someone will will sign Buff to a 6 year deal where they get value for 2 and have an anchor for 4
- Ross77

That's what I am thinking too.
If a team can get him for 4 years at 6mill per, with 7mill the first 2 years and 5mill for the last two, that would be a great deal.

If he wants 6 years, I think that would be a bit of a stretch, plus it depends on which team gives him an offer.

If anything goes, it would be Vinny for Marleau. Both are old, on high salaries, and are obviously declining. Marleau probably will have a hard time with getting the trade he wants because of his high salary, however, if he is traded, Marleau playing with Giroux and Voracek might light something up, but, doesn't Marleau want to be traded to a contender?

Now, Byfuglien would be a great add for the Flyers, however, I am certain that Vinny would have to be on the trading block for that deal to work out (High salary, can provide some offense, which the Jets need), but they will still need to put in a big piece or two to make this work.

However, the trouble with that is trying to resign Byfuglien. Multiple teams (Oilers better be one) are interested in that guy, which they should be, a right shot, defensive hybrid who can play defense and forward (The righty version of Brent Burns to me), therefore Byfuglien should realize that if he goes into FA, there are teams out there that might pay up to 2x what the flyers pay since the flyers have barely any cap space to negotiate.
- EdmHockeyMan

Yikes. Marleau for Lecavalier? Not sure what you are thinking but Lecavalier is 1 point in 7 games. He isn't even good enough to make the lineup of a team struggling to score. He has negative value. Marleau is actually playing well, he isn't the same 32 year old Marleau but he still has value. If Lecavalier is going the other way then so is a gross overpayment. If the deal for Marleau was going to be a top 9 roster player and a 1st then you have to include a top prospect +.

Yikes. Marleau for Lecavalier? Not sure what you are thinking but Lecavalier is 1 point in 7 games. He isn't even good enough to make the lineup of a team struggling to score. He has negative value. Marleau is actually playing well, he isn't the same 32 year old Marleau but he still has value. If Lecavalier is going the other way then so is a gross overpayment. If the deal for Marleau was going to be a top 9 roster player and a 1st then you have to include a top prospect +.
- Steven_Dean

Great comment. I see why you would think that, but Marleau is 36 and his cap hit is a big blunder in any trade. Vinny still has those flashes of brilliance, but it seems that he can never build chemistry with his teammates. Not to mention he is playing 3rd line minutes most of the time. There would probably be a pick and a conditional pick involved, but another player? Unless another big piece is involved.
Don't forget that Giroux and Voracek, especially Voracek (7 points in only 17 games for a guy that will get paid 8mill+ by next year) are struggling to score as well, doesn't mean that they are horrible too. Philly is just having a bad streak.

Great comment. I see why you would think that, but Marleau is 36 and his cap hit is a big blunder in any trade. Vinny still has those flashes of brilliance, but it seems that he can never build chemistry with his teammates. Not to mention he is playing 3rd line minutes most of the time. There would probably be a pick and a conditional pick involved, but another player? Unless another big piece is involved.
Don't forget that Giroux and Voracek, especially Voracek (7 points in only 17 games for a guy that will get paid 8mill+ by next year) are struggling to score as well, doesn't mean that they are horrible too. Philly is just having a bad streak.
- EdmHockeyMan

Yeah. Saw Philly play the Jets two Saturdays ago (start of our current losing streak) - I thought both Giroux and Voracek played well. Couldn't believe the wheels on Giroux.

I feel bad for Philly, just like I've felt bad for the Oilers and Islanders the last few years. Great pieces, but something just isn't gelling.

Yeah. Saw Philly play the Jets two Saturdays ago (start of our current losing streak) - I thought both Giroux and Voracek played well. Couldn't believe the wheels on Giroux.

I feel bad for Philly, just like I've felt bad for the Oilers and Islanders the last few years. Great pieces, but something just isn't gelling.
- RFawkes

Pha-pha-pha Philly and the Jets

Why would the Hurricanes trade away youth?

Learn the difference between your and you're and then maybe I'll lend some credence to YOUR opinion...
- aantny88

no really go on

Great comment. I see why you would think that, but Marleau is 36 and his cap hit is a big blunder in any trade. Vinny still has those flashes of brilliance, but it seems that he can never build chemistry with his teammates. Not to mention he is playing 3rd line minutes most of the time. There would probably be a pick and a conditional pick involved, but another player? Unless another big piece is involved.
Don't forget that Giroux and Voracek, especially Voracek (7 points in only 17 games for a guy that will get paid 8mill+ by next year) are struggling to score as well, doesn't mean that they are horrible too. Philly is just having a bad streak.
- EdmHockeyMan

Voracek is 5th best paid from Flyers.So still 60 + games left to figure out to score like a
8 million man

Pha-pha-pha Philly and the Jets


- eichiefs9

It disappoints me a great deal that the MTS Centre doesn't play Elton when Chiarot's name gets mentioned over the course of a game.

