he was hit from behind. that the door was open was just bad luck but he shouldn't even be hit there. really bad hit by nino and the league should set an exampel. same thing that not even a minor penalty was called happend in the blues - colu match where lethera got sent to the hospital too. sick of poop like that

http://www.nhl.com/ice/ne...788390&navid=nhl:topheads

there are ofc much better vids than that one but that was how the game was sent
- martox

Ok looks nothing like explanations I've heard.

Firstly, contact on a guy bent over next to the boards?
Second, illegal contact by pushing in the back isn't it?
Third, the gate/door looked closed unless there is a latch that wasn't engaged, but the gate was opened by Maattas body hitting it wasn't it so there should be zero influence by the state of the gate.
Fourth, another contact made that was unnecessary!

If Maatta got concussion out of that hit like Tanger, would the league feel the same way?

Now I agree that the Nidodo (frank)er should be taken out for a week or 2 so he thinks about how clean his record WAS!

Thanks for the link.

the lock for the gate was open cuz the goalie opend it for the incoming players that was gonna change. door open cuz nino was going to change.

the lock for the gate was open cuz the goalie opend it for the incoming players that was gonna change. door open cuz nino was going to change.
- martox

Premeditated - (frank)ers!!!

Nidodo just thought he'd open the door with Maattas head! What a cockhead!

and nino really needs to get suspended just as long as maatta will be gone (lets not kid ourself he will be gone some time). just a completly stupid check from behind.
- martox

Honestly I think that's the only way to get the point across...as much as this sounds like a homer comment I wouldn't care if it was Farnham or whoever on our team that did it, they should be suspended as long as the injured party is out, and the team has to have a shortened bench for how ever long the player is out! Make this crap something to avoid, it's annoying!

Honestly I think that's the only way to get the point across...as much as this sounds like a homer comment I wouldn't care if it was Farnham or whoever on our team that did it, they should be suspended as long as the injured party is out, and the team has to have a shortened bench for how ever long the player is out! Make this crap something to avoid, it's annoying!
- iworkatinitech

Honestly I think that's the only way to get the point across...as much as this sounds like a homer comment I wouldn't care if it was Farnham or whoever on our team that did it, they should be suspended as long as the injured party is out, and the team has to have a shortened bench for how ever long the player is out! Make this crap something to avoid, it's annoying!
- iworkatinitech

Too hard to control.

A player that appears to get injured in a game - Maatta (let's go back a year), the doc says yes needs an op so he's gone for the season. Now the injury in the game could be blamed if if was something similar - eg: thrown into the boards, so how do you tell it's not his pre-existing injury & the game injury was nothing?

Another would be concussion. Tanger gets another one this year that puts him out for a year. Now his pre-existing history would make the injury worse, why should a fresh Doan shove into the boards get him a year as well?

It just doesn't make sense to do that. There should be guidelines for infractions clearly set out & enforced. The NHL at the moment is corrupt - 1 player gets suspended another the exact same incident doesn't get penalised??

Nino is one of my favorite so maybe im just to bias. But he normally doesnt do that. I'm crazy mad at him but its not his game to do that.
- Zac_O

Get another favorite. If he torn his ACL during a game, I wouldn't feel sorry. What he did was thug like.

Honestly it looks like he hit his shoulder and may have re aggravated his injury.

Honestly it looks like he hit his shoulder and may have re aggravated his injury.
- IronCity

They wouldn't escort him off the ice with his arms around his helpers necks if it was his shoulder.

Honestly it looks like he hit his shoulder and may have re aggravated his injury.
- IronCity

mid section and neck. not his shoulder

They wouldn't escort him off the ice with his arms around his helpers necks if it was his shoulder.
- Reverend Killtaker

Agree. As they were carrying him off it looked like he was not putting any weight on his right leg. Two guys under each arm says (to me) it's not a shoulder issue. I'm thinking hip or leg issue.

Get another favorite. If he torn his ACL during a game, I wouldn't feel sorry. What he did was thug like.
- Oneonta Penguin

What he did happens every other game. This time a player just happened to get injured. It was a bad play but it was also equal bad luck. Pens fans get so up in arms about this but were quiet when Neal kneed a guys head.

Honestly I think that's the only way to get the point across...as much as this sounds like a homer comment I wouldn't care if it was Farnham or whoever on our team that did it, they should be suspended as long as the injured party is out, and the team has to have a shortened bench for how ever long the player is out! Make this crap something to avoid, it's annoying!
- iworkatinitech

Problem is plays like that happen all the time without people being injured from it. So the real way to prevent it is punish the ones that don't cause injury so they stop all together. But to start now just because it's a pens player hurt is total bias. We all the NHL isn't a smart enough league to enforce stuff fairly. Or logically for that matter.

Nino is a first time offender so the worst he will get is a game or two with a couple thousand dollar fine.

Problem is plays like that happen all the time without people being injured from it. So the real way to prevent it is punish the ones that don't cause injury so they stop all together. But to start now just because it's a pens player hurt is total bias. We all the NHL isn't a smart enough league to enforce stuff fairly. Or logically for that matter.

Nino is a first time offender so the worst he will get is a game or two with a couple thousand dollar fine.
- Zac_O

I agree here. First time offender that resulted in an injury will be a few games at the most. However, like you said, they can't wait to punish someone only when the outcome is an injury. If someone gets launched into the boards from behind, it should be a 1 game suspension no matter if the player is ok or not. Then keep adding games for repeat offenders.

What a team full of Puss's!!! A shove from behind that caused a serious injury and nobody is mad. Nobody retaliates. Enjoy getting pushed around. Hockey went from a high scoring game with constant excitement to a low scoring game with constant penalties not being called.

