clip, lets call a spade a spade

He is playing for a team that is pretty sad in a 200ft defensive responsibility scheme and he is playing alongside 2 guys that probably would have finished in the top 5 of the art ross race last year (if seguin played the whole season)

This isnt some rebirth year for Sharp. This is sharp going to a much more wide open offensive system and riding the coattails of two premier offensive players hitting their prime.

Does Sharp produce anywhere near this kind of production away from these two if he is placed on the 2nd unit PP or the second and third lines? Absolutely not
- FourFeathers773

And he could have ridden the coattails of Hossa and Toews IF Coach Q didn't ask Toews line to play defense.

But Coach Q, crazy guy that he is, thinks that defense is important. Get a load of that guy!

Don't know much about either of those fowards but doesn't that cause a hole being down a d man? With nhl experience. And do they truely need another foward unless one of them projects as a L1 this year?the 2nd round pick would be nice though
- Abadseed

If Stan was looking at one of those LWs I would guess it could be as part of a bigger deal.

Example: Puempel and Wiercioch for Daley and a fringe forward.

Don't know much about either of those fowards but doesn't that cause a hole being down a d man? With nhl experience. And do they truely need another foward unless one of them projects as a L1 this year?the 2nd round pick would be nice though
- Abadseed

As I posted - Daley going does not mean Stan is finished. If they add another forward - particularly a non waiver protected forward - then it wouldn't be surprising if another trade happens and that would probably be for a vet d man who actually plays defense.