Pha-pha-pha Philly and the Jets


- eichiefs9

Bring back Benny the Jet

And yet ANOTHER Buf rumor ? Are you kidding me ? Just copy and paste the other 100

And yet ANOTHER Buf rumor ? Are you kidding me ? Just copy and paste the other 100
- twpguy

also bring back this weird dude

I'd take Buff as an FA. Flyers can use Buff because they need legit top pair guys. It is perfect for the transition because the young players are not going to start on the top pair. They are going to start on the 3rd. Streit and Buff would be a decent 1st pair, a huge upgrade from Streit and Shultz.... Maybe the Flyers even deal Streit and just keep Buff. The problem is cap space. Unless Vinny retires and RJ or AMac are dealt they shouldn't tie up that space.

According to this site the Flyers have approx 59 mill tied up next season for 11 Forwards, 4 Dmen and 2 goalies

To get Buff would leave the Flyers in a tight spot cap wise.

Yikes. Marleau for Lecavalier? Not sure what you are thinking but Lecavalier is 1 point in 7 games. He isn't even good enough to make the lineup of a team struggling to score. He has negative value. Marleau is actually playing well, he isn't the same 32 year old Marleau but he still has value. If Lecavalier is going the other way then so is a gross overpayment. If the deal for Marleau was going to be a top 9 roster player and a 1st then you have to include a top prospect +.
- Steven_Dean

The problem with Vinny is the system the Flyers play. He does not have the skating ability needed for the Flyers. He could do well elsewhere but he is the kind of guy that needs his linemates to do the heavy lifting. Kindo of like Cheechoo. He'e just have to get in a scoring area and be ready to fire the one timer. Vinny has a great shot and good hands. Problem is his skating.

The problem with Vinny is the system the Flyers play. He does not have the skating ability needed for the Flyers. He could do well elsewhere but he is the kind of guy that needs his linemates to do the heavy lifting. Kindo of like Cheechoo. He'e just have to get in a scoring area and be ready to fire the one timer. Vinny has a great shot and good hands. Problem is his skating.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

True but there are only few teams out there who are able to afford this liability.
And even skating is only one of the issues.
The Schenn incident clearly showed that Vinny does have problems with reading a play
so he is often out of position

The problem with Vinny is the system the Flyers play. He does not have the skating ability needed for the Flyers. He could do well elsewhere but he is the kind of guy that needs his linemates to do the heavy lifting. Kindo of like Cheechoo. He'e just have to get in a scoring area and be ready to fire the one timer. Vinny has a great shot and good hands. Problem is his skating.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

The problem with vinny is father time passed him by a few years ago and he hasnt caught on yet.

The problem with vinny is father time passed him by a few years ago and he hasnt caught on yet.
- jmdodgeser4

This. He's nothing more than a bottom line player anymore. Maybe not even that.

This. He's nothing more than a bottom line player anymore. Maybe not even that.
- jfkst1

the only thing going for the flyers is his salary drops next year.

maybe he can be convinced to go to a budget team; along with the flyers retaining some salary or taking back a less onerous contract.

even then i don't know.

how would you like your hat cooked?

iggy had the chance to sign in Tampa and have a much better shot of winning a Cup, but no, he chose the extremely poorly managed avs...too bad

the only thing going for the flyers is his salary drops next year.

maybe he can be convinced to go to a budget team; along with the flyers retaining some salary or taking back a less onerous contract.

even then i don't know.
- Tumbleweed

i still can't believe the sheer amount of horrid contracts Holmgren handed out. probably the worst cap management since the cap was introduced.

iggy had the chance to sign in Tampa and have a much better shot of winning a Cup, but no, he chose the extremely poorly managed avs...too bad
- S Kaspar Rollins

Maybe Iggy was just a Sakic fan instead of a Yzerman fan. So Avs win

a big part of the flyers issue is puck control, outlets from the dmen to the forwards transitioning from D to O. They constantly lose the zone because of bad keeps by dmen at the point.
-kej83

Wait, Letang plays for the Flyers now???

Marleau would be a good fit for the Islanders.... they need a consistent LW to play with Tavares instead of the constant rotation they tinker with. Plus, they have a lot of depth they can give in return.
- BALUCHA

Is Marleau really all that consistent at this point?

I'd rather take my chances w/ Brock Nelson and/or Anders Lee who each scored more goals than Marleau last season.