I agree here. First time offender that resulted in an injury will be a few games at the most. However, like you said, they can't wait to punish someone only when the outcome is an injury. If someone gets launched into the boards from behind, it should be a 1 game suspension no matter if the player is ok or not. Then keep adding games for repeat offenders.
- drummer829

The only way to do this is the league come out and say it as a warning. So it'd almost have to be in the offseason they do that. But itd be unfair to do it out of no where all of a sudden. For players safety sake I hope they do that in the future.

I agree here. First time offender that resulted in an injury will be a few games at the most. However, like you said, they can't wait to punish someone only when the outcome is an injury. If someone gets launched into the boards from behind, it should be a 1 game suspension no matter if the player is ok or not. Then keep adding games for repeat offenders.
- drummer829

See this is where the problem is...ramping up suspensions is not the way to go. Okay fine let's let this one go because it's a Penguin, whatever I'm talking big picture here...so the next hit like this, whether there's an injury or not (so long as it's a true check from behind/boarding and not a dive) should have that player thrown out for a year. The point being make the punishment so egregious that no player will want to have to deal with it, and no team will want to have to deal with it either.

Simply put I don't care who it is, but someone needs to be a whipping boy and it should have to wait for a repeat offender (like a Neal type player who shouldn't be in the league for his bush league antics). Too many injuries to good players with skill for what reason?

What a team full of Puss's!!! A shove from behind that caused a serious injury and nobody is mad. Nobody retaliates. Enjoy getting pushed around. Hockey went from a high scoring game with constant excitement to a low scoring game with constant penalties not being called.
- lloyd095

What were they supposed to do? Go full attack on him and draw a penalty that could make them lose the game? Winning is always the first objective to the games played in the NHL. Teams that let emotion get the better of them are the teams that lose close games from bad penalties. The pens play in Minnesota Dec 26. Maybe they'll do something then. As long as they don't make a dirty play or draw a bad penalty I'll be fine with it. But its not really needed. Half bad play half bad luck.

See this is where the problem is...ramping up suspensions is not the way to go. Okay fine let's let this one go because it's a Penguin, whatever I'm talking big picture here...so the next hit like this, whether there's an injury or not (so long as it's a true check from behind/boarding and not a dive) should have that player thrown out for a year. The point being make the punishment so egregious that no player will want to have to deal with it, and no team will want to have to deal with it either.

Simply put I don't care who it is, but someone needs to be a whipping boy and it should have to wait for a repeat offender (like a Neal type player who shouldn't be in the league for his bush league antics). Too many injuries to good players with skill for what reason?
- iworkatinitech

For the year? Way to harsh of a punishment. But yes the player regardless of who it is should be punished immediately regardless of injuries. Make it 1 game for first time offenders and move it up for repeat offenders. But make the fine higher than it has been in the past. Thatll hurt them more. Thats what will make them think twice.

For the year? Way to harsh of a punishment. But yes the player regardless of who it is should be punished immediately regardless of injuries. Make it 1 game for first time offenders and move it up for repeat offenders. But make the fine higher than it has been in the past. Thatll hurt them more. Thats what will make them think twice.
- Zac_O

I was expecting a response on the time period but think about it, if there is an injury generally speaking its for months at a clip, so the team effected by the play is potentially harmed that long for doing nothing...also if you make it 10 games, so what how many times do you see guys suspended that long and then turn around and 5 games later do it again. Also it's a way to keep player who generally don't play dirty to think twice before they board someone...just my way of thinking. Minimal penalties are not worth the paper they're written on. Also any fines levied on these players are so trivial when you look at what they make in a year so fines are worthless as far as I'm concerned.

What were they supposed to do? Go full attack on him and draw a penalty that could make them lose the game? Winning is always the first objective to the games played in the NHL. Teams that let emotion get the better of them are the teams that lose close games from bad penalties. The pens play in Minnesota Dec 26. Maybe they'll do something then. As long as they don't make a dirty play or draw a bad penalty I'll be fine with it. But its not really needed. Half bad play half bad luck.
- Zac_O

Sometimes you have to stand up for your team regardless of consequences. In hockey when this happened a guy knew he had to answer. The refs knew too. They would be matching 5's in the old day. If not who cares.

Guy Boucher was fired yesterday....


I really wouldnt mind Boucher. I would prefer him over HCMJ but Sullivan would still be my top choice.

What were they supposed to do? Go full attack on him and draw a penalty that could make them lose the game? Winning is always the first objective to the games played in the NHL. Teams that let emotion get the better of them are the teams that lose close games from bad penalties. The pens play in Minnesota Dec 26. Maybe they'll do something then. As long as they don't make a dirty play or draw a bad penalty I'll be fine with it. But its not really needed. Half bad play half bad luck.
- Zac_O

That is what they ended up doing anyways. Cole half-assedly slashed Nino behind the play and took a penalty, then Spurgeon scored on that power play. Might as well at least get your money's worth other than some pathetic slash.

That is what they ended up doing anyways. Cole half-assedly slashed Nino behind the play and took a penalty, then Spurgeon scored on that power play. Might as well at least get your money's worth other than some pathetic slash.
- PensFan1103

Yes because they knew the refs were going to call that weak slashing penalty so they should have drawn a penalty right away. Come on man. Did you think when typing that or just hurry up and do it?

Sometimes you have to stand up for your team regardless of consequences. In hockey when this happened a guy knew he had to answer. The refs knew too. They would be matching 5's in the old day. If not who cares.
- lloyd095

Nino doesn't fight often and it'd be smart of him not to in this situation as well. So they would have just risked the game. At the end of the day the win is what the team is there to get. Lets be happy they